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hero member
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October 27, 2015, 12:53:25 AM
All I have found so far is the tangle whitepaper. Do you have an outline of the goal of the start-up and how exactly the coin ties into it?

Yes, it'll be made available in the coming week.
member
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October 27, 2015, 12:25:40 AM
Yeah I mean it sounds amazing, but for the basic user <-- ? And you think the community will be big enough to sustain any value set by the ico?
hero member
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October 26, 2015, 06:08:07 PM
Hi, a couple of quick questions since the ICO seems to be the topic now:

How many % of the coins will the team keep?

Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?

Is the ICO the only distribution method?

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.

Yes

ICO is indeed the only distributon method for this project for a couple of reasons:

1) It's the only way we'll get compensated for our work and development, since we have zero premine
2) It's the only way to ensure that the tokens are actually valued, which is needed to kickstart the ecosystem that will form around them and be part of their function


Won't you be compensated by your start-up? ICO's are NOT a good way to establish value, much less the only way.

Start-ups in the hardware industry does not pay dividends for quite some time, especially when it's not just a shiny toy for Kickstarter.

But ICOs are indeed a good way to establish value, it automatically spawns a sizable community that has a direct incentive to keep a platform alive. This is the problem with all these 1000 plus random PoW coins, they have absolutely no incentive. ICOs are not perfect, but they are better than the alternatives for a project such as this.

All I have found so far is the tangle whitepaper. Do you have an outline of the goal of the start-up and how exactly the coin ties into it?
legendary
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October 26, 2015, 06:05:25 PM
I'm supporting this IPO.

There are a number of silent readers, who, as I think, supporting this too.
hero member
Activity: 714
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October 26, 2015, 05:57:39 PM
Hi, a couple of quick questions since the ICO seems to be the topic now:

How many % of the coins will the team keep?

Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?

Is the ICO the only distribution method?

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.

Yes

ICO is indeed the only distributon method for this project for a couple of reasons:

1) It's the only way we'll get compensated for our work and development, since we have zero premine
2) It's the only way to ensure that the tokens are actually valued, which is needed to kickstart the ecosystem that will form around them and be part of their function


Won't you be compensated by your start-up? ICO's are NOT a good way to establish value, much less the only way.

Start-ups in the hardware industry does not pay dividends for quite some time, especially when it's not just a shiny toy for Kickstarter.

But ICOs are indeed a good way to establish value, it automatically spawns a sizable community that has a direct incentive to keep a platform alive. This is the problem with all these 1000 plus random PoW coins, they have absolutely no incentive. ICOs are not perfect, but they are better than the alternatives for a project such as this.
hero member
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October 26, 2015, 05:52:23 PM
Hi, a couple of quick questions since the ICO seems to be the topic now:

How many % of the coins will the team keep?

Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?

Is the ICO the only distribution method?

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.

Yes

ICO is indeed the only distributon method for this project for a couple of reasons:

1) It's the only way we'll get compensated for our work and development, since we have zero premine
2) It's the only way to ensure that the tokens are actually valued, which is needed to kickstart the ecosystem that will form around them and be part of their function


Won't you be compensated by your start-up? ICO's are NOT a good way to establish value, much less the only way.
legendary
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October 26, 2015, 05:20:56 PM
Guys, if you don't stop trolling I'll start abusing moderating power without paying much attention who is right and who is wrong. It's my thread and I set the rule "no trolling allowed".

He's right, my cool watch"ing" picture post was deleted.  Smiley
legendary
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October 26, 2015, 05:20:42 PM
@NextGenCrypto

You are wrong, posts were deleted for violation of my rules. You are welcome back if you don't violate the rules. BitcoinTalk mirror still contains your posts with personal insults.
legendary
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October 26, 2015, 05:03:35 PM
Guys, if you don't stop trolling I'll start abusing moderating power without paying much attention who is right and who is wrong. It's my thread and I set the rule "no trolling allowed".
legendary
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Newbie
October 26, 2015, 05:01:21 PM
how is a 0% premine any more fair than you raising BTC and repaying yourself for the coins you "purchased"?  
either way you are receiving BTC and you are using BTC to buy said coins.  they're free coins for you and less BTC for development.

if you were investing personal funds, why not put that into the development and just take a premine?

