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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 05, 2016, 04:46:56 PM

It's still good for me. I do focus switch while coding (this improves productivity) and these trolls help me because I don't need to put much effort into replies to them.

Whatever bitterness, hate and fud is spread there. please take it as a hint to improve the public apperance. I am aware what david said about why there is no usable version of jiniri, no documentation, and no website etc.. It doesn't matter if you can improve the archictecture etc. No one cares about when the chip is out that it's much more powerful, but even with a simple basic instruction set you can gain intretested tech people. And you have some software ready when it happens.

Weren't you the one who complained about missing engagement?

Some days ago david mentioned the ternary math library that was supported by Jinn labs. Why is there no developers blog where to mention such things? Google will not find it there in the muddy water of the ryver (sorry, i don't like this tool).

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Quote from: sparta_cuss on February 05, 2016, 06:32:35 PM

Quote from: rtrtcrypto on February 05, 2016, 05:32:04 PM

Not to mention that CFB is not actually 24, lol Roll Eyes

Yeah, well, maybe not, but he USED to be! So, point made.

Do you know how old Vitalik Buterin was when he started coding Ethereum?

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Quote from: charvesp on February 05, 2016, 06:53:02 PM

I believe that dude was referring to David as 24. Although I have no idea if he really is. Doesn't look it to me.
But yea, I'm pretty sure he's referring to David not CFB. Just saying.

Obviously (I hope) I am not arguing that we should launch a beta with serious core errors. I am not intending to sell anyway.

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Quote from: rtrtcrypto on February 05, 2016, 04:41:40 PM

Don't even sweat this stuff... the ICO/IPO is over and the tech will either come or it won't. A thread by some random person with some random, almost non-coherent, rant(s) is not worth the time.

Everyone said the same stuff about NXT, how it was "going to be attacked right away", how it was "impossible to secure PoS" and that the "N@S" attack was trivial to execute and blablabla... and the protocol is still there.

Iota might fail, who knows, but it won't be because "CFB is 24" or because "intel has 3 billion a year on R&D", etc... and it won't fail or succeed based on some random thread on this forum.

Quote from: yassin54 on February 05, 2016, 03:44:28 PM

Just relayed information check this Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.0;topicseen

Totally agree, this guy didn't catch on in time so now he is bashing IOTA.

I think the 'cfb is 24' is a non argument: people in their 20's tend to create their best work. For the argument that JINN/IOTA can't compete with a 3 billion a year R&D company: Look at Von Koenigsegg who build the worlds fastest car with a much smaller budget as the competition.

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I believe that dude was referring to David as 24. Although I have no idea if he really is. Doesn't look it to me.
But yea, I'm pretty sure he's referring to David not CFB. Just saying.

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Quote from: rtrtcrypto on February 05, 2016, 05:32:04 PM

Not to mention that CFB is not actually 24, lol Roll Eyes

Yeah, well, maybe not, but he USED to be! So, point made.

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Not to mention that CFB is not actually 24, lol Roll Eyes

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Quote from: rtrtcrypto on February 05, 2016, 04:41:40 PM

Don't even sweat this stuff... the ICO/IPO is over and the tech will either come or it won't. A thread by some random person with some random, almost non-coherent, rant(s) is not worth the time.

It's still good for me. I do focus switch while coding (this improves productivity) and these trolls help me because I don't need to put much effort into replies to them.

rtrtcrypto

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Don't even sweat this stuff... the ICO/IPO is over and the tech will either come or it won't. A thread by some random person with some random, almost non-coherent, rant(s) is not worth the time.

Everyone said the same stuff about NXT, how it was "going to be attacked right away", how it was "impossible to secure PoS" and that the "N@S" attack was trivial to execute and blablabla... and the protocol is still there.

Iota might fail, who knows, but it won't be because "CFB is 24" or because "intel has 3 billion a year on R&D", etc... and it won't fail or succeed based on some random thread on this forum.

Quote from: yassin54 on February 05, 2016, 03:44:28 PM

Just relayed information check this Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.0;topicseen

yassin54

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Just relayed information check this Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.0;topicseen

rtrtcrypto

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You are 100% right.

I want the best and most sound release possible. If it takes more time, so be it. To rush this thing out the door because some guy wants to make .1 btc on his .01 btc investment - please, stop wasting our time. Many in here are in for the long haul - we support and want a great and SOUND protocol.

Quote from: charvesp on February 05, 2016, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: AltcoinScamfinder on February 05, 2016, 08:38:17 AM

Quote from: freshman777 on February 05, 2016, 08:09:24 AM

Quote from: child_harold on February 05, 2016, 07:48:59 AM

OK freshman777 - and your qualifications are?

My qualifications are patience and understanding that cutting edge tech requires time and testing, more testing and some more testing. You lack these qualifications, from your posts. Go buy insured government bonds and treat yourself to 1% yearly risk-free profits.

While I agree there is a finite amount of 'time' in a project before a beta should be released. I would prefer a functioning beta asap over waiting further, especially if we are talking GUI improvements over core functionality/viability. The brightest minds out there echo that minimum viable product wins over polished final when it comes to release cycles.

