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Topic: Inputs.io | Instant Payments, Offchain API, Secure Wallet, 235k+ BTC transferred - page 24. (Read 158131 times)

member
Activity: 71
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Yes I got most of my coins back but I just deposited yesterday, I should get all of what was remaining from the deposit not most. If I had known there was a problem I never would have deposited.

Also the partial refund is still unconfirmed more than an hour later. Is that a problem?
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000

Please don't, although if you deposited very recently you should get 100%. It'll be handled on a case by case basis, specify that in the email.

TAT, I have fund in coinlender from BTCINVEST partial liquidation 2013-10-31 01:22:40.
This is after the hacking, I expect to receive 100% plus the remaining liquidation, right?
I already sent email information. Fyi. Thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 644
Merit: 250
@TradeFortress I had ~0.08 0.09 btc on two wallets, it isn't much(yet!) but I really don't understand "only >1 deposit refund policy", looks like a lot of smaller pockets refunding some big pockets... because those first cannot harm you here?
This is because the mass majority of users had less than 1 BTC and he can pocket the majority of the funds.

Btw about a month ago, I caught TradeFortress systematically scamming the Ripple Faucet @ RippleGiveaway.com and had to ban him.  His thievery seems to be habitual.

Once someone shows you who they are, believe them.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT
Guys, please stay calm, TF did partial refund which pirates won't do.. Lets just wait for TF to come out with a solution...

A solution that benefits him in the biggest way possible right?  Cheesy

Wait...  Cheesy
full member
Activity: 131
Merit: 100
old user name chris3spice
Just received most of what I had deposited on October 27th, the day after the hack was discovered.  It wasn't a lot of coin, but it was to me, and I salute TF's efforts.  Immediate responsiveness, contrasted with Roman/bitfloor.

As I have said in another thread, while I am angry at how this happened, I am not accusing TF of being a scammer.  I've always told my kids that making a mess is regrettable, but leaving it is really bad.  TF seems to be trying to clean up. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I remain hopeful at this time that I won't lose the larger amount in Coinlenders.

I mostly agree with this assessment.  TF is honest and will do the best he can.  His reputation up to this point has been very good.  

I'm always amazed by how quickly the cynicism surfaces and the accusations fly at the first sign of something going wrong.

Because you weren't here when Pirateat40, GLBSE, Bitcoinica, & Alberto happened. I'd be cynical too...
I was here for Pirateat40 and GLBSE, never touched Bitcoinica and I've actually never known about Alberto...

I'd still like to keep a little faith though, I know scams do happen and I know big ones do happen, I'm not saying this is or is not a scam its just the only person to know 100% is TF and you're either going to believe him or not and we've seen both sides posting. We can speculate and raise evidence all we want but we will never know 100% unless someone can get undeniable proof, not just well its TOO CONVENIENT that this happened and based on past people and blah blah blah...
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Guys, please stay calm, TF did partial refund which pirates won't do.. Lets just wait for TF to come out with a solution...
member
Activity: 71
Merit: 10
Just received most of what I had deposited on October 27th, the day after the hack was discovered.  It wasn't a lot of coin, but it was to me, and I salute TF's efforts.  Immediate responsiveness, contrasted with Roman/bitfloor.

As I have said in another thread, while I am angry at how this happened, I am not accusing TF of being a scammer.  I've always told my kids that making a mess is regrettable, but leaving it is really bad.  TF seems to be trying to clean up. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I remain hopeful at this time that I won't lose the larger amount in Coinlenders.

I mostly agree with this assessment.  TF is honest and will do the best he can.  His reputation up to this point has been very good.  

I'm always amazed by how quickly the cynicism surfaces and the accusations fly at the first sign of something going wrong.

Something going wrong in this case equals over 1 million dollars worth of bitcoin being left accessible online... Oh you know, nothing to worry about - bloody cynics.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT
I've just received a refund as well. He really is doing his best from what it seems. There will always be speculation as to what happened and what is happening. That's life. What is apparent now are his actions which are forthcoming and outright. It's hard to deal with the cynicism on these forums sometimes which may be why he's just doing business on a case by case basis outside of these forums.

Of course he can pay back the coins... He's the one that stole them  Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
I've just received a refund as well. He really is doing his best from what it seems. There will always be speculation as to what happened and what is happening. That's life. What is apparent now are his actions which are forthcoming and outright. It's hard to deal with the cynicism on these forums sometimes which may be why he's just doing business on a case by case basis outside of these forums.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT
I vote for a Scammer tag for TradeFortress and can we just outright call the FBI this time?

I mean pirate eventually got caught by the Federal Reserve I dunno why we didn't just call them from the start?  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
When will TF be importing his offline wallet to pay back all his customers.

