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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Here in my country, knowledge is just like something you acquire, definetly everyone is expected to acquire knowledge. But the ability to make money does not depend on your education status. Most billoniara in my country didn't even have a 1st degree satificate and sometimes seeing all this discourages the young graduate with no job and now nobody wants to talk about education, everyone looking for money. What am trying to say is if you have the opportunity and the skill to make money graduate or not graduate grab the opportunity
But it would really be that so bad on instilling into your mind that education wont really be that an important thing about being successful. It is really just that those people who do become multi-millionaires or billionaires
came from hard work isnt really that something easy for the path that they had taken. We cant really deny that having course or having educational background does really give out that kind of advantage compare to those who have none but since there are really various life conditions on which it is really just that hard or something that cant be avoided then for sure you would really be definitely be ending up whether you would fail or succeed but never ever put up into your mind that education is shit or useless.

Be grateful that your parents do really able to afford on sending you to school or universities on which it is really that a good thing for you to have. It might not be giving out that success guarantees
but at least you do able to get or acquired those knowledge on which it would really be something that could be helping you out on onto your future endeavors
on which comparing to those who do lack studies or knowledge then you do able to point out on some key differences.
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Here in my country, knowledge is just like something you acquire, definetly everyone is expected to acquire knowledge. But the ability to make money does not depend on your education status. Most billoniara in my country didn't even have a 1st degree satificate and sometimes seeing all this discourages the young graduate with no job and now nobody wants to talk about education, everyone looking for money. What am trying to say is if you have the opportunity and the skill to make money graduate or not graduate grab the opportunity
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Knowledge and experience are necessary things to become rich or live in better conditions. Education alone is not enough for a person to live in good conditions. Education has many advantages, but it is not possible to live comfortably with the money earned from education.
The aim of education is to seek knowledge and make everyone smarter in certain fields so that this can be a little helpful for everyone who wants to use that knowledge in life or when they run a business in the long term. Meanwhile, experience can be formed when each person has been in a job for a long time and they will gain this over time.

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Many people are looking for additional work. The reason they look for additional work is to increase their income. The advantage of education in this respect is that it creates an advantage in getting used to learning new things more quickly. Those who use this advantage can find ways to increase their income.
That is a quite natural reason and also quite logical for everyone, because when everyone has found an additional job with a fairly sufficient income, they no longer worry about the difficulties they have to face in life. So it is necessary to help each of them and those who have special education, of course it will be easier to adapt to environmental conditions and to take advantage of certain opportunities to get work.
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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up

One thing that I have noticed is that people will kind of criticize you when you have a job like in supermarkets or food chains even if you have a degree. I do have a friend of mine that works on a food chain where the salary is at minimum wage and mostly when his aunt or some of his schoolmates ask why he needs to work on that establishment even though he has a degree that friend of mine has no choice as he has a family to feed. People's expectations are too high when it comes to degree holders as they think that they will have a great chance of having a job with a high salary which again won't depend on you and the company where you are working.
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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up
There seems to be a misunderstanding of the highest degree or education, and the purpose of it should be straightened out. I mean, is everyone who pursues a degree aiming to get a big income? There is nothing wrong with that, but we must return to the main purpose of why there is an education. If we're talking about a degree for a higher income then I don't think it's the right thing to do. In my place there are many people who have high degrees, but their income is not as big as people who do not have degrees.
If we think of having a degree to get and work in a big company, I think that's the wrong mindset. Why not think about building your own company?
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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Just getting more titles because you think you will get more money later is only a good idea. The first step should always be to check the current job requirements. Is it really necessary to get advanced degrees for your desired job? Let's assume you already have a bachelor degree in a STEM fields and think about a master or PhD before starting to work. For most jobs this is not really necessary and is not going to lead to a higher salary. For many employers the titles only show that you are willing to put in effort to learn new things, but after that it becomes much more important to get work experience than theoretical knowhow. After a few years in your job it's all about your contacts and what you actually earn for the company. A fancy title is not a guarantee to become rich over time. Another aspect is that studying can be quite expensive depending on the country you live in. It's not only the title t itself, but also housing and food cost for another 2-3 years. Then on top of that you need to consider the money you lose our on if you were already working. In most cases it just doesn't pay off.
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September 30, 2023, 05:13:47 PM
Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up

Currently there are many graduates so competition is getting tougher. I think academic degrees are no longer that important, especially in the digital world, anyone who has skills and experience will have the opportunity to get a good job. However, if we don't have an academic degree, our chances of getting a good job will be smaller.

If we want to compete then we need to improve our skills and abilities. The world of work is getting crueler and competition is getting tougher

In some country that might be true that academic degree is not really important, and maybe companies doesn't require that nowadays. But at least in where I live, (and maybe some other countries too) most companies are still require related academic degree when they are looking for employee, even in tech and creative related job. However, I think it's just for formality, but the companies will still considering more about the portfolio and experience rather than just academic degree.
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September 30, 2023, 05:04:38 PM
I know many many people are claiming degrees are useless: statistically they are not. Nearly in all countries when you have higher educational degree its more likely you land a better job. Yeah obviously all jobs pay very bad nowadays but its more of issue within economy where laborers are getting much less share of gross domestic product... I think if you have time and resources to get a degree - well, do it. It can also help you meet with people with better connection in campus you know.
I agree with you that if we have the capital or facilities to continue our education to a higher level then entering and continuing our education is also a pretty good thing. As long as we have enough finances to support the costs of academic education. As you said, sometimes we can build connections with many great people on campus. Like Mark Zuckerberg, who actually has acquaintances or friends he knew from where he studied who supported him in funding the development of Facebook (Sorry if I'm wrong but I think I've read his story about that). That is the importance of relationships or connections in building a business. And it can be built while we study at university.

