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Quote from: Uruhara on October 04, 2023, 07:20:52 AM

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Getting highest degree opening bigger chance or opportunity with higher income but depend with your skill not only about how highest your degree achievement, in the field your experienced and working skill needed not only about with highest of your degree but also depend with skill do you have related or not based on your degree. In my country Indonesia, there are not really important about how highest your degree but how improvement your skill will give help to get more or bigger income.

I think have good ideas if you have been success with achievement highest degree why not apply working on bigger company outside from your country, based on Europe Union have highest payment salary you can apply job there than focus with highest degree in your country but still difficult to earn bigger income. Related in my country when salary payment around $300 every month but when working on other country they will pay based on how many hour of working.

It's true that in our country, namely Indonesia, it is basically our own skills that make us more likely to make more money.
However, a high bachelor's degree is an important support in order to meet the requirements to be accepted for work in a company. But relationships or connections are always needed too.

But when we have expertise or skills that exceed other people, even without a diploma, there will be many companies offering us jobs. Because one of my acquaintances is also like that. He didn't go to high school. But because he has above average expertise in a field. Then he was offered a job by a company directly without having to take part in a selection or anything. But not everyone can be so lucky. And in reality, skills are still very important. And if you add an educational degree then it will be even better.

Same situation here in my country or place but i do believe that this is something a global problem or something that should be in concern that having connections or relationship into those people who are sitting on

top positions is always having that kind of advantage compared into those people who dont have or simply making up some applications plainly compared into those who do apply but having some backer or
someone who do really pushes up their application for them to be interviewed and would be accepted. Its not really that new anymore that there would really be those people who would really be set on priority and
there would really be those people who would really be simply neglect out despite on having that great educational attainment or credentials but somehow if there would really be no other option
or they have lack of manpower or staffs then to those who do have that much better credentials or educational backgrounds would really be always having the advantage.
This is something not a shocking thing anymore here on this society.

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An academic pursuit sure increases ones ability to earn and broadens their thinking scope to explore other options beyond ones boundaries.
You know academic pursuit could even be on the subject of expansion of ones knowledge on BTC and the cryptocurrencies market or based on cyber security for all things relating to decentralized wallets or systems for those who need to be secure from hackers.
It is way better to pursue academy qualifications in an area where one is more passionate about than in other areas because people are doing so or as directed by anyone who's someone to us.

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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on October 04, 2023, 09:27:14 AM

In our country, even applying as a cashier you need be at least a college graduate. Nowadays, employers have a high standard when it comes to hiring employees. If you have a skill in some field, and you have a degree, that is a plus factor when it comes to applying for a better paying job.

There are really some company that will check your experience depends on the field that you are applying and offer you a decent amount of salary, you are lucky enough if the employer will disregard your background in school and focus solely on your skill. But wherever you go, you will definitely meet an employer that have a high standard, that's why having a degree is really better.

Exactly. Both academic background and experience are mostly required by a lot of employers now. The standards for some low-paying roles can even be obnoxious at times when you do some research and realize that it's not the same with other countries. Hence, it is understandable why some individuals are having a hard time finding jobs.

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In our country, even applying as a cashier you need be at least a college graduate. Nowadays, employers have a high standard when it comes to hiring employees. If you have a skill in some field, and you have a degree, that is a plus factor when it comes to applying for a better paying job.

There are really some company that will check your experience depends on the field that you are applying and offer you a decent amount of salary, you are lucky enough if the employer will disregard your background in school and focus solely on your skill. But wherever you go, you will definitely meet an employer that have a high standard, that's why having a degree is really better.

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Degree is a certificate obtained when graduated from a department of studies so I am would say that obtaining numberous degree is as investors diversifies their source of incomes (investment).
Without going contrarily, studying in different fields is a process of obtaining versatile knowledges as a process of education.
There are people who majorly enjoys studying just as to be knowledgeable while there are people who studies to secure jobs but however, studying has the potentials to secure you job (s) due to an acknowledgement and with the prove of your certificate obtained.
Studying would nurture your aid of ability to expantiate their theorical and practical ability which tends to build your imperfection of being perfect of not professional.

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Quote from: armanda90 on October 03, 2023, 10:25:56 PM

Getting highest degree opening bigger chance or opportunity with higher income but depend with your skill not only about how highest your degree achievement, in the field your experienced and working skill needed not only about with highest of your degree but also depend with skill do you have related or not based on your degree. In my country Indonesia, there are not really important about how highest your degree but how improvement your skill will give help to get more or bigger income.

