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Quote from: lordoliver on May 12, 2017, 05:33:43 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 10, 2017, 10:45:36 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 10, 2017, 09:29:23 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 09:32:19 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

so no 2.2 ok

hm... I tried it now 2 times with 2.1.1 and it went through but was pending for a long time. I replayed and rebroadcasted without success. I have now 4 transfers pending nothing confirmed... so sure, that I don't need an open port?

Network topology is very poor at the moment for a number of reasons. It's recommended that you replay unconfirmed transactions after every hour or two that they remain unconfirmed. This is a transient state of the network, so be sure to educate yourself on the reasons if you're interested. If not, then just wait a certain amount of time for the network variables to change.

still trying to replay. 14 pending transfers showing already...
I hope this will work before the deadline...

Have you tried spamming after replaying? It worked very well for me.

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I think that these problems are solved with the new client version. I read in the slackchannel, that the tests go very well.Maybe its better if you wait few days of the new one.

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Quote from: GeSh on May 10, 2017, 10:45:36 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 10, 2017, 09:29:23 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 09:32:19 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

so no 2.2 ok

hm... I tried it now 2 times with 2.1.1 and it went through but was pending for a long time. I replayed and rebroadcasted without success. I have now 4 transfers pending nothing confirmed... so sure, that I don't need an open port?

Network topology is very poor at the moment for a number of reasons. It's recommended that you replay unconfirmed transactions after every hour or two that they remain unconfirmed. This is a transient state of the network, so be sure to educate yourself on the reasons if you're interested. If not, then just wait a certain amount of time for the network variables to change.

still trying to replay. 14 pending transfers showing already...
I hope this will work before the deadline...

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Quote from: LBX on May 11, 2017, 07:53:05 PM

How to buy?
Are there exchanges?
How much price?

http://iotaexchange.com/#details
http://iotaprice.com/

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Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 10:29:00 PM

Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Others are in the same situation as you.

There are a few people who have neglected to properly claim, although this becomes a smaller number every day. Nearly everyone has been able to claim properly. We're talking well over 90%

Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Unlike the "4 months" that David claims people had, people who DID follow the first claim process got an email 2 weeks before the launch. So people had 2 weeks, not 4 months. For some reason, this email went out 10 days after the information was already in the forum, not sure why.

Don't choose to participate in a project that actively encourages engagement, and then complain about claiming windows on the order of weeks in your proposed scenario.

Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Now David aka Iotatoken makes guilty people for missing 2 week window after the patiently waited for a long time. He think anyone not technical is a pleb and beneath him. So unprofessional. He ignores people messages and never responds. He should not be a face of IOTA if he is so degrading. People may never get the IOTA they are owed while David and his buddies sell tokens on OTC.

This abomination of a forum is not the medium in which to interact with the IOTA team. Email the official IOTA team, join the slack and request help, or join the IOTA forum and do the same. It takes just a modicum of effort.

Yes iota slack many discuss. better than bct
many infos plus trading

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A

How to buy?
Are there exchanges?
How much price?

GeSh

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Quote from: Marcel Beliveau on May 11, 2017, 04:29:06 PM

Hello,

1/

When there is snapshotting, it means that the core team propose a new "tangle file".

Is there any routine to check the conformity of the new tangle with the old one ?

I wonder if it would be possible someone propose a fake snapshotting.

In the future, each node will theoretically snapshot whenever they need to without relying on trust of a third party. Perma nodes will always be available for traversal of the entire history of the Tangle if necessary for certain on chain projects.

Quote from: Marcel Beliveau on May 11, 2017, 04:29:06 PM

2/

With IOTA, there is no incentive to hold a full node ?

There is no direct financial incentive, you are correct. This is the same as Bitcoin. However the indirect incentive for running a node is to 1) not have to connect your light client to someone else's host and be at the mercy of their node remaining online, and 2) support the distributed nature of the network, without which the underlying currency that you hold is worthless.

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Hello,

1/

When there is snapshotting, it means that the core team propose a new "tangle file".

Is there any routine to check the conformity of the new tangle with the old one ?

I wonder if it would be possible someone propose a fake snapshotting.

2/

With IOTA, there is no incentive to hold a full node ?

3/
Just my opinion, no one evolution of bitcoin will happen. it's too big for evolution. It will stay a currency to save capital. The price will incease with time....until IOTA comes.

Marcel

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Quote from: MadCow on May 10, 2017, 06:51:27 PM

Is there a tangle explorer for IOTA to search address balances?

To check balances of IOTA addresses visit the following link.

http://iota.cool/

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Is there a tangle explorer for IOTA to search address balances?

GeSh

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 10, 2017, 11:01:40 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 10, 2017, 10:45:36 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 10, 2017, 09:29:23 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 09:32:19 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

so no 2.2 ok

hm... I tried it now 2 times with 2.1.1 and it went through but was pending for a long time. I replayed and rebroadcasted without success. I have now 4 transfers pending nothing confirmed... so sure, that I don't need an open port?

