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OK freshman777 - and your qualifications are?

@cfb: concerning consensus of balance approach: In which case would full nodes not be able to agree on balances? Each of them stores the full tangle, so if one of them tries to validate transaction A, but sees that other nodes validated a conflicting transaction B with more PoW, then A will get rejected, similar to how it works with blockchains, no?
Just like an input cannot be spent twice, a balance cannot be spent twice either?

I vote for reusable addresses like in Nxt and balances approach, if and only if this design is secure. More days of testing is not a problem, f*ck the whiners.

So since you presumably have no informed opinion on this matter it seems most unwise to comment.

@child_harold you are the only one here how create problem were there aren't.

1. Not sure what to say. When it comes it comes I guess. So you mean to tell me that in the year youve been working on IOTA you never thought about the i/o/account thing before?
2. I'd guess I was more involved than 95% of your investors
3  ok
4. I have given both money and my time. I cannot comment on such technical issues. I suggest you consult Sergio and Vitalik

I feel a bit like Jerry in this clip:
Jerry And His New Cabinets
https://youtu.be/5vvWlZUYVOM

1. Last moment change is not that rare, "right before the launch" is that period when most of insights come to mind.

2. I expected even more involvement. Maybe I should have spent less time on Iota, in this case I wouldn't expect from others to dedicate 16 hours every day too.

3. Jinn Labs.

4. I thought that money is not the only thing that was supposed to be put into Iota from every participant, but if it's not reflected in the terms of sale then it's my fault. I fall for this quite often judging about people as about myself.

Im just gonna +1 this tangleNinja post (No, I did not write it)

and reiterate:

1. In my estimation it is utter folly and nonsense to be asking the community, at short notice, to make fundamental architecture choices for a project CfB has been working on for a year and which was expected to have already launched. It makes me nervous.

2. CfB's comment that the "level of [community] involvement is pretty upsetting" shocked and angered me. I'm on ryver/twitter and here talking iota. To be perfectly honest given iota hasn't even launched yet I think I've done quite enough already to spread the word. I cannot f***ing believe that he said that.

3. What is this company CfB is talking about?

4. Sure I want the car to be better and faster but I dunno how to make it better and faster. That is precisely why I contributed towards a pool of $500,000.
Besides, I was expecting to be driving the car already!

This is a very valuable discussion.d h

I can understand both sides, but the general direction where this is heading worries me.

@IOTA Team, when you guys anounced the crowdsale, you made implications that IOTA was pretty fucking close to beeing ready to launch
and said that we can expect beta before christmas, now the release date for beta was postponed many times, today is febuary 5th and there
is no useable version of IOTA released ( no I dont consider 0.3.0 usable, unless you can figure out how to build a vaild transaction just by looking at the undocumented,
unannotated source code, you really cant expect that )

People not only gave you half a million USD but also gave you shitloads of trust.
Trust in you, your team, your company, your product.

Can you not understand that that trust becomes a bit fragile when you fail to meet expections set by yourself?
 - You said IOTA was close to being lauched, now you ask how basic things should be implemented.
 - repeatedly postponing release dates.

Can you not understand that that trust becomes a bit fragile considering that the general management of this project is unprofessional?
 - I signed up for the email newsletter, never got an email
 - http://collect.iotatoken.com/ TO THIS DAY shows outdated information, you said you were going to change that multiple times.
 - I said this before - no streamlined way of communication - where can i find updates and information? here? ryver? twitter? email? outdated collect.iotatoken website? not even once updated iotatoken website?
 - David once said this is because it is better to have people seek information themselfes, I agree, but if you continue running this project this way people will just stop giving a shit.

How can you look at how the IOTA community is loosing trust and faith In you and not think "Well, thats a little bit our fault"

And then you dare to say things like


Try to take a wild guess as to why.

You should be happy the community has been so patient with you.

But hey, whatever, its not like you actually care about the community and IOTA beeing a great product


If thats truly all you are then what happens after IOTA is released?
Will your poisition change from "lead dev" to "senior i dont give a shit anymore developer" ?


Honestly I am rather dissapointed.
Dosnt mean i have lost all faith in IOTA, just means I want to point out things that could have been done better.
This all boils down to failure of communication, communicate in a more professional, clear, unambiguous way
this could become the best crypto currency and crypto currency community ever.

@Come-from-Beyond

Why don't you organize voting inside NXT, it will be helpful. I know you can fairly easily distribute virtual IOTA token as asset or NXT currency .

For those of you who are afraid of installing another wallet good news is that you don't need to. You can create your NXT address trough any public node (wallet) with "open API": http://www.peerexplorer.com/nodes. After you choose your node next step is to click on "Action: Open Wallet GUI". You will end up on something like these: http://62.194.6.113:7876/index.html

You only need 1 NXT for voting. you can get 4 NXT on these faucet: http://www.nxtinfo.org/nxt-faucet/

If thats truly all you are then what happens after IOTA is released?
Will your poisition change from "lead dev" to "senior i dont give a shit anymore developer" ?

No sure I can participate in this. If IOTA is sold at least twice as that after the release then I'll feel myself like we robbed that guy.