I think have good ideas if you have been success with achievement highest degree why not apply working on bigger company outside from your country, based on Europe Union have highest payment salary you can apply job there than focus with highest degree in your country but still difficult to earn bigger income. Related in my country when salary payment around $300 every month but when working on other country they will pay based on how many hour of working.

It's true that in our country, namely Indonesia, it is basically our own skills that make us more likely to make more money.
However, a high bachelor's degree is an important support in order to meet the requirements to be accepted for work in a company. But relationships or connections are always needed too.

But when we have expertise or skills that exceed other people, even without a diploma, there will be many companies offering us jobs. Because one of my acquaintances is also like that. He didn't go to high school. But because he has above average expertise in a field. Then he was offered a job by a company directly without having to take part in a selection or anything. But not everyone can be so lucky. And in reality, skills are still very important. And if you add an educational degree then it will be even better.

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Getting highest degree opening bigger chance or opportunity with higher income but depend with your skill not only about how highest your degree achievement, in the field your experienced and working skill needed not only about with highest of your degree but also depend with skill do you have related or not based on your degree. In my country Indonesia, there are not really important about how highest your degree but how improvement your skill will give help to get more or bigger income.

I think have good ideas if you have been success with achievement highest degree why not apply working on bigger company outside from your country, based on Europe Union have highest payment salary you can apply job there than focus with highest degree in your country but still difficult to earn bigger income. Related in my country when salary payment around $300 every month but when working on other country they will pay based on how many hour of working.

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Quote from: Lantind on October 03, 2023, 01:33:35 PM

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

Choosing whether to continue your education or not will really depend on a person's personality, there are some people who are able to do both of these things and there are also those who only choose to pursue one field that they like until they earn an income from it. However, I think, without having expertise in the field of education that we have completed, we will not be able to find work with the degree that we have.

There's some people who can really handle the pressure of academic and his job. But whenever you come up in this situation, you will have to sacrifice something like your health, time and stress. From that, by not handling both you decided to choose one like focus on your study but not having an income or focus on your work but your time are focused on work than having a degree. There's nothing wrong on choosing what path do you think would fit on you, cause some people were rather choose survival, but they know that having a degree is a benefit for finding a higher paying jobs which can be good in the future. Don't feel left behind if some of your mates already graduated while you are still working, or the other hand. We all have different paces and situation in life, so just focus on what you think the best for you.

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Quote from: Y3shot on September 27, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

I will point China as an example, not that they do not go to school but they focus more on production and services, this can be achieved with or without degrees and they care currently one of the largest economy in the world.
The concept of producing a comodity or rendering a service isn't only taught in schools, besides that, the practical experience of getting your hands dirty is not in the classroom but out there in the field. The school is poised with the responsibility of giving you the principles which will serve as a fundamental knowledge to you but to really be successful, you have to adenture into having a product or a service that you offer.

china is a country where education is everything honestly, same with korea and japan i doubt they put education second, because as far as I know there if you don't get into prestigious university you will become second rate workers.
moreover its undeniable fact that there are many people becoming rich in china due to the manufacturing of products by simply owning factory that is in demand by the western but that also need capital.
you just don't go around starting factory with zero dollar as initial capital, you need money from somewhere, and if you don't have your best bet would be scoring high at gaokao getting into good university and getting that good earning in large corporation.
the path of entrepreneurship that you mentioned is the path for those with money.

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Quote from: Lantind on October 03, 2023, 01:33:35 PM

Quote from: Ever-young on October 03, 2023, 07:13:33 AM

Quote from: Y3shot on September 27, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

Choosing whether to continue your education or not will really depend on a person's personality, there are some people who are able to do both of these things and there are also those who only choose to pursue one field that they like until they earn an income from it. However, I think, without having expertise in the field of education that we have completed, we will not be able to find work with the degree that we have.

In todays situation specially on some countries on which unemployment rate is really that high then no matter how many degrees that you have obtained or able to finish which it wont really be giving you the guarantee on

getting a decent job or would really be according into your expertise on which it might really be leading you no choice but to apply on something which is really that out of scope of your interest, and since you dont have no choice then for sure you cant really be happy and not really be that efficient when it comes to your work but later on on the time that you do able to make yourself get used to it then this is where contentment begins.
We know getting job is tough due to high competition but having degree would really be putting you up some advantage compared into those people who doesnt have one.

