Topic: Intervention Theory: An alternative to Darwinism and Creationism - page 3. (Read 9423 times)

You chose to live in squalor. As I said before, you were wearing a hair shirt. Big difference.

You did it that one day you might be able to impress impressionable minds with your tales of triumph in the face of adversity.

In the UK we call it "slumming" it. Its a common practice among young students from privileged backgrounds, that, like yourself, can't quite come to terms with their own privilege.

They, like yourself, are utterly ridiculous - and are generally a laughing stock when not surrounded by likeminded delusional young imbeciles.

I lived in absolute squalor in the Philippines. And had not enough food to eat. I had at one point, not even $1 to travel or do anything about my situation.

Like all the leftists, you can only lie to justify your evil.

You would not likely survive what I endured. If you think you are man enough, come here now and we will go live in squalor together and let's see which of us dies first.

You are all talk. No walk.


How rough? Did you eat only once a day? Did you get eaten by mosquitoes constantly? Did you every week have severe bouts of diarrhea and gastroenteritis due to unsanitary conditions?

(note I am not saying that others didn't have worse suffering than me, yet my suffering was severe)

TLDR, I am in poor health. Black kids used to touch my hair when I was small - and my neighbour 3 doors down once had worms.

Do you know how I know that you are a privileged prick ? You seem totally unaware that the opportunities that you were given were at the expense of others that couldn't afford those same opportunities.

Now me, I did have it rough - but then, my experience has led me to question (in adult life) the disparity in wealth, power and opportunity that exists.
And that, I would suggest, is the normal response of someone that has come from humble origins.

Tell your mouth to stop writing cheques - they are going to bounce all day long 

It is fact. Those who know my life, know I have suffered extreme poverty.

And they know I am suffering extremely bad health now. And I don't avail of health insurance nor socialized health care.

You leftists are corrupt and evil. You are the scum of the earth. You will destroy yourselves.


I am precisely that. I was moved to 12 schools before I even graduated high school. I lived in inner city Baton Rouge where my sister and I were the only white kids in the entire school. My neighbors had ringworm.

But that wasn't the worst poverty I endured. The worst was living in squalor in the Philippines without even food.

And from that squalor I programmed Art-O-Matic and CoolPage and then rose from poverty to earn as much as $350,000 in a single year (inflation adjusted that is $millions). But now I am back to poverty again (because I am too generous, because I chose to live with the poor, and because I lost my health making it difficult to work!).

I lost an eye because of living in such poverty.

And I have lost my digestive health from all the gastro infections and mosquito born illnesses.

STFU.

(luckily I have never lived in a war zone)


Corrupt armchair bigot. You've never experienced reality. Reading that indoctrination propaganda won't teach you about life.

We can't change the fact that politics is a power vacuum. All you leftists accomplish is feeding more power to that corruption. You don't accomplish redistribution of wealth. Subtract the debt levels and you can see this is true even in the Western world today. You delude yourselves.

No - you haven't. That is bullshit, and you know it. At best, you once wore a hair shirt.  You are exagerrating because you have to. Otherwise you would have to confess to your privilege and the whole house of cards will come crashing down. You are lying to protect your privilege. Your mouth is writing cheques that your head has no way of cashing. You don't embody the American Dream - the boy from the streets made good through drive, determination and raw talent. You represent, rather, all that is wrong with the US - privilege and vested interest feathering their own nests by peddling pseudo meritocratic libertarian bollocks to the masses.

I have suffered extreme poverty at a level that you could probably not survive. It was not pleasant. I am daily suffering the after effects of those experiences due to destroyed health from it.

You are going to have a very difficult time defending your jealous, selfish, corruptness against someone like myself who has at times walked with (nearly) nothing as Jesus said to do.

Leftists are religious bigots.


Ivanka Trump is the leftist in the Trump family and then her own ilk attack her. Lol. Retards.

You need to do some more reading on political economy and sociology. You need to do more reading on the banking crisis, social mobility and US foreign policy. I know what you are trying to drive at but what you have written here is absolute drivel that could only ever have come from the keyboard of a privileged knob who has never had to struggle.
You can appeal to (IQ) authority as much as you want but when you start referring to me as evil, and a virus to be wiped out, you are clearly showing that whatever limited intelligence you yourself are in possession of has been completely subsumed by the illness that is your own character.

