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legendary
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April 21, 2022, 07:01:11 PM
It seems scripted to me, who will go to Sauna and take a video from there knowing that its prohibited, either Casimero is too greedy to lose the weight, or really don’t want to fight Butler, guess what Sultan are more ready to take over.

Lol, mate. Can you even explain what's the advantage for Casimero to make that scripted?

Casimero is trolling but didn't realize what they doing is already a violation. Ignorance of the law excuses no one.

Anyway, since this is a thread for Inoue and Donaire let’s focus on this. This should not be just like a circus match, Donaire and Inoue are more professional and I’m confident that there will be no delay experience between these two boxer, many are already looking forward for this.


What do you mean that this fight should not be a circus match?

If ever there will be a delay, it's more about technical issues and not really because either of the boxers is trolling with each other.

But that topic should not be speculated here because a delay won't likely to happened as I don't see any reason for that to happen.
legendary
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April 21, 2022, 06:29:03 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
It seems scripted to me, who will go to Sauna and take a video from there knowing that its prohibited, either Casimero is too greedy to lose the weight, or really don’t want to fight Butler, guess what Sultan are more ready to take over.

Anyway, since this is a thread for Inoue and Donaire let’s focus on this. This should not be just like a circus match, Donaire and Inoue are more professional and I’m confident that there will be no delay experience between these two boxer, many are already looking forward for this.
This is a rare one, few days before the match and yet Casimero still able to get away from it by violating the rules, why there’s a video and even uploaded it online knowing that its not allowed and consider as a form of cheating as well? He’s too careless and I hope that Donaire will not do the same mistake since they are both under one management team, Inoue is a big fight for him better not to waste it.

This is what Casimero regret for the whole of his life and he's team is so dumb for releasing that video, they shouldn't do that since the fight is so near. I don't know if they really read the contract or they are just lazy to miss it that's why they have a video doing that violation. I'm sure this will not happen to Donaire since this guy is more discipline and focus compare to Casimero.

Provably Casimero's fans now are so disappointed to him for what he do.
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April 21, 2022, 06:17:42 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
It seems scripted to me, who will go to Sauna and take a video from there knowing that its prohibited, either Casimero is too greedy to lose the weight, or really don’t want to fight Butler, guess what Sultan are more ready to take over.

Anyway, since this is a thread for Inoue and Donaire let’s focus on this. This should not be just like a circus match, Donaire and Inoue are more professional and I’m confident that there will be no delay experience between these two boxer, many are already looking forward for this.
This is a rare one, few days before the match and yet Casimero still able to get away from it by violating the rules, why there’s a video and even uploaded it online knowing that its not allowed and consider as a form of cheating as well? He’s too careless and I hope that Donaire will not do the same mistake since they are both under one management team, Inoue is a big fight for him better not to waste it.
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April 21, 2022, 06:13:37 PM

You are absolutely right, for me Donaire is on another level, however with everything that has happened not only here in the forum is the best predicted for him, in social networks, on twitter, in some forums that have to do with sports favor him, and also like you, I'm surprised about CASIMERO, it's actually the hardest news that boxing can bear for now.

Don't be surprise with that, there was a rumor already before that Casimero is having a hard time reducing his weight, so that is maybe the reason why they are doing everything just to pass the weight, and the bad thing is that they violate the rules.
It's kinda hard for the side of casimero cause they are expecting to much that casimero's fight against butler will happen but in reality, it won't. But a good thing here is that another Filipino boxer replaced him to fight against butler and that is sultan.
In the case of donaire and inoue the favored here is donaire and hoping Too that he will win and claim the belt
legendary
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April 21, 2022, 05:37:45 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
Although this is all about Inoue and Donaire's thread. Still, there's sort of connection to these two and Casimero. Yes, all of those trainings, time, money and effort has been wasted.
I didn't dig the whole issue about it but I've understood that it just ended into vain and he surely don't like the result of it. You can think of it, how long you've been training well and all the sacrifices made and then he won't be the one to box?
He might also lose the chance to fight Inoue in the future, such a problematic situation and the unfocused boxer, that is a bad result for him. Well, with Inoue vs Donaire match I just hope that it will push through as well since a lot of things can happen before the match, and hopefully they all know the rules and will follow it accordingly. Can’t wait to see them again, I’m pretty sure its worth the wait after so many talks about this.
Speaking on the situation on where Casimero is experiencing then this is actually a rare case scenario which its impossible that for someone who dont able to abide with the rules and you rarely see this thing honestly