It did really just turn out that in todays situation where there are people who dont have proper education or degree is much more richer compared into those professionals.
Why? lots of opportunities that we could see around and it turns out that it becomes that relevant and significant to other people.

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Quote from: Ever-young on October 03, 2023, 07:13:33 AM

Quote from: Y3shot on September 27, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

Choosing whether to continue your education or not will really depend on a person's personality, there are some people who are able to do both of these things and there are also those who only choose to pursue one field that they like until they earn an income from it. However, I think, without having expertise in the field of education that we have completed, we will not be able to find work with the degree that we have.

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In today's working world, some mainstream companies still require job applicants to have at least a university degree. Diplomas are mainly seen as a means for employees to advance their careers. However, for an employer, it's not a prerequisite.

Fundamentally, in the professional realm, skills take precedence. A diploma signifies that someone has undergone formal education, but it doesn't guarantee their ability to perform well. Therefore, what's more crucial than a diploma nowadays is one's portfolio.

The more evidence you have of your work, the better companies can assess your abilities without having to rely on a diploma. You just need to put in extra effort to prove that with your portfolio, you are genuinely capable of excelling in your job.

One day in the future, we will witness that those who hold ~~diplomas~~ portfolio are the ones deserving of employment.

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Quote from: Y3shot on September 27, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

~snip~ Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

I am sure that effort and hard work will ultimately bring goodness. In fact, there is no guarantee that economic and financial conditions will be better if we have a good academic degree, but those who have a good academic degree have a greater chance of getting a good job with a high salary. Life is about contestation and opportunities, whoever can take advantage of opportunities and work hard, I am sure he will get maximum results someday

So as long as there is still time and opportunity, I think there is no harm in studying and seeking an academic degree for the future. Even though we don't know what will happen in the future, we still have to try hard

Being educated or having a good academic certificate does not guarantee a good job in a country. Because if there are not more industrial establishments or business establishments in that country then job opportunities will not be created. However, those who are highly educated will have more chances of getting government job, but there is also competition and there is no guarantee that everyone will get the job. However, where there are more companies established in the area, job opportunities will also increase. Government alone cannot reduce the unemployment of large number of people by providing government jobs. A country where people study only for jobs will find it difficult to get jobs.

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Quote from: Ever-young on October 03, 2023, 07:13:33 AM

Quote from: Y3shot on September 27, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

You are right. It depends on a lot of things. For example, in the country I live in education certainly counts. Having a good degree and coming from a good school gives a good advantage, however, that necessarily isn't enough as employers often look for experiences in the field an individual is applying to for them to be considered for the role they are applying to. Hence, in my opinion, it is best to find part-time jobs that are remote and time-flexible while studying so that way we are able to get both the degree and the experience.

The world is full of competition and being able to have as much advantage as you can allows us to have a better standing against other competitors.

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Quote from: Y3shot on September 27, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

I will point China as an example, not that they do not go to school but they focus more on production and services, this can be achieved with or without degrees and they care currently one of the largest economy in the world.
The concept of producing a comodity or rendering a service isn't only taught in schools, besides that, the practical experience of getting your hands dirty is not in the classroom but out there in the field. The school is poised with the responsibility of giving you the principles which will serve as a fundamental knowledge to you but to really be successful, you have to adenture into having a product or a service that you offer.

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Quote from: Y3shot on September 27, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

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Quote from: slapper on October 03, 2023, 04:33:20 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on October 03, 2023, 01:39:42 AM

Education makes a person better; that's very basic. However, getting a degree means you add another layer of knowledge, which can give you a better advantage over your competitors who don't have a degree. However, do consider the country you are living in, as the economy of a country can significantly affect how valuable your degree is.

For example, if you are living in a poor country, it's presumed that the unemployment rate is high. Even worse is if underemployment is also prevalent, as this would make your degree less valuable due to few jobs created but many people with degrees looking for employment.

Based on my personal experience, I find it more ideal to start a business than to look for a job due to the income difference, though the former may seem riskier. On the other hand, if you still want to use your degree, it's better to go overseas and work in countries where salary rates are good, so at least you can be justified for the hard work you put into earning your degree.