So, now we have ''second God'', Aliens?
Who created Aliens, than?
Again, you come back to the same point, to choice between Darwinism or Creationism
Everything comes to the same basic question, How did the universe begin?
Big Bang or God's intervention?
Aliens are created beings, the same as human, so they can't be ultimate answer.

Intervention Theory sounds plausible to me. So about 250,000 years ago Aliens altered the DNA of our ancestors the neanderthals and then created us. I think they advanced our DNA development and maybe spliced some of theirs into ours. They clearly knew what they were doing. They made a race of workers that work themselves to death.

"billions of fossils " lol  ))  BTW how accurate is radiocarbon rating ? )
I'm not sure if crude oil is formed from fosills What about Titan ( moon of Saturn) There are large reserve of hydrocarbons (there was  the largest colony of dinosaurs LOL!! ) What about abiogenic oil?
Moloch do you live on Earth  or? )) lol...
"There is zero evidence that any god or alien intervened at any point in history" )) How do you know everything? !! lol

You make my day!!! )

btw, Moloch, Merry Christmas!!! 

CoinCube, this is the way I felt about when you quoted me out-of-context and tried to "prod" me into a more moralistic perspective:


Leftists already disrespect me, because I refuse their bankrupt, corrupt, retarded, violent, horrific ideology. Thus respecting them won't gain any of us anything.

As Armstrong predicted long ago, the USA will breakup along religious values demarcation. The leftists are one religion and the free market conservatives will unify around christian-like religions. Religious wars will be very prominent over the next two decades.

I don't know where those of us anarchists who are more conservative about not moralizing, will fit in to this. We are like the Jews, but even more so. We choose to defect entirely, not just from nation-states. As Jesus said, walk with nothing and from town to town with nothing.

CoinCube wants to build society. That is why he favors strong moral discipline. Groupwise organization requires some top-down control. I don't entirely disagree. I see the point of it.

The salient distinction is that the free market by definition means no top-down edicts are directing the outcome, rather the Invisible Hand of opportunity costs are. Free markets anneal to the NATURAL LAW economics of nature. Whereas, top-down edicts do not anneal and become megadeath because of non-intended outcomes. For example, the 57 million who starved in Communist China, because of the top-down management of agriculture. The AGW proponents are trying to achieve a similar megadeath through corrupt top-down governance.




Top-down governance is corrupted also. The leftist's preferred system is just as exploitative as any natural power-law or exponential distribution of wealth. Because giving power to representatives is a power vacuum and thus will always be victors to the most corruptible. The 160 IQ Eric Raymond explained this well:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics)



The unequal distribution of wealth is a fact of nature. There is nothing you can anyone can do about this, other than improving technology so that everyone's standard of living is lifted. The following references are taken from my whitepaper for a new altcoin project I am working on:

J. Doyne Farmer, John Geanakoplos. Power laws in economics and elsewhere. Chapter from a preliminary draft of a book called “Beyond equilibrium and efficiency”, §4.1 Summary of empirical evidence for power laws, p. 15, May 14, 2008.
Adrian A. Dragulescu, Victor M. Yakovenko. Exponential and power-law probability distributions of wealth and income in the United Kingdom and the United States. Physica A 299, pp. 213–221, proceedings of NATO workshop Applications of Physics in Economic Modeling, Prague, Feb 2001.
Adrian A. Dragulescu, Victor M. Yakovenko. Statistical Mechanics of Money, Income, and Wealth: A Short Survey. Modeling of Complex Systems: Seventh Granada Lectures, AIP Conference Proceedings 661, pp. 180-183, Sep 2, 2002.
Victor M. Yakovenko, J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.. Colloquium: Statistical mechanics of money, wealth, and income. Rev. Mod. Phys. 81(4), 1703, Dec 2, 2009.
Jean-Philippe Bouchard. Power-laws and Scaling in Finance: Empirical Evidence and Simple Models. Conference on Fractals 2002, Emergent Nature: Patterns, Growth and Scaling in the Sciences, pp. 157–171, Mar 17, 2002.
Xavier Gabaix. Power Laws in Economics: An Introduction. Journal of Economic Perspectives 30(1) pp. 185–206, §What Causes Power Laws?, Winter 2016.
Thomas Lux. Financial Power Laws: Empirical Evidence, Models, and Mechanism. Power Laws in the Social Sciences: Discovering Complexity and Non-Equilibrium Dynamics in the Social Universe, §IV. Multi-Agent Models in Behavioral Finance, 2006.