which do shows that they are really that too careless which it do really ended up something like this.He might not able to fight Inoue or the ones who do win on this upcoming fight with Donaire.
If he would retain that kind of behavior and set up then it would be affecting him that big.In talks about Donaire and Inoue then this guy had a chance on having a revenge
if he do able to patch up those flaw that he had on first encounter.
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April 21, 2022, 05:28:35 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
It seems scripted to me, who will go to Sauna and take a video from there knowing that its prohibited, either Casimero is too greedy to lose the weight, or really don’t want to fight Butler, guess what Sultan are more ready to take over.

Anyway, since this is a thread for Inoue and Donaire let’s focus on this. This should not be just like a circus match, Donaire and Inoue are more professional and I’m confident that there will be no delay experience between these two boxer, many are already looking forward for this.
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April 21, 2022, 05:19:44 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
Although this is all about Inoue and Donaire's thread. Still, there's sort of connection to these two and Casimero. Yes, all of those trainings, time, money and effort has been wasted.
I didn't dig the whole issue about it but I've understood that it just ended into vain and he surely don't like the result of it. You can think of it, how long you've been training well and all the sacrifices made and then he won't be the one to box?
He might also lose the chance to fight Inoue in the future, such a problematic situation and the unfocused boxer, that is a bad result for him. Well, with Inoue vs Donaire match I just hope that it will push through as well since a lot of things can happen before the match, and hopefully they all know the rules and will follow it accordingly. Can’t wait to see them again, I’m pretty sure its worth the wait after so many talks about this.
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April 21, 2022, 03:32:58 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
Although this is all about Inoue and Donaire's thread. Still, there's sort of connection to these two and Casimero. Yes, all of those trainings, time, money and effort has been wasted.
I didn't dig the whole issue about it but I've understood that it just ended into vain and he surely don't like the result of it. You can think of it, how long you've been training well and all the sacrifices made and then he won't be the one to box?

The fault is on his side. He was given the chance, and he blown it up.

Whatever the reason, the lapses will continue to point at him. Now he will need to go back from the scratch instead of fighting
butler and if he wins, he just need to wait for this upcoming fight between Inoue and Donaire and have his share to challenge the
winner since he still has his belt. Missed opportunities and every hard work will end up to nothing. Casimero's camp needs to
learn from this and if they will proceed chasing another shot, they should not allow to let the same mistake to happen again.
This would indeed be a lesson learned for them considering on how many times they had missed out or make a fight postponed due to those lapses which might affect his career if they do make it severe

on next time.They shouldnt really be that too confident nor that careless when it comes on arranging up things and it seems that they dont really care that much and trying to follow on whats
the proper requirement or some sort.It is really just right for it to be blamed on Casimeros team on why they had ended up like this.
legendary
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April 21, 2022, 03:08:22 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
Although this is all about Inoue and Donaire's thread. Still, there's sort of connection to these two and Casimero. Yes, all of those trainings, time, money and effort has been wasted.
I didn't dig the whole issue about it but I've understood that it just ended into vain and he surely don't like the result of it. You can think of it, how long you've been training well and all the sacrifices made and then he won't be the one to box?

The fault is on his side. He was given the chance, and he blown it up.

Whatever the reason, the lapses will continue to point at him. Now he will need to go back from the scratch instead of fighting
butler and if he wins, he just need to wait for this upcoming fight between Inoue and Donaire and have his share to challenge the
winner since he still has his belt. Missed opportunities and every hard work will end up to nothing. Casimero's camp needs to
learn from this and if they will proceed chasing another shot, they should not allow to let the same mistake to happen again.
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April 21, 2022, 01:40:45 PM

I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.

