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Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 02:42:40 AM

Imo no scamming took place: sending btc to a random, unnown, drunk on the internet is just stupid.
Sending btc to a random, unnown drunk on the internet and being warned multiple times is just retarded.

If you leave your purse on the street it's not stealing if someone takes it?

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Quote from: MvpLineup on June 26, 2016, 11:16:06 PM

I'm all for freezing or outright distributing CH's and CK's Iota to the buyers before the network starts. Even though people should have been using escrow, there is a chance to make this right before launch so a whole boatload of people don't get hurt.

there is a case to be made for that, since it has not officially launched.

Doing as ETH is doing is committing fraud and they won't survive it because their credibility will be zero if they do that, but in the case of IOTA, the potential scam victims could be lucky, because the tokens do not officially exist yet and have not been delivered yet.

Once out if the gates though, all bets are off.

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It is kind of on topic because this centralised action could effect the Iota price.

Imo no scamming took place: sending btc to a random, unnown, drunk on the internet is just stupid.
Sending btc to a random, unnown drunk on the internet and being warned multiple times is just retarded.

Imo in crypto we are trying to create transparancy, taking back control, for instance by not paying too much for electricity, monitoring and securing your own data etc.

Decentralisation is a big part of Iota as well, for security and transparancy reasons. If not why not just centralise?
Absolute power by an individual is not the way to go imo.

But you made your descision, and since Iota will be decentralised after launch and data can't be altered anymore without consensus, this will be my last remark on the matter.

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on June 26, 2016, 02:11:02 PM

Quote from: hellsingfan on June 26, 2016, 02:00:27 PM

@CFB I highly recommend getting CK's seed if possible. I HOPE he's not a scammer but I feel he is.

How can I get his seed?

Since you brought this up and you are freezing Child_Harolds account, how did you get his seed? And how do you know it's his?

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Quote from: lovely89 on June 27, 2016, 01:28:31 AM

Quote from: MvpLineup on June 26, 2016, 11:31:13 PM

Quote from: moonfrog on June 26, 2016, 11:25:04 PM

Quote from: MvpLineup on June 26, 2016, 11:16:06 PM

I'm all for freezing or outright distributing CH's and CK's Iota to the buyers before the network starts. Even though people should have been using escrow, there is a chance to make this right before launch so a whole boatload of people don't get hurt.

OK, this is nice, but what about NXT AE IOTA issuers? It could be a potential scams.

I don't recall any Nxt AE issuers being a problem. The problem is with two sellers, Child Harold and Crypto Knight.

Until iota is sent from the sellers, all sellers are potential scammers. Singling these two out is unfair.

All buyers should be cautioned about the risks of buying but accusations should be reserved until proof or certainty is attained.

Its perfectly fair. It is nothing personal and everything about their actions and communications.

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Quote from: l8orre on June 27, 2016, 01:14:11 AM

cryptoknight posted recently and insisted on honouring his deals- he also said he is embarrassed by being termed a scammer.

prly getting in touch with him via PM is best for buyers, and be careful with accusations.... for what it's worth

Did he post why he didn't want to reveal his seed? If no, it's worth asking.

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Quote from: MvpLineup on June 26, 2016, 11:31:13 PM

Quote from: moonfrog on June 26, 2016, 11:25:04 PM

Quote from: MvpLineup on June 26, 2016, 11:16:06 PM

I'm all for freezing or outright distributing CH's and CK's Iota to the buyers before the network starts. Even though people should have been using escrow, there is a chance to make this right before launch so a whole boatload of people don't get hurt.

OK, this is nice, but what about NXT AE IOTA issuers? It could be a potential scams.

I don't recall any Nxt AE issuers being a problem. The problem is with two sellers, Child Harold and Crypto Knight.

Until iota is sent from the sellers, all sellers are potential scammers. Singling these two out is unfair.

All buyers should be cautioned about the risks of buying but accusations should be reserved until proof or certainty is attained.

l8orre

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cryptoknight posted recently and insisted on honouring his deals- he also said he is embarrassed by being termed a scammer.

prly getting in touch with him via PM is best for buyers, and be careful with accusations.... for what it's worth

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Quote from: moonfrog on June 26, 2016, 11:25:04 PM

OK, this is nice, but what about NXT AE IOTA issuers? It could be a potential scams.

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Quote from: moonfrog on June 26, 2016, 11:25:04 PM

Quote from: MvpLineup on June 26, 2016, 11:16:06 PM

I'm all for freezing or outright distributing CH's and CK's Iota to the buyers before the network starts. Even though people should have been using escrow, there is a chance to make this right before launch so a whole boatload of people don't get hurt.

OK, this is nice, but what about NXT AE IOTA issuers? It could be a potential scams.

I don't recall any Nxt AE issuers being a problem. The problem is with two sellers, Child Harold and Crypto Knight.

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Quote from: MvpLineup on June 26, 2016, 11:16:06 PM

I'm all for freezing or outright distributing CH's and CK's Iota to the buyers before the network starts. Even though people should have been using escrow, there is a chance to make this right before launch so a whole boatload of people don't get hurt.

OK, this is nice, but what about NXT AE IOTA issuers? It could be a potential scams.

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I'm all for freezing or outright distributing CH's and CK's Iota to the buyers before the network starts. Even though people should have been using escrow, there is a chance to make this right before launch so a whole boatload of people don't get hurt.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on June 26, 2016, 09:31:08 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 26, 2016, 09:27:24 AM

Why would you freeze the account in the first place, just let it between the police and the ftards that send their bitcoin to a random dude on the interweb.