Also the extreme excesses in concentration of wealth are not due to the free market, but are due to the top-down political corruption that the leftists advocate. The solution the leftists advocate is the poison that gives them the reason to advocate their "solution". It is a vicious cycle of ignorance, akin to a dog chasing his tail.

It is quite sad to see such retarded humans destroy themselves and civilization along with it. Repeatedly.



You retards never learn to stop chasing your tail. It is sad. I see you leftists as a cancer and a virus, that I need to inoculate from my life.

CoinCube won't approve of my language, but I use this language because you leftists are evil and violent and the "soft glove" approach doesn't register in your corrupt minds. You need to be told what you really are bluntly and frankly. And moreover, because you always talking so highly of your ethics and you belittle (very condescending tone!) the ethics of the free market proponents, so I just want to put the mirror in your face.

The gross inequality is a natural result of elites who could not care less about those living in subhuman conditions.

The latest example of hypocritical elites is the FAKE charitable foundation run by Hillary Clinton; I am convinced that her election loss was sealed once voters realized that she had been saying one thing and doing another while taking boatloads of people's hard-earned money during the 2010 Haiti earthquake.

The 1% are a globalized force to be recokoned with; they have set up their tax haven strongholds and it seems that the people lack the political strength to force their hand. When OWS brought up the "Tobin Tax", it was a breath of fresh air, but unfortunately I have not heard any new ideas from the Left since then and I think that it will be hard to restrict freedom in the future.
Without the free market you would not have any way to empower yourself whatsoever. A lot of self-healing must be done before one can heal the planet.

A free market in charities is a good idea mainly but I am open to better ideas from the Left way of thinking. For example, the Tobin Tax is a fair way of correcting many injustices but how can it be administered without corruption? The elites are so sick and corrupt that they hid a child pornography ring in the basement of UNICEF!

What is needed is for each one to be responsible and empowered. The easiest solution is obviously to become wealthy yourself. There is a free market in ideas and these ideas are what is powerful. Once you understand wealth mechanics then it is your responsibility to teach and mentor people into wealth, then you will have immense power just like the elites.

Do not Libertarians, or right wing free market advocates have a set of values ? Of course they do.
Why are they, then, left off the hook when it comes to imposing these values on those that don't share them, over the "leftists" ?
If an ideology is an idea system used to maintain an exploitative domination, then from where I'm sat, the free market ideology has by far created the greatest amount of inequality and stifled life chances on the world as a whole .
 
1% own half this world.

But the ideas that legitimate this gross inequality are somehow OK because ......?? Or are their ideas somehow exempt from tyrannical abuse purely because they are the ones writing the rule books and history ?
Doesn't make any sense.

BADecker I have three comments:

1) The status of the Messiah or the Talmud could be debated I suppose on theological grounds from an Islamic or Jewish perspective but I have the neither the knowledge, desire, nor the qualifications to do so.

2) As you mentioned the Hebrew nation often broke with the laws of the O.T.  If one chooses to view the Talmud as another such breach there is no actual need to hypothesize some sinister infiltration. The Hebrew nation has show itself perfectly capable of leading itself astray on multiple occasions.

3) If we operate from the premise that your most recent post is absolute truth that does not invalidate my prior arguments which as far as I can tell are not falsified by what you just wrote.    

  

The Old Testament is, in part, a history of the Hebrew nation. These people were not Jews, in general, until starting at the times shortly before the time of the Dead Sea Scrolls - around 400 B.C.

The Old Testament history shows that the Hebrew people seldom followed the laws of the O.T. for very long. Often they were the greatest breaker of the O.T. laws, more than the other nations of the world.

The reason the Hebrew nation still exists in and under the current Jewish nation, is that God has always had mercy on them.