I think because of his actual behavior why these boxing associations are red-tagging him and now he losses his chance to prove that he will be the right boxer to fight Inoue in his prime. Once the WBO strips him of his title, that's a game over for him and he needs to start from the beginning again to acquire another belt and to hope that he will be given the opportunity to fight Inoue. rather than being the bully guy which is not really right for a pro boxer, why he won't just stay humble to ask Inoue for a fight like Manny Pacquiao did with his fast opponents back then.
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April 21, 2022, 01:11:14 PM
I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
Although this is all about Inoue and Donaire's thread. Still, there's sort of connection to these two and Casimero. Yes, all of those trainings, time, money and effort has been wasted.
I didn't dig the whole issue about it but I've understood that it just ended into vain and he surely don't like the result of it. You can think of it, how long you've been training well and all the sacrifices made and then he won't be the one to box?
legendary
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April 21, 2022, 12:47:07 PM
The odds doesn't change that much, Donaire is still 4:1 underdog.
I think for underdog bettors this is really a good odds assuming that Donaire can still fight and has the power and the timing to counter Inoue when he is going inside just like in the first fight. Donaire though will need to have a lot of stamina against the young Inoue to be able to sustain his attack the whole 12 rounds because this is what I'm seeing in this fight. Back and forth war throughout 12.

The only chances i can see for Donaire to get the win is to either control the early rounds or knock Inoue down even once and then calm down and just defend on the late rounds. I mean Donaire's style of play tends to be aggressive on the early round and then gas out on the later round, causing his punches became weak.
Inoue is known to have a destructive punches, if Donaire gas out on the later round he'll most probably gonna make that as an advantage.

But it's hard to see Donaire knocking out Inoue early, Inoue has also a good defense and a solid chin and I would say that he has a good boxing IQ as well. Donaire for sure can be aggressive in the early rounds, but he can't just cruise late in the rounds. He still has to give everything he got because Inoue has a good stamina because obviously he is the younger of the two. For me, the key for Donaire is to uses his counterpunch as his main weapon and make Inoue makes mistakes instead of looking for a early knock out.
Yes, I agree! I think that's more effective than just getting aggressive in the first few rounds with the hopes that Donaire could knockout the monster of Japan because it's really not that simple and easy considering Inoue's defensive capabilities to withstand strong punches also I know that Inoue is smart enough to watch out for that counterpunch but why not, right? It's worth taking that risk because stamina-wise, Donaire cannot keep up with Inoue about that.
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April 21, 2022, 09:23:28 AM
If it remain on that odd then that's good for most Donaire fan bettors.

What everyone is thinking about the victory of Donaire and just settles the odds but it's two birds with one stone then. Speaking of boxing, the other match of another fighter, Casimero has just surprised a lot of us.

And he's not going to have his match anymore but he'll be replaced due to an issue that we don't know if they're aware of.

You are absolutely right, for me Donaire is on another level, however with everything that has happened not only here in the forum is the best predicted for him, in social networks, on twitter, in some forums that have to do with sports favor him, and also like you, I'm surprised about CASIMERO, it's actually the hardest news that boxing can bear for now.
It is.

All of the time we've been counting for him and for a long wait, after all of those words he's said that he's about to fight Inoue and then it has been stopped by the WBO for him to fight his challenger, Butler.

And to this, well, that lot of time has been put into dismay. Because it were all positive then to this.
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April 20, 2022, 11:51:47 PM

You are absolutely right, for me Donaire is on another level, however with everything that has happened not only here in the forum is the best predicted for him, in social networks, on twitter, in some forums that have to do with sports favor him, and also like you, I'm surprised about CASIMERO, it's actually the hardest news that boxing can bear for now.

Don't be surprise with that, there was a rumor already before that Casimero is having a hard time reducing his weight, so that is maybe the reason why they are doing everything just to pass the weight, and the bad thing is that they violate the rules.

I really thought that the rumor is not true, but with the news coming out, the rumor seemed to be coming from a legit source, and look what is happening now. Casimero will lose the opportunity to fight Butler, all the trainings and everything they did just to keep him at shape is now wasted.
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April 20, 2022, 11:34:24 PM

You are absolutely right, for me Donaire is on another level, however with everything that has happened not only here in the forum is the best predicted for him, in social networks, on twitter, in some forums that have to do with sports favor him, and also like you, I'm surprised about CASIMERO, it's actually the hardest news that boxing can bear for now.