And where did you see that this issue is trivial as GUI. This dilemma is absolutely core functionality related and irreversible.
The few voting no for technical reasons are welcomed. But the few that vote no because they want it out now to.... you know.. sell it?
Are foolish beyond words.

achimsmile

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Sounds great, have to think about your idea rlh!
For all users not on ryver

Cfb:

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If Alice sends yet-not-existent money to Bob and Bob trusts Alice, he can accept her money. If someone trusts that Bob will cover the difference even if Alice fails to pay the credit then he can accept money from Bob. After a while Alice will pay the "credit" and the global tangle will adopt that subtangle built on trust between its participants.

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Use case for IOTA: Independent BOINC Projects

Someone could write a library, or fork the BOINC server. Usage with IOTA is as such.

1. Create a BOINC project.
2. Whenever an IOTA client downloads work, create an IOTA address and send from this empty account the given rewards for finishing the workload. This will give the account a negative balance.
3. The worker can then see that the project node has sent the data and is expecting work.
4. Once the worker finishes her workload, returns the data and it is verified, the BOINC project owner can send money to original payer address.

This is a scenario that can make use of the negative-balance transactions.

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@charvesp, MickGhee, vlight: Some censorship has been done to keep the thread civilized.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

And you never bothered to ask yourself, what the hell is a JINN asset? Thats where most of the crowd sale is going towards.
Further development of the JINN processor. Yet you still put your tiny decimal bitcoins in.

And now you have the nerve to tell people it should be launched now because Xmas eta was given. Given, not promised.

And now you are pretending all along you wanted experts to weigh in not the community, which are full of programmers too.
From the beginning you stated that IOTA is ready now, launch it cuz I say so. Cuz in your world, when you work on something
for a year its always ready and never needs reconsideration.

Yes, these are the same people that up to today can't do a Jinn launch which was supposed to be months ago. I'm having hard time not to laugh at this situation because IOTA may as well be "JINN 2.0" in this regard.

[CENSORED QUOTE]

I wish people could retire from this. Unfortunately things do not work like that in crypto world. Like someone here mentioned before, ~5x ROI is the target IF IOTA launches soon(in days).

superresistant

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Why are people in such a hurry ?
The more testing the better.
Why would you get angry that the software is released tomorrow or after tomorrow ?

Advice for everyone :
Go out, take some fresh air, walk and ask yourself if it's worth it to release a software that is not enough tested.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: ?? on ??

harold, honestly you have no business posting your opinions here. You have every right to participate in the crowd sale but you clearly don't
know what you've "invested" in.

You ask what company? Really? This is the level of intelligence and sophistication you have.
You send bitcoins to a project's crowd sale that accepts two forms of payments, bitcoins and NXT's JINN asset.

And you never bothered to ask yourself, what the hell is a JINN asset? Thats where most of the crowd sale is going towards.
Further development of the JINN processor. Yet you still put your tiny decimal bitcoins in.

And now you have the nerve to tell people it should be launched now because Xmas eta was given. Given, not promised.

And now you are pretending all along you wanted experts to weigh in not the community, which are full of programmers too.
From the beginning you stated that IOTA is ready now, launch it cuz I say so. Cuz in your world, when you work on something
for a year its always ready and never needs reconsideration.

[CENSORED] Thats why I can't stand it here. If we are
blessed and IOTA really catches on. In a few years I can retire to anywhere I want. But you can't because one, your stake is insignificant,
and two you would have already sold it by then guaranteed.

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Quote from: AltcoinScamfinder on February 05, 2016, 08:38:17 AM

Quote from: freshman777 on February 05, 2016, 08:09:24 AM

Quote from: child_harold on February 05, 2016, 07:48:59 AM

OK freshman777 - and your qualifications are?

My qualifications are patience and understanding that cutting edge tech requires time and testing, more testing and some more testing. You lack these qualifications, from your posts. Go buy insured government bonds and treat yourself to 1% yearly risk-free profits.

While I agree there is a finite amount of 'time' in a project before a beta should be released. I would prefer a functioning beta asap over waiting further, especially if we are talking GUI improvements over core functionality/viability. The brightest minds out there echo that minimum viable product wins over polished final when it comes to release cycles.

And where did you see that this issue is trivial as GUI. This dilemma is absolutely core functionality related and irreversible.
The few voting no for technical reasons are welcomed. But the few that vote no because they want it out now to.... you know.. sell it?
Are foolish beyond words.

achimsmile

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Quote from: AltcoinScamfinder on February 05, 2016, 08:38:17 AM

While I agree there is a finite amount of 'time' in a project before a beta should be released. I would prefer a functioning beta asap over waiting further, especially if we are talking GUI improvements over core functionality/viability. The brightest minds out there echo that minimum viable product wins over polished final when it comes to release cycles.

As it looks beta should still be released this weekend

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Quote from: freshman777 on February 05, 2016, 08:09:24 AM

Quote from: child_harold on February 05, 2016, 07:48:59 AM

OK freshman777 - and your qualifications are?

My qualifications are patience and understanding that cutting edge tech requires time and testing, more testing and some more testing. You lack these qualifications, from your posts. Go buy insured government bonds and treat yourself to 1% yearly risk-free profits.

While I agree there is a finite amount of 'time' in a project before a beta should be released. I would prefer a functioning beta asap over waiting further, especially if we are talking GUI improvements over core functionality/viability. The brightest minds out there echo that minimum viable product wins over polished final when it comes to release cycles.

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