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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 20, 2016, 09:41:30 AM

Quote from: l8orre on January 20, 2016, 09:26:00 AM

seriously?
many people (myself included) consider C# a cheap M$- java knockoff.
Not that I would badmouth such a thing, but it seems a bit redundant...
Getting a native c version looks much more effective.

Disclaimer: Personally, I only dabble in c occasionally, but seeing the raw power and compactness of jl777's SuperNET c codebase made me say that! Grin

The world has changed. http://www.mono-project.com/

into what exactly?

vanilla C is and will be unbeatable in terms of portability and extensibility compard to C#.
sure, adding additional layers (and therefore complexity) to run on nix for instance is
doable but this is not what i am talking about. a lean dependency free 33.3 kb C lib
which compiles from source on all major OS without bloat, ready to use is what i mean.

however, don't want to start a language war here but if your requirements are those
like portability, usability, extensibility etc. to unlock many other devs and projects
you have to go good-old-plain-ansi-C.

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Quote from: l8orre on January 20, 2016, 09:26:00 AM

Quote from: iotatoken on January 20, 2016, 08:43:39 AM

We're talking with RLH who has offered to do C# port.

seriously?
many people (myself included) consider C# a cheap M$- java knockoff.

Lol, this guy. I'd be inclined to agree if it were still ~2004. My opinion, and preference, is both based on observations, conversions (from Java to C#) and working in an analytics department that was 80% java developers and 10% .Net.

We .Net devs would have to sit through the agony of Java lectures about new Java 8 features... that we've used for 5 years. Or, we'd be asked to migrate tasks from Java to C#, so that our C# team could manage processes. Often, line-for-line conversions were faster in execution and rarely did we even care to optimize the converted code since time is money.

Disclaimer: This was for a BIG corporation and our department ran everything strictly on Windows Server machines. I will concede (from running some personal tests) that there is a fair chance that Java would be on par with .Net apps, or likely better, in OS X or Linux systems running on top of Mono.

Of course, I ran those tests about 1-2 years ago and a LOT has changed regarding .Net on these platforms in the past year since M$ is moving a lot of code to Github.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: l8orre on January 20, 2016, 09:26:00 AM

seriously?
many people (myself included) consider C# a cheap M$- java knockoff.
Not that I would badmouth such a thing, but it seems a bit redundant...
Getting a native c version looks much more effective.

Disclaimer: Personally, I only dabble in c occasionally, but seeing the raw power and compactness of jl777's SuperNET c codebase made me say that! Grin

The world has changed. http://www.mono-project.com/

l8orre

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Quote from: iotatoken on January 20, 2016, 08:43:39 AM

We're talking with RLH who has offered to do C# port.

seriously?
many people (myself included) consider C# a cheap M$- java knockoff.
Not that I would badmouth such a thing, but it seems a bit redundant...
Getting a native c version looks much more effective.

Disclaimer: Personally, I only dabble in c occasionally, but seeing the raw power and compactness of jl777's SuperNET c codebase made me say that! Grin

l8orre

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Quote from: nexern on January 20, 2016, 06:29:22 AM

IOTA as lib

don't know how many LOC the current core has but a serious bounty to port the core
to C would be very usefull. many service and communication related apps out there
could benefit form a painless 'snap-in' solution.

not only for micro/nanopayments like mentioned here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13076239

sure, adding a small com layer connecting to a remote host is a another solution
but able to run a full node, wrapped into a language/OS agnostic lib gives
any app dev much better control no matter in what lang those apps are written.

I think @nexern seriously hit the nail on the head there!

c is a timeless basic technology and is supported with minor build modifications over all platforms, and has a smaller footprint because of the lacking java dependency!

+1440!

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Quote from: 50cent_rapper on January 20, 2016, 07:54:36 AM

BitFury to Prototype Bitcoin Mining Device for Internet of Things
http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-bitcoin-mining-internet-of-things/

BitFury deserves accolades for being innovative and pushing boundaries, but this 'mining in IoT device' is in my opinion non-sense.