Don't be surprise with that, there was a rumor already before that Casimero is having a hard time reducing his weight, so that is maybe the reason why they are doing everything just to pass the weight, and the bad thing is that they violate the rules.
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April 20, 2022, 10:49:10 PM
I will cut your discussion guys about age issues and like to discuss this interesting topic.

If you guys noticed on the last fight of Donaire against a much younger like over 10+ years of age and in its prime, we saw the speed of Donaire doing some multiple jabs at the same time while connecting some strong punch as a combination. What Donaire did is, he just continue with that strategy until Gaballo feels the pain in his body then eventually he can't handle it anymore and goes down.

That strategy of Donaire requires a big amount of stamina and yet he managed to do it even already not in his prime. That shows us that an active boxer will defy his age. That strategy can work against Inoue but the amount of stamina should be doubled or tripled because after all, Naoya Inoue is on a different level and the most dangerous boxer currently at 117.

Well, if Donaire has a growth in body resistance and strength, it is likely that many things can happen, what happens is that only worrying about the resistance of his body in boxing is good, but in the last rounds, and to achieve that level of performance has to have a very very strong training, something that his body behaves like an oak, however, Inoue cannot be taken as the weak or the youngest boxer with less experience, he must know the physical strength of Donaire, and if Inoue applies intelligence he has to be looking for the ideal strategy to take advantage of Donaire's strength to make it his weakness, that's the way I see Inoue.


The odds doesn't change that much, Donaire is still 4:1 underdog.
I think for underdog bettors this is really a good odds assuming that Donaire can still fight and has the power and the timing to counter Inoue when he is going inside just like in the first fight. Donaire though will need to have a lot of stamina against the young Inoue to be able to sustain his attack the whole 12 rounds because this is what I'm seeing in this fight. Back and forth war throughout 12.
Yes, it's a good take for us Donaire fans.

But I'm still assuming that as the match closes to the date, the odds will have its change a lot. Well, we're still far from their match so if there's not that much change, it's okay.

We might see it happen maybe by the first week of the month for their match or 1 week before their match. The big change in odds is likely to begin.

It could be, but I'm not seeing a huge swing in favor of Donaire, might remain at that odds as we approaches the fight.

Nevertheless, as Filipinos and who support our fighters, the odds is already tempting and attractive. A few sats here and there won't make any difference, but at least if Donaire wins by a long shot, we are all going to celebrate as well.
If it remain on that odd then that's good for most Donaire fan bettors.

What everyone is thinking about the victory of Donaire and just settles the odds but it's two birds with one stone then. Speaking of boxing, the other match of another fighter, Casimero has just surprised a lot of us.

And he's not going to have his match anymore but he'll be replaced due to an issue that we don't know if they're aware of.

You are absolutely right, for me Donaire is on another level, however with everything that has happened not only here in the forum is the best predicted for him, in social networks, on twitter, in some forums that have to do with sports favor him, and also like you, I'm surprised about CASIMERO, it's actually the hardest news that boxing can bear for now.
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April 20, 2022, 06:36:26 PM
The odds doesn't change that much, Donaire is still 4:1 underdog.
I think for underdog bettors this is really a good odds assuming that Donaire can still fight and has the power and the timing to counter Inoue when he is going inside just like in the first fight. Donaire though will need to have a lot of stamina against the young Inoue to be able to sustain his attack the whole 12 rounds because this is what I'm seeing in this fight. Back and forth war throughout 12.
Yes, it's a good take for us Donaire fans.

But I'm still assuming that as the match closes to the date, the odds will have its change a lot. Well, we're still far from their match so if there's not that much change, it's okay.

We might see it happen maybe by the first week of the month for their match or 1 week before their match. The big change in odds is likely to begin.

It could be, but I'm not seeing a huge swing in favor of Donaire, might remain at that odds as we approaches the fight.

