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It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.

Your logic is flawed.

Are you implying giving the stolen tokens to those who paid for them but were scammed is wrong?

No, let me break it down in little pieces for you: Two wrongs:

1. it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.
2. 0.1% chance someone ELSE will get scammed (which is a random number you made up, but let's keep this in for the sake of argument)

Hence the saying: Two wrongs don't make a right.

Get it?

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Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 08:21:25 AM

Quote from: illodin on June 27, 2016, 08:15:49 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 08:01:28 AM

Quote from: illodin on June 27, 2016, 06:28:19 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 05:32:34 AM

It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.

Your logic is flawed.

Are you implying giving the stolen tokens to those who paid for them but were scammed is wrong?

LitcoinCollector

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Quote from: illodin on June 27, 2016, 08:15:49 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 08:01:28 AM

Quote from: illodin on June 27, 2016, 06:28:19 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 05:32:34 AM

It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.

Your logic is flawed, please rethink your comment.

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Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 08:01:28 AM

Quote from: illodin on June 27, 2016, 06:28:19 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 05:32:34 AM

It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.

LitcoinCollector

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Quote from: illodin on June 27, 2016, 06:28:19 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 05:32:34 AM

It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

LitcoinCollector

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on June 27, 2016, 05:37:50 AM

Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 04:44:27 AM

Please, I am disappointed in the 'suspect trolling' argument.

Ofcourse he can sell the account + seed, why not, this deal could be made without your knowledge.

But since I am the only one that is concerned about this, I will leave it at that.

Don't give up that quick. Explain how he could sell the seed if he is obliged to send iotas from that seed? Assuming he is not going to scam his customers.

Please try to act like a professional and stop making remarks like 'don't give up that quick', it's childish.
I am a customer who purchased software from a company you work for.

You can sell a password/ seed/ private key whatever. No problem.
Or do you have some additional information on CH's account that makes this impossible?

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Given that I have done many sales I am impressed that no one has called me a scammer yet:) I would just like everyone to know that while I was foolishly one of cryptoknightt's largest buyers, I realized the potential that I was duped early on and none of my sales have come out of the batch I bought from him. Every iota I have sold I have access to and will be able to fulfill my obligations 100%, regardless of default.

@ck, I truly hope you stick to your word on our deal, and that there is a respectful human on the other end of this screen.

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Quote from: Admiral_Bit on June 27, 2016, 05:12:20 AM

I´d be willing to buy 150,000,000,000 IOTAS for 1 BTC

please send me your offers. Escrow is mandatory...

i suggest you buy anything you can from cryptoknightt, because he is selling really cheap iotas, and even if he tries to scam, there will be bail out from the core team: so, that's a golden deal opportunity!

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Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 05:32:34 AM

It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

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Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 05:32:34 AM

Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

I agree with you on everything. I think those people had no right to claim for any action after acting so stupidly.

But CFB may know the account. When he settled previous trades, and asked CFB to move funds, he had to sign his BTC address that participated in the ICO or provide his iota seed, to confirm where to move funds from.

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Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 04:44:27 AM

Please, I am disappointed in the 'suspect trolling' argument.

Ofcourse he can sell the account + seed, why not, this deal could be made without your knowledge.

But since I am the only one that is concerned about this, I will leave it at that.

Don't give up that quick. Explain how he could sell the seed if he is obliged to send iotas from that seed? Assuming he is not going to scam his customers.

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Quote from: LitcoinCollector on June 27, 2016, 04:52:02 AM

let's focus on the Iota launch, and agree to disagree.

agreed

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Quote from: Felixtwist on June 27, 2016, 05:00:49 AM

@iotatoken has made a final decision, awesome everyone should appreciate there a lot of tasks to be done so lets move on. I agree @litcoin collector seems to be the only one still defending CH but i am done with hearing this name, there is a matter of days until launch and I am looking forward to see what awesome work has been done by the iota team ..

Since you are posting my name, I ofcourse am obliged to react.

I am not defending anyone.
I am only interested in the facts: yes CH is gone and took a lot of btc.

It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Again I am the only one with this concern so let's leave it at this and focus on Iota Launch.

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Quote from: Admiral_Bit on June 27, 2016, 05:12:20 AM

I´d be willing to buy 150,000,000,000 IOTAS for 1 BTC

please send me your offers. Escrow is mandatory...

At that price only without escrow.

I'm kidding

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I´d be willing to buy 150,000,000,000 IOTAS for 1 BTC

please send me your offers. Escrow is mandatory...

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@iotatoken has made a final decision, awesome everyone should appreciate there a lot of tasks to be done so lets move on. I agree @litcoin collector seems to be the only one still defending CH but i am done with hearing this name, there is a matter of days until launch and I am looking forward to see what awesome work has been done by the iota team ..

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