Network topology is very poor at the moment for a number of reasons. It's recommended that you replay unconfirmed transactions after every hour or two that they remain unconfirmed. This is a transient state of the network, so be sure to educate yourself on the reasons if you're interested. If not, then just wait a certain amount of time for the network variables to change.

Can you elaborate them briefly here?
Will replaying it a few times after each other also help?

Sure, but try to do further reading for a better understanding.
Reasons for slow network:
Poor topology - The #1 most important thing to understand about IOTA is that it's a complete paradigm shift from what you're used to. When node neighborhoods are shoddy, poorly kept up with, and poorly connected, it's very difficult to get transactions humming. This is exacerbated when the entire network is just a handful of full nodes, as it is right now. One of the biggest fixes for this problem is simply organic growth of the network.

Very few transactions - Every transaction sent requires two others to validate it before being confirmed. When there are 2 transactions per minute, waiting for 2 validators can take a very long time. Again, paradigm shift! As the network contains more and more transactions, confirmation times go down while network capacity increases. The worst these things will ever be is right now. Fix: organic growth leading to increased number of transactions per minute.

There might be a few other more technical reasons for slow network right now, but the above two are the most important to understand in the context of a forum like this.

http://iotasupport.com/whatisiota.shtml
Read over this for a general introduction

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Quote from: GeSh on May 10, 2017, 10:45:36 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 10, 2017, 09:29:23 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 09:32:19 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

so no 2.2 ok

hm... I tried it now 2 times with 2.1.1 and it went through but was pending for a long time. I replayed and rebroadcasted without success. I have now 4 transfers pending nothing confirmed... so sure, that I don't need an open port?

Network topology is very poor at the moment for a number of reasons. It's recommended that you replay unconfirmed transactions after every hour or two that they remain unconfirmed. This is a transient state of the network, so be sure to educate yourself on the reasons if you're interested. If not, then just wait a certain amount of time for the network variables to change.

Can you elaborate them briefly here?
Will replaying it a few times after each other also help?

GeSh

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 10, 2017, 09:29:23 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 09:32:19 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

so no 2.2 ok

hm... I tried it now 2 times with 2.1.1 and it went through but was pending for a long time. I replayed and rebroadcasted without success. I have now 4 transfers pending nothing confirmed... so sure, that I don't need an open port?

Network topology is very poor at the moment for a number of reasons. It's recommended that you replay unconfirmed transactions after every hour or two that they remain unconfirmed. This is a transient state of the network, so be sure to educate yourself on the reasons if you're interested. If not, then just wait a certain amount of time for the network variables to change.

lordoliver

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 09:32:19 AM

Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

so no 2.2 ok

hm... I tried it now 2 times with 2.1.1 and it went through but was pending for a long time. I replayed and rebroadcasted without success. I have now 4 transfers pending nothing confirmed... so sure, that I don't need an open port?

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Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Quote from: patrickus on May 07, 2017, 04:15:44 PM

Quote from: iotatoken on May 07, 2017, 03:23:05 PM

Quote from: cloverme on May 07, 2017, 09:39:26 AM

I will say that they don't make it easy and there were lots of bumps along the way, but I did get my IOTA to show up again. Get on the IOTA slack and someone will help you eventually, but you have to have a lot, and I mean a lot of patience with IOTA. That being said, I wouldn't say they've stolen any crypto from anyone.

I want everyone to try to contemplate how IOTA would look if the number one priority was to help people who didn't bother to claim in time and do hands on daily tutoring rather than actually create the technology... It is *us* not *you* who has to have an insane amount of patience with people who didn't bother to follow the right procedures in the first 4 months and thus ended up costing us tens of hours of manual work that could've been much better spent on doing productive things.

ok I understand that but:

1) I was not aware of the need to convert the iotas again to a new address (re-claim). (There is no information letter)

2) This conversion process seems not easy to do (you write "tens of hours of manual work") I did not know that.

ok I apologize for having used the word dishonest to qualify the iota team.

What is the process to make this conversion ? Can I do it myself ?

Others are in the same situation as you. Unlike the "4 months" that David claims people had, people who DID follow the first claim process got an email 2 weeks before the launch. So people had 2 weeks, not 4 months. For some reason, this email went out 10 days after the information was already in the forum, not sure why.

Now David aka Iotatoken makes guilty people for missing 2 week window after the patiently waited for a long time. He think anyone not technical is a pleb and beneath him. So unprofessional. He ignores people messages and never responds. He should not be a face of IOTA if he is so degrading. People may never get the IOTA they are owed while David and his buddies sell tokens on OTC.

you got your parties muddled up. participating in a high tech project like IOTA is NOT the same as booking a guided tour in Disneyland or a caribbean cruise.
in a caribbean cruise, you can expect to be catered for each and every whim your sorry ass can come up with, and you can complain if the linen is not fresh every day and if the Margerita pitcher remains empty for more than 5 minutes.

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Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Others are in the same situation as you.