Why does the person who failed get to keep his coins when everyone else loses?
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Just received most of what I had deposited on October 27th, the day after the hack was discovered.  It wasn't a lot of coin, but it was to me, and I salute TF's efforts.  Immediate responsiveness, contrasted with Roman/bitfloor.

As I have said in another thread, while I am angry at how this happened, I am not accusing TF of being a scammer.  I've always told my kids that making a mess is regrettable, but leaving it is really bad.  TF seems to be trying to clean up. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I remain hopeful at this time that I won't lose the larger amount in Coinlenders.

I mostly agree with this assessment.  TF is honest and will do the best he can.  His reputation up to this point has been very good.  

I'm always amazed by how quickly the cynicism surfaces and the accusations fly at the first sign of something going wrong.

Because you weren't here when Pirateat40, GLBSE, Bitcoinica, & Alberto happened. I'd be cynical too...
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT
I have many problems with this.

  • "We" refers to one person, am I correct?
  • Why were deposits and withdrawal not disabled?
  • If the hack occurred in October, how is it possible API keys were compromised in November and money was stolen?
  • Why was the "hot pocket" not immediately emptied after the hack?
1. No. Inputs.io isn't just me, although I do the majority of the work.
2. They were in limited capacity. A withdrawal amount limit didn't work as people simply broke up.
3. The hacker dumped API keys and PIN from the DB. API keys (re)generated after the hack haven't being stolen.
4. The attacker didn't take all of the BTCs, perhaps wanting to remain undetected and steal more.

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I don't understand how people who made deposits to inputs (then onto coinlenders) well after the attack are out money.

The amount has been withdrawn in full by other users. There was a limit designed to prevent much of that, but it was per transaction and people got around it.

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And allowed people to continue to deposit, as I did??


Please don't, although if you deposited very recently you should get 100%. It'll be handled on a case by case basis, specify that in the email.

Wait so YOU decided when you were Inside Jobbing it up to leave a bunch unstolen?
sr. member
Activity: 388
Merit: 250
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Just received most of what I had deposited on October 27th, the day after the hack was discovered.  It wasn't a lot of coin, but it was to me, and I salute TF's efforts.  Immediate responsiveness, contrasted with Roman/bitfloor.

As I have said in another thread, while I am angry at how this happened, I am not accusing TF of being a scammer.  I've always told my kids that making a mess is regrettable, but leaving it is really bad.  TF seems to be trying to clean up. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I remain hopeful at this time that I won't lose the larger amount in Coinlenders.

I mostly agree with this assessment.  TF is honest and will do the best he can.  His reputation up to this point has been very good.  

I'm always amazed by how quickly the cynicism surfaces and the accusations fly at the first sign of something going wrong.

I agree with this 100% - i just hope i can get the coins back i deposited this afternoon.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1029
Just received most of what I had deposited on October 27th, the day after the hack was discovered.  It wasn't a lot of coin, but it was to me, and I salute TF's efforts.  Immediate responsiveness, contrasted with Roman/bitfloor.

As I have said in another thread, while I am angry at how this happened, I am not accusing TF of being a scammer.  I've always told my kids that making a mess is regrettable, but leaving it is really bad.  TF seems to be trying to clean up. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I remain hopeful at this time that I won't lose the larger amount in Coinlenders.

I mostly agree with this assessment.  TF is honest and will do the best he can.  His reputation up to this point has been very good.  

I'm always amazed by how quickly the cynicism surfaces and the accusations fly at the first sign of something going wrong.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
This is pirate 2.0 I SWEAR pirate must be so proud of TF.
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
@TradeFortress I had ~0.08 0.09 btc on two wallets, it isn't much(yet!) but I really don't understand "only >1 deposit refund policy", looks like a lot of smaller pockets refunding some big pockets... because those first cannot harm you here?
EDIT: paid
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1029
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Fourth richest fictional character
@goat business opportunity. We start a web wallet, give it 3 months when the balance is about ~$5-10million or more. I can do a better job, I make sure the server catches fire, the datacenter's fire system will happen to be off that day for testing Wink. NO backups we pay 30% to people and buy a ferrari and island. Lets do it. Cause all these people are still wanting inputs to come back.


Make sure you have a good cover story. Wink

1. Server caught fire.
2. A thief broke in and stole the servers.
3. Hackers did this....
4. Hackers did that....
5. A hacker kidnapped me at gunpoint and made me give him the password. Don't worry about me, I am fine now! He only got away with...

Rinse and repeat.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
@goat business opportunity. We start a web wallet, give it 3 months when the balance is about ~$5-10million or more. I can do a better job, I make sure the server catches fire, the datacenter's fire system will happen to be off that day for testing Wink. NO backups we pay 30% to people and buy a ferrari and island. Lets do it. Cause all these people are still wanting inputs to come back.
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