Nevertheless, as Filipinos and who support our fighters, the odds is already tempting and attractive. A few sats here and there won't make any difference, but at least if Donaire wins by a long shot, we are all going to celebrate as well.
If it remain on that odd then that's good for most Donaire fan bettors.

What everyone is thinking about the victory of Donaire and just settles the odds but it's two birds with one stone then. Speaking of boxing, the other match of another fighter, Casimero has just surprised a lot of us.

And he's not going to have his match anymore but he'll be replaced due to an issue that we don't know if they're aware of.
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April 20, 2022, 04:53:19 PM
The odds doesn't change that much, Donaire is still 4:1 underdog.
I think for underdog bettors this is really a good odds assuming that Donaire can still fight and has the power and the timing to counter Inoue when he is going inside just like in the first fight. Donaire though will need to have a lot of stamina against the young Inoue to be able to sustain his attack the whole 12 rounds because this is what I'm seeing in this fight. Back and forth war throughout 12.

The only chances i can see for Donaire to get the win is to either control the early rounds or knock Inoue down even once and then calm down and just defend on the late rounds. I mean Donaire's style of play tends to be aggressive on the early round and then gas out on the later round, causing his punches became weak.
Inoue is known to have a destructive punches, if Donaire gas out on the later round he'll most probably gonna make that as an advantage.

But it's hard to see Donaire knocking out Inoue early, Inoue has also a good defense and a solid chin and I would say that he has a good boxing IQ as well. Donaire for sure can be aggressive in the early rounds, but he can't just cruise late in the rounds. He still has to give everything he got because Inoue has a good stamina because obviously he is the younger of the two. For me, the key for Donaire is to uses his counterpunch as his main weapon and make Inoue makes mistakes instead of looking for a early knock out.
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April 20, 2022, 03:50:21 PM
The odds doesn't change that much, Donaire is still 4:1 underdog.
I think for underdog bettors this is really a good odds assuming that Donaire can still fight and has the power and the timing to counter Inoue when he is going inside just like in the first fight. Donaire though will need to have a lot of stamina against the young Inoue to be able to sustain his attack the whole 12 rounds because this is what I'm seeing in this fight. Back and forth war throughout 12.

The only chances i can see for Donaire to get the win is to either control the early rounds or knock Inoue down even once and then calm down and just defend on the late rounds. I mean Donaire's style of play tends to be aggressive on the early round and then gas out on the later round, causing his punches became weak.
Inoue is known to have a destructive punches, if Donaire gas out on the later round he'll most probably gonna make that as an advantage.
We had already see on how Donaire had gas out on later rounds which is something noticeable and because of that you would really be likely to lower up your guard most of the time or you arent already on your tempo

thats why solid body shots could be on the way which would really be taking you down if you arent that attentive but well at least he had able to finish out it for 12 rounds but we know that he do fall short.
IF he do able to overcome that weakness then he might be having the chance, tending to knock Inoue for early rounds? I would see that this would really be that hard to achieve.,
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April 20, 2022, 09:59:24 AM
The odds doesn't change that much, Donaire is still 4:1 underdog.
I think for underdog bettors this is really a good odds assuming that Donaire can still fight and has the power and the timing to counter Inoue when he is going inside just like in the first fight. Donaire though will need to have a lot of stamina against the young Inoue to be able to sustain his attack the whole 12 rounds because this is what I'm seeing in this fight. Back and forth war throughout 12.

The only chances i can see for Donaire to get the win is to either control the early rounds or knock Inoue down even once and then calm down and just defend on the late rounds. I mean Donaire's style of play tends to be aggressive on the early round and then gas out on the later round, causing his punches became weak.
Inoue is known to have a destructive punches, if Donaire gas out on the later round he'll most probably gonna make that as an advantage.

That's a good analyzation you got there mate! Yes, I believe that Donaire will try to go aggressive in the early rounds and try to take down Inoue as fast as he can before his gas runs out because throwing strong consecutive punches can really take a huge gas in Donaire's tank so it's best to make that punches count and that could really hurt Inoue as that's his only choice because if he cannot make it until the 6th to 8th round then I'm afraid Inoue will take over the fight.
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