The Jews are made up of groups of people who infiltrated the Hebrew nation and led them astray from the laws of God. In part, the Jews are from lines of ancient Babylonians. The Talmud is from the Babylonian captivity, is NOT the law of God, and should be kept on a lower level, away from the Torah and the Tanakh.



The term "Christian" covers two broad groups of people. There are those who are Christians for political (informal political) reasons. Then there are those who are Christians because they believe in the salvation of God... Jesus salvation.

All people die. Only those who believe in Jesus salvation are assured of good things, good outcomes. These people even gain much good from God here, in this life.

Jesus is the Messiah of the Old Testament. The Hebrew people, at the prompting of the Jews, rejected the Messiah when they rejected Jesus. It is only through God's remembrance of His promise to Abraham that the Jewish/Hebrew nation exists at all physically.

A time will come, and is coming now, when the Hebrew people will formally turn to God, almost en masse. When that happens, Jesus will return at their call.

While talking with my mother she was doing baby talk with a cute chihuahua in the grocery store. I remarked, "mom, all those 100s of dogs you have rescued, they are all your grandchildren". My mom replied, "yes I have empty nest syndrome and the dogs are all my kids".

Females are engineered for bearing children and nurturing. Some westerners have turned to animals as children (note I also love animals and my mother was raised on a farm so there is a reason we love animals in our family). I remember once in 1996 when I couldn't afford to buy milk for my infant son and I was only eating rice and beans, I asked my mother if I could borrow $100. That was when I was developing Art-O-Matic (the precursor to CoolPage which ended up making me wealthy by 1999). She said she didn't have the money, but later I learned she had spent $1500 for hip surgery for her dog. (Note she didn't know I had a son, I had told her I couldn't eat). My mother has helped me (even recently at her advanced age) so please don't take it as my mother being entirely callous.

My parents weren't happy that I had gone off the jungle. (Yet isn't that exactly what my Dad did when I was 5 years old, leaving us and my mother to go live in Belize with his 2nd wife).

Any way, I don't blame my parents for what are my own responsibilities and decisions in life.

My point herein is that society functions normally when females are bearing children.

P.S. when I was agreeing with my mother about all the great accomplishments of the liberals since the 1960s, I added "abortion" to my list including women's rights, feminism, birth control, etc.. My mother wasn't too happy about abortion being touted. I presume she remembers me advising my sister to abort her only child in 2001 because the father was a pyscho drug addict (who ended up murdering my sister by 2006). But I have always regretted giving that advice. Why? Because mother's instinct would have saved my sister's life! Huge mistake I made. But the liberals educated me with that thinking. And they were wrong! Dead wrong!

I had a 1 hour "Merry Christmas" conversation with my mother and all was going well until I explained that AGW is a farce (we got off on that tangent because I mentioned that Trump might help the immigration of my relatives and my mother said "if the country survives Trump" and I told her not to worry because the liberals would probably win the next Presidential election). My mom explained the reason she believes in social justice because she said in her lifetime we have proof it works. She said we in the Deep South saw the end of racism against blacks. I am even old enough to remember how much discrimination against blacks has improved in the Deep South. So I agreed with her on that point. She was aghast that her son wouldn't care about the environment we leave to our offspring. She said she only has maybe at most 20 more years remaining in her life, thus the meaning of her existence is all tied into leftism. She was ready to hang up the phone in a bad mood, and I told her, "mom I do care about the environment, but environment is not climate.". She said she didn't understand that distinction but we ended up on a happy ending because she was relieved that I do care about the environment.

So that is an example of both my quote above and also why leftists can destroy society because of their own ignorant social justice. It is true that humans can impact the environment, but they can't impact the long-term climate.

I quote another example from Martin Armstrong:

This is inaccurate. The reality is that all current and historic societies embrace collectivism. Thus as time progresses we increasing lionize and reward all sorts of human leaches. This collective error eventually weakens and destroys human societies.

The Jews when strictly following the the guidance in the Old Testament/Torah sit outside the collectivism and are thus not destroyed by it. In doing so the Jews create a stable evolutionary structure which is why they are still here and have a nation despite multiple historic events that should have shattered them as a people.

Although I disagree with some of his language iamnotback laid out the basic argument correctly upthread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17222888

In theory Christians should have similarly good outcomes if they also strictly follow their religious traditions.