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Quote from: runall on January 20, 2016, 07:34:03 AM

Quote from: nexern on January 20, 2016, 06:29:22 AM

IOTA as lib

don't know how many LOC the current core has but a serious bounty to port the core
to C would be very usefull.

+1

If devs and community decided to move the core to C/C++, I would also put my bounty in total sum. Also, if it would take time, if I had to wait, I think it would be great to have an alternative from Java to C/C++. It would be great if it were possible. CfB, what do you think about it?

We're talking with RLH who has offered to do C# port.

50cent_rapper

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BitFury to Prototype Bitcoin Mining Device for Internet of Things
http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-bitcoin-mining-internet-of-things/

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Quote from: nexern on January 20, 2016, 06:29:22 AM

IOTA as lib

don't know how many LOC the current core has but a serious bounty to port the core
to C would be very usefull.

+1

If devs and community decided to move the core to C/C++, I would also put my bounty in total sum. Also, if it would take time, if I had to wait, I think it would be great to have an alternative from Java to C/C++. It would be great if it were possible. CfB, what do you think about it?

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Quote from: smooth on January 20, 2016, 05:41:37 AM

Quote from: tobeaj2mer01 on January 20, 2016, 05:39:41 AM

Quote from: Febo on October 21, 2015, 01:13:29 PM

next NXT?

Maybe, early-birds will make 10000* ROI profit Grin

Definitely not an investment. No way. It's a token, for users. Got it?

Definitely you are the best troll around! Grin

nexern

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IOTA as lib

don't know how many LOC the current core has but a serious bounty to port the core
to C would be very usefull. many service and communication related apps out there
could benefit form a painless 'snap-in' solution.

not only for micro/nanopayments like mentioned here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13076239

sure, adding a small com layer connecting to a remote host is a another solution
but able to run a full node, wrapped into a language/OS agnostic lib gives
any app dev much better control no matter in what lang those apps are written.

smooth

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Quote from: tobeaj2mer01 on January 20, 2016, 05:39:41 AM

Quote from: Febo on October 21, 2015, 01:13:29 PM

next NXT?

Maybe, early-birds will make 10000* ROI profit Grin

Definitely not an investment. No way. It's a token, for users. Got it?

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Angel investor.

Quote from: Febo on October 21, 2015, 01:13:29 PM

next NXT?

Maybe, early-birds will make 10000* ROI profit Grin

Tobo

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Quote from: iotatoken on January 19, 2016, 08:06:49 AM

More projects showing interest in using IOTA and we are preparing for IOTA presentation at upcoming IoT events in the coming months. Anyone that wants to actively participate in moving IOTA forward: send me a PM and I will invite you to our Ryver.

Look forward to the presentation. With it we all can become the IOTA sales persons. After all, we all bought the software, right? let's re-sell the software to other companies.

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Quote from: hashtag101 on January 19, 2016, 05:09:47 PM

Im following the steps to claim my Iota, and I generated an address.

It says to put it in the "form below", but the only one I see is the one for Nxters??

Is that the one I use? Is there a separate one? Is my browser screwed up and not showing it? IDK?

I think, NXT'ers must NOT use this "form below". They must Send unencryoted message to one Nxt-Account (NXT-Q4N3-V2QJ-S3GT-FW4Z9).

User who bought Iota with BTC, only they need to use this "form below". If you have made another error, you can always generate a another address by collect.iotatoken.com if you yet not send the confirm transfer with BTC. I do not know more, more information can give you devs.

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Im following the steps to claim my Iota, and I generated an address.

It says to put it in the "form below", but the only one I see is the one for Nxters??

Is that the one I use? Is there a separate one? Is my browser screwed up and not showing it? IDK?

runall

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I think this is more Iota IoT

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Quote from: Febo on October 21, 2015, 01:13:29 PM

next NXT?

What you mean ?

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: msin on January 19, 2016, 11:21:29 AM

Will there by instructions on running a node for those that shared our IP?

Yes.

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Will there by instructions on running a node for those that shared our IP?

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