There are a few people who have neglected to properly claim, although this becomes a smaller number every day. Nearly everyone has been able to claim properly. We're talking well over 90%

Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Unlike the "4 months" that David claims people had, people who DID follow the first claim process got an email 2 weeks before the launch. So people had 2 weeks, not 4 months. For some reason, this email went out 10 days after the information was already in the forum, not sure why.

Don't choose to participate in a project that actively encourages engagement, and then complain about claiming windows on the order of weeks in your proposed scenario.

Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Now David aka Iotatoken makes guilty people for missing 2 week window after the patiently waited for a long time. He think anyone not technical is a pleb and beneath him. So unprofessional. He ignores people messages and never responds. He should not be a face of IOTA if he is so degrading. People may never get the IOTA they are owed while David and his buddies sell tokens on OTC.

This abomination of a forum is not the medium in which to interact with the IOTA team. Email the official IOTA team, join the slack and request help, or join the IOTA forum and do the same. It takes just a modicum of effort.

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Quote from: SoMuchDerp on May 09, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

Quote from: patrickus on May 07, 2017, 04:15:44 PM

Quote from: iotatoken on May 07, 2017, 03:23:05 PM

Quote from: cloverme on May 07, 2017, 09:39:26 AM

I will say that they don't make it easy and there were lots of bumps along the way, but I did get my IOTA to show up again. Get on the IOTA slack and someone will help you eventually, but you have to have a lot, and I mean a lot of patience with IOTA. That being said, I wouldn't say they've stolen any crypto from anyone.

I want everyone to try to contemplate how IOTA would look if the number one priority was to help people who didn't bother to claim in time and do hands on daily tutoring rather than actually create the technology... It is *us* not *you* who has to have an insane amount of patience with people who didn't bother to follow the right procedures in the first 4 months and thus ended up costing us tens of hours of manual work that could've been much better spent on doing productive things.

ok I understand that but:

1) I was not aware of the need to convert the iotas again to a new address (re-claim). (There is no information letter)

2) This conversion process seems not easy to do (you write "tens of hours of manual work") I did not know that.

ok I apologize for having used the word dishonest to qualify the iota team.

What is the process to make this conversion ? Can I do it myself ?

Others are in the same situation as you. Unlike the "4 months" that David claims people had, people who DID follow the first claim process got an email 2 weeks before the launch. So people had 2 weeks, not 4 months. For some reason, this email went out 10 days after the information was already in the forum, not sure why.

Now David aka Iotatoken makes guilty people for missing 2 week window after the patiently waited for a long time. He think anyone not technical is a pleb and beneath him. So unprofessional. He ignores people messages and never responds. He should not be a face of IOTA if he is so degrading. People may never get the IOTA they are owed while David and his buddies sell tokens on OTC.

You're so full of shit I can't even grasp how you even exist. Are you pretending that you couldn't claim in those 4 months because of...magic? I haven't sold a single iota thus far, consider your life. You're a waste.

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Quote from: patrickus on May 07, 2017, 04:15:44 PM

Quote from: iotatoken on May 07, 2017, 03:23:05 PM

Quote from: cloverme on May 07, 2017, 09:39:26 AM

I will say that they don't make it easy and there were lots of bumps along the way, but I did get my IOTA to show up again. Get on the IOTA slack and someone will help you eventually, but you have to have a lot, and I mean a lot of patience with IOTA. That being said, I wouldn't say they've stolen any crypto from anyone.

I want everyone to try to contemplate how IOTA would look if the number one priority was to help people who didn't bother to claim in time and do hands on daily tutoring rather than actually create the technology... It is *us* not *you* who has to have an insane amount of patience with people who didn't bother to follow the right procedures in the first 4 months and thus ended up costing us tens of hours of manual work that could've been much better spent on doing productive things.

ok I understand that but:

1) I was not aware of the need to convert the iotas again to a new address (re-claim). (There is no information letter)

2) This conversion process seems not easy to do (you write "tens of hours of manual work") I did not know that.

ok I apologize for having used the word dishonest to qualify the iota team.

What is the process to make this conversion ? Can I do it myself ?

Others are in the same situation as you. Unlike the "4 months" that David claims people had, people who DID follow the first claim process got an email 2 weeks before the launch. So people had 2 weeks, not 4 months. For some reason, this email went out 10 days after the information was already in the forum, not sure why.

Now David aka Iotatoken makes guilty people for missing 2 week window after the patiently waited for a long time. He think anyone not technical is a pleb and beneath him. So unprofessional. He ignores people messages and never responds. He should not be a face of IOTA if he is so degrading. People may never get the IOTA they are owed while David and his buddies sell tokens on OTC.

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Quote from: GeSh on May 09, 2017, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

so no 2.2 ok

GeSh

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 09, 2017, 07:50:37 AM

Does the computer have to have an open input port for claiming? I thought it should work withouth, because its a light wallet...
I did last night and there was no confirmation after the whole night, so I guess because of the port?

Make sure you're using 2.1.1

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