Topic: Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation. - page 2. (Read 933 times)

I would argue that even self-mod threads that Ratimov cleaned out should be restored and locked, if that's not done already.

Not to mention that we've had people banned for less, whereas he's not getting even a slap on the wrist so that's kinda screwed up as far as disincentives to fuck with forum privileges.

I'm pretty sure this is a translation issue, and he must have meant his post history.

Cool! So Guest R20231030 is Ratimov's new name

I checked this list, and those topics have been restored:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34.
That includes some of my own (Merited) posts in topics that weren't self-moderated, and Ratimov indeed should indeed not have any power over those.

I didn't realize until now that also Mods deleted topics with other users' posts. That's quite a big mistake.

Thank you for coming to this thread, theymos.

If I am allowed, I would also add a few questions, as it follows:

1. Isn't this statement contradicting itself?


How could it be no misconduct, since it was incorrect to delete those topics? What is a misconduct then, if not taking incorrect decisions?

2. Since Ratimov was turning his old topics into garbage on purpose, then he moved his trash in the Russian local board, thus breaking forum rule no. 1 multiple times in a row, being very aware of what he is doing, why was he not banned for that? This question was addressed also by LV, but no answer has been provided so far:


3. Since even Xal0lex started thinking that what Ratimov does is fishy, why did not he asked other mods for a ban, since he is unable to issue bans? Again, this question was also asked by LV and it was never been answered:


4. Why none of xandry and Xal0lex answered to questions, 3. and 4., although they were asked repeatedly?

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Thank you for restoring them.

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Small question here (addressed to xandry):


If Halab and LV believe it was easy to find those topics, then why xandry thinks it was very difficult? It doesn't add up.

Furthermore: how can xandry (which is just a mod, so not an admin) could check Ratimov's messages history?


I believed this was something only admins can do.

I read all the posts and waited for a reply by you. My thoughts were you may have been tricked by mr r.

I just check the post after yours and its from mr t. his conclusion was exactly what I thought may have happened.

Hoping that mr r lets us know why he does what he does. as it put you in a shitty spot for sure.

I see no evidence of misconduct, though it was incorrect to delete topics with substantial replies. All of the deleted topics with replies have been restored to Archival.


This didn't happen. In all of Ratmov's deleted topics, only 3 replies were deleted by moderators in the last 2 years, and none of these deletions were by xandry or Xal0lex.

If you go to the root of the Russian section, you will see a list of topics at the bottom. So I saw two trash topics in this list. Naturally, I deleted them. And then I decided to go through the whole list and found a lot of such topics. Again, I deleted several topics. And then I realized that something was wrong and that it looked very suspicious, so I didn't touch those topics anymore.

Even easier: Search topics. You can quickly find the very short topic titles, nicely kept in Archival.

I'm going to dare to answer you and make a wild guess and I hope that I will not get dragged into this tsunami of shit, but Xal0lex probably used the "Show the last topics started by this person" function.

Of course. I follow the situation and see lots of personal involvement of some users in all that. And I didn't want to be involved in those personal vendettas. But those vendettas are tending to grow unfortunately.

I don't know why did Ratimov delete posts in his topics and crashed some other topics and I hardly can support this way of dealing with forum, but a statement that he did it "to cover up his past and current evil activities" was not proved. All those topics are still available in different archives including ninjastic.space and loyce.club, so if there is anything compromising it should not be so hard to show that. But as for now I see only a statement about that based on an old discussion about plagiarism held several years ago which had no consequences then. And then basing on that statement which has no proofs moderators of Russian board are blamed in that they are sock-puppets because they are doing their job on cleaning the forum.

I already showed that at least one your statement is totally wrong, there was no situation when "Moderators delete the reported posts because now these posts are irrelevant in the discussion". You made an assumption and blamed someone, not trying to check if your suspicion is true.

I can say that I saw some cases when dozens of posts of some users were deleted and those users were not banned for incorrect behavior. If it is a personal case for you, it doesn't mean that it should be the same for others. If you'd asked why wasn't a user banned for that, it could be expected, but you preferred to blame moderators for doing a good job.

I see many assumptions in the topic and very few facts. If you want to convince me, I want to see provable facts. Exact links to the topics on ninjastic.space with explanation why are they compromising, with additional links on proofs etc, so everyone could check it and be sure that it is so. And showing that deleting those topics hides some important information to show why are you blaming moderators for their job.