What is the difference?
hero member
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October 26, 2015, 04:56:57 PM

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.


ie. we will have no reason to continue working on the coin as we will not be vested in it and have already received another currency we could cash out into FIAT



I have no problem understanding this concern, given the space that we're in (crypto is the wild wild wild west after all), but your assumption here is blatantly wrong. We chose 0% premine because that is what is the absolute most fair to every party involved. We are basing our entire start-up around IoT, which we've been working on in stealth for a year, as explained in OP this is what prompted us to develop IOTA. It is a necessary ingredient for the vision of IoT that our start-up is focused on. On top of this all of us will invest our personal funds into IOTA, so no we have a ton of incentive to make IOTA a success.

how is a 0% premine any more fair than you raising BTC and repaying yourself for the coins you "purchased"?  
either way you are receiving BTC and you are using BTC to buy said coins.  they're free coins for you and less BTC for development.

if you were investing personal funds, why not put that into the development and just take a premine?


It is more fair because it means it's entirely up for grabs to anyone. There is no coins arbitrarily set aside for the developers. If the community insist, please feel free to donate free iotas to us after the ico Wink
hero member
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October 26, 2015, 04:51:33 PM

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.


ie. we will have no reason to continue working on the coin as we will not be vested in it and have already received another currency we could cash out into FIAT



I have no problem understanding this concern, given the space that we're in (crypto is the wild wild wild west after all), but your assumption here is blatantly wrong. We chose 0% premine because that is what is the absolute most fair to every party involved. We are basing our entire start-up around IoT, which we've been working on in stealth for a year, as explained in OP this is what prompted us to develop IOTA. It is a necessary ingredient for the vision of IoT that our start-up is focused on. On top of this all of us will invest our personal funds into IOTA, so no we have a ton of incentive to make IOTA a success.

how is a 0% premine any more fair than you raising BTC and repaying yourself for the coins you "purchased"?  
either way you are receiving BTC and you are using BTC to buy said coins.  they're free coins for you and less BTC for development.

if you were investing personal funds, why not put that into the development and just take a premine?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
October 26, 2015, 04:47:17 PM

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.


ie. we will have no reason to continue working on the coin as we will not be vested in it and have already received another currency we could cash out into FIAT



I have no problem understanding this concern, given the space that we're in (crypto is the wild wild wild west after all), but your assumption here is blatantly wrong. We chose 0% premine because that is what is the absolute most fair to every party involved. We are basing our entire start-up around IoT, which we've been working on in stealth for a year, as explained in OP this is what prompted us to develop IOTA. It is a necessary ingredient for the vision of IoT that our start-up is focused on. On top of this all of us will invest our personal funds into IOTA, so no we have a ton of incentive to make IOTA a success.
sr. member
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October 26, 2015, 04:43:45 PM


ie. we will have no reason to continue working on the coin as we will not be vested in it and have already received another currency we could cash out into FIAT



They will still have 90% of JINN.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
October 26, 2015, 04:36:03 PM

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.


ie. we will have no reason to continue working on the coin as we will not be vested in it and have already received another currency we could cash out into FIAT

legendary
Activity: 2142
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Newbie
October 26, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
ICO is indeed the only distributon method for this project for a couple of reasons:

1) It's the only way we'll get compensated for our work and development, since we have zero premine
2) It's the only way to ensure that the tokens are actually valued, which is needed to kickstart the ecosystem that will form around them and be part of their function

You forgot about technical impossibility to issue coins over time.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
October 26, 2015, 04:33:28 PM
Hi, a couple of quick questions since the ICO seems to be the topic now:

How many % of the coins will the team keep?

Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?

Is the ICO the only distribution method?

0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else.

Yes

ICO is indeed the only distributon method for this project for a couple of reasons:

1) It's the only way we'll get compensated for our work and development, since we have zero premine
2) It's the only way to ensure that the tokens are actually valued, which is needed to kickstart the ecosystem that will form around them and be part of their function
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
October 26, 2015, 04:31:19 PM
Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?

Not possible regardless of what they tell you.  This is cryptocurrency, there is 0 validation of who is buying anything.  You know better than that.

I don't know. A lot of things have been considered impossible before, like scalable trustless electronic cash. Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
October 26, 2015, 04:26:52 PM
Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?

Not possible regardless of what they tell you.  This is cryptocurrency, there is 0 validation of who is buying anything.  You know better than that.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
October 26, 2015, 04:25:28 PM
Hi, a couple of quick questions since the ICO seems to be the topic now:

How many % of the coins will the team keep?

Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?

Is the ICO the only distribution method?
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