I don't know laws of your country of residence, but in my country I have the right to stop a crime if I have reasons to think a crime is happening. Even more, I get extra protection from the law in this case. So I took an active position in this very case by providing technical assistance to the company which sold iotas.

i appreciate your decision! of course, i am one of the "stupid" people which bought something, where no one really knows what it will become. for me it is a border-less, decentralized and "trust-less" system that helps the world to get better... that's what i believe and this is the reason why i am interested in such a project, and of course for some profit. the latter might get me a bit blind .. but i prefer to lose some money to help some new idea to grow, than to invest in some big centralized companies or banks.

i thought about legal actions by law against ch, but who knows where he is from and if the case is not big enough, the international law wouldn't awake for this. so, the only possibility is to help each other, to prevent such scams and to do something against it and so to build a new ecosystem.

my english is not the best, but i hope you got the message

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Quote from: ewibit on June 26, 2016, 05:06:47 PM

Quote from: cryptoknightt on June 26, 2016, 02:12:51 PM

Get your horse up to the gates. Official Greenlight Imminent!!
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such a
carnival barker...

I think given his behavior that CryptoKnight is probably doing drugs. It explains his insistence on not using Escrow, so that he can dump the BTC right away for cash to get his fixes. This type of behavior is commonly seen with addicts, and I've seen this behavior multiple times before in the Bitcointalk forum where later it was revealed that the reason was drugs.

I hope I am wrong, because its really sad if true, but its pretty common in the crypto bitcointalk world.

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Bitcoiner, Crypto-anarchist and Cypherpunk.

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Quote from: Seccour on June 26, 2016, 03:41:41 PM

Quote from: cryptoknightt on June 26, 2016, 02:12:51 PM

How many IOTAs do you have ? Because you already sold more than 12 Ti and that's a lot of IOTAs.

And how many times did he said it was his last batch... Lips sealed

Yeah i forgot about that. And he don't even reply to people that keep accused him of being a scammer he prefer to lower his price. To many red flags...

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Quote from: ewibit on June 26, 2016, 05:06:47 PM

Quote from: cryptoknightt on June 26, 2016, 02:12:51 PM

Get your horse up to the gates. Official Greenlight Imminent!!
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such a
carnival barker...

perfect description

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Quote from: cryptoknightt on June 26, 2016, 02:12:51 PM

Get your horse up to the gates. Official Greenlight Imminent!!
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such a
carnival barker...

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once again! cryptoknight refused to use escrow and somebody else also posted that cryptoknight refuses to use escrow.

NEVER buy without escrow, unless you are damn sure that it is legit.

He is also the ONLY one here lowering his prices, while there are more and more releases.

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Quote from: kjadB on June 26, 2016, 04:45:15 PM

Quote from: ImI on June 26, 2016, 04:26:18 PM

those two fuckheads really annoyed me with their silly style of selling their stuff. now i know why.

wasn't cryptoknightt using escrow for his trades?

does that look like escrow to you? Wink

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22,500 NOW 62,539,447,500 0.75 BTC Skormie straight-sale
22,500 NOW 62,539,447,500 0.75 BTC Wesgen straight-sale
46,000 NOW 127,858,426,000 1.50 BTC peer2peer360 Seccour
22,500 NOW 62,539,447,500 0.75 BTC peer2peer360 straight-sale
22,500 NOW 62,539,447,500 0.75 BTC csdndownload straight-sale
22,500 NOW 62,539,447,500 0.75 BTC nextblast straight-sale
22,500 NOW 62,539,447,500 0.75 BTC CryptoMrM straight-sale
22,500 NOW 62,539,447,500 0.75 BTC Nextblast straight-sale
120,000 NOW 333,543,720,000 2.80 BTC BlackFor3st straight-sale
90,000 NOW 250,157,790,000 2.10 BTC Nanuk straight-sale
218,602 NOW 607,611,035,662 5.10 BTC Nextblast straight-sale
180,000 NOW 500,315,580,000 4.20 BTC passtracker straight-sale
270,000 NOW 750,473,370,000 5.70 BTC Ruiz straight-sale
50,000 NOW 138,976,550,000 0.95 BTC AlphaDet straight-sale
100,000 NOW 277,953,100,000 1.90 BTC Emperor of Man straight-sale
150,000 NOW 416,929,650,000 2.85 BTC Aragoon straight-sale
50,000 NOW 138,976,550,000 0.95 BTC Termie straight-sale
45,000 NOW 125,078,895,000 0.95 BTC BlackFor3st straight-sale
500,000 NOW 1,389,765,500,000 BTC Bubbletea789 straight-sale
PRIVATE DEAL 28.5 BTC Bubbletea789 straight-sale
NEW 750G IOTA 5 BTC Ruiz straight-sale
NEW 375G IOTA 2.55 BTC arjen01 straight-sale
NEW 500G IOTA 3.4 BTC bitcoinuserz straight-sale
NEW 125G IOTA 0.85 BTC CryptKeeper straight-sale
NEW 125G IOTA 0.85 BTC koYnsta straight-sale
NEW 250G IOTA 1.7 BTC Niemand straight-sale
NEW 125G IOTA .8 BTC Bloomsy straight-sale
NEW 300G IOTA 2 BTC VanLan straight-sale
NEW 250G IOTA 2 BTC Niemand straight-sale
NEW 3,125G IOTA BTC Mr. E straight-sale
NEW 625G IOTA 3 BTC Olloman straight-sale

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Quote from: ImI on June 26, 2016, 04:26:18 PM

those two fuckheads really annoyed me with their silly style of selling their stuff. now i know why.

wasn't cryptoknightt using escrow for his trades?

ImI

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those two fuckheads really annoyed me with their silly style of selling their stuff. now i know why.

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