You appear to believe that a degree is only a "extra layer" of education. Cute. There is more to a degree than just a piece of paper. It serves as proof of one's dedication, discipline, and perseverance.

I don't know if what I said was the proper term, but I just want to emphasize based on the situation of OP where he lives in a country where the salaries are not good. For me, having a degree gives you an edge over others who don't, but it still does not give you the satisfaction of earning because the overall economy of the nation is struggling.

You can be a doctor in a poor country, but you are earning just like a janitor in a rich country. That's simply what I'm trying to say.

Quote from: slapper on October 03, 2023, 04:33:20 AM

How does a nation's economy impact the worth of a degree, then? Okay, that makes sense. What if earning a degree has benefits that goes beyond finding employment? What if the goal is to advance personally, network, and broaden one's outlook?

I was referring to the value of money or salary when I said 'worth' because the topic was about money earned as a salary. In terms of the purpose served, of course, a degree holder can do the job, but the salary is not worth it.

Quote from: slapper on October 03, 2023, 04:33:20 AM

Creating a company rather than hunting for employment? Yes, if you have the resources, the concept, and the guts. Keep in mind, though, that not everyone is made out for the world of entrepreneurship. Going abroad, too? It is not an easy task. There are many difficulties associated with moving abroad, including culture shock, homesickness, and settling in. However, if you believe you have it figured out, then by all means, bravo.

When you are planning to create a company or start a business, which is specifically what I said, it doesn't require a lot of money. Anyone can do it from the very beginning with a small capital. I'm suggesting to be more practical and forget about a degree when you are still complaining about what you earn or if you see that businessmen earn more money compared to people who are employed.

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 03, 2023, 01:39:42 AM

Education makes a person better; that's very basic. However, getting a degree means you add another layer of knowledge, which can give you a better advantage over your competitors who don't have a degree. However, do consider the country you are living in, as the economy of a country can significantly affect how valuable your degree is.

For example, if you are living in a poor country, it's presumed that the unemployment rate is high. Even worse is if underemployment is also prevalent, as this would make your degree less valuable due to few jobs created but many people with degrees looking for employment.

Based on my personal experience, I find it more ideal to start a business than to look for a job due to the income difference, though the former may seem riskier. On the other hand, if you still want to use your degree, it's better to go overseas and work in countries where salary rates are good, so at least you can be justified for the hard work you put into earning your degree.

You appear to believe that a degree is only a "extra layer" of education. Cute. There is more to a degree than just a piece of paper. It serves as proof of one's dedication, discipline, and perseverance.

How does a nation's economy impact the worth of a degree, then? Okay, that makes sense. What if earning a degree has benefits that goes beyond finding employment? What if the goal is to advance personally, network, and broaden one's outlook?

Creating a company rather than hunting for employment? Yes, if you have the resources, the concept, and the guts. Keep in mind, though, that not everyone is made out for the world of entrepreneurship. Going abroad, too? It is not an easy task. There are many difficulties associated with moving abroad, including culture shock, homesickness, and settling in. However, if you believe you have it figured out, then by all means, bravo.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on October 01, 2023, 10:13:38 PM

I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.

The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is

Most people have high achievements in academics and graduate with the best grades. So, as you said, it will be easier for them to be accepted by companies that need their services. Sometimes they are even immediately offered jobs by companies who are interested in these outstanding students. It's just that it is very rare for someone to become an outstanding student and always be the best. Because most of us can only afford to be ordinary students.

And it's true that not everyone with a high level of education will find it easy to apply for jobs. Because currently relationships and connections with insiders are sometimes what is most needed to make it easier for us to be accepted into a company.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on September 27, 2023, 05:08:48 AM

Getting a degree & being well-educated certainly helps to get a good job but it’s not a necessity. If you have a skill or a really good, outgoing personality you can earn just as much, if not more money than somebody who is much more intelligent than you. I know lots of people who went to college & ended up being teachers. I didn’t go to college & I am far more financially successful than all of them. Also, you are here on bitcointalk.org, you don’t need a degree to buy Bitcoin & become wealthy that way.

Academic qualification is indeed good for knowing some basic stuff in life and as well get you a job for a start-up, but the certification alone does not guarantee you a job, hence the need for acquiring more skills becomes necessary. Even in school, they don't teach you financial education or how to earn money but teach you how to interact and face the society. If you check I don't see any academic professor who made a list of the world's richest men.

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