I see some people making gest of education but they don't understand the difference between been educated and going to school. It's obvious everyone pass through school where education is taught but not everyone lives with education, even if you don't have job after passing through school doesn't mean that school is a total waste, there are moral lessons that you learn school that can never be taken away from you, there are valuable lesson as basic education you get in school that you never get from home, you learn some through your teacher, through your friends and through group discussion, that is what you don't get when you stay at home.


Elon Musk is worship for been successful, Zuckerberg is been respected for their contributions on revolutionizing the internet but check very well, half of what they are showing us are actually done by the educated guys who came out best in their class, it's their problem effort we see that these things that are shown to us are successful but the credit goes to the main character who pay them because they have what the good guys need which obviously is the money. Elon Musk didn't build Tesla alone, 90% of the work is a collective effort, Zuckerberg didn't bring Facebook to this frame, developers contribute that idea and that is because of good education. We need to get that straight and make society understand that education is still the best way for income.
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September 30, 2023, 01:05:48 PM
Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up

Currently there are many graduates so competition is getting tougher. I think academic degrees are no longer that important, especially in the digital world, anyone who has skills and experience will have the opportunity to get a good job. However, if we don't have an academic degree, our chances of getting a good job will be smaller.

If we want to compete then we need to improve our skills and abilities. The world of work is getting crueler and competition is getting tougher
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September 30, 2023, 12:40:31 PM
Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up
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September 30, 2023, 12:20:16 PM
Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Society wants you to be informed. Books, schools, all kinds of courses and certificates. It does not advise you to take risks. And that is true up to a point. To have enough income to live independently you need a profession. And we can do that through schools. You can't be happy when you're hungry. So my thoughts are for those who have graduated from colleges and universities. If you are still studying, continue.

Let's imagine someone who has spent his whole life with books but has remained asocial. He is probably very knowledgeable. He analyzes you very well, quotes famous philosophers, is generally thoughtful. But this is not real life. Real life asks you to fight.
I'm not trivializing knowledge, I'm arguing that ignorance is a disaster, i just think it's more important to live than to be informed.
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September 30, 2023, 12:13:07 PM
Getting a degree should be a bare minimum to all of us. You won’t instantly get rich but atleast you won’t fall under the average earners. But if you want to get rich then engage with investments and businesses. However, if you’re one with us who does not have the privilege then you have to create your own and in order to do that you also have to get a decent job to be able to save for your future investments. Only a few became rich because of profession but there are many who quite won in life because they opened their path towards investments. Also, education won’t end with the degree; it would also reflect to your success because education will help you with decision making and with ethics as well.
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September 30, 2023, 10:09:36 AM
I agree with you that if we have the capital or facilities to continue our education to a higher level then entering and continuing our education is also a pretty good thing. As long as we have enough finances to support the costs of academic education. As you said, sometimes we can build connections with many great people on campus. Like Mark Zuckerberg, who actually has acquaintances or friends he knew from where he studied who supported him in funding the development of Facebook (Sorry if I'm wrong but I think I've read his story about that). That is the importance of relationships or connections in building a business. And it can be built while we study at university.
Some people consider education to be one of the foundations of their life and they will pursue as high an education as possible even though there are limited costs for continuing it. Education can shape people's character for the better and can also lead someone to the opposite. Education can provide higher knowledge to anyone and they can also expand their connections and can make them achieve a level of success with extensive relationships.

Like the example you gave to Mark Zuckerberg, even though his success was not academic, it was because of his education that he got to know his colleagues and build Facebook bigger together with his friends. Education can lead a person to achieve success and although the path to success can vary.
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September 30, 2023, 10:08:26 AM
The education alone not give you the good income,because many graduate was doing the food delivery job in many countries.The person who studied with the guy who working in the food delivery will became a millionaire.So the reason is not the education,the reason is the applying skill of the education was the master move here.Now the job was all around the world by the mean of freelancing,you no need to go Dubai to work for the Dubai now.The person who ready to work,will have enough job in the online.

Each of these things has a clear goal, because education will only make someone smarter, although it does not guarantee that someone will become richer. Meanwhile, those who work for money will become millionaires if someone is able to turn their income into valuable capital to build their own business with the aim of becoming rich.

This means that both of these things can both produce useful effects and not be in vain, because if someone is rich, they are not smart enough to manage their business or money. Slowly, that person will also fall into poverty, either because they are cheated by other people or because they are unable to compete due to the current uncertain economic conditions. So both really need to be applied to life so that knowledge and experience in any case are very useful in order to become a millionaire in life.

Knowledge and experience are necessary things to become rich or live in better conditions. Education alone is not enough for a person to live in good conditions. Education has many advantages, but it is not possible to live comfortably with the money earned from education.

Many people are looking for additional work. The reason they look for additional work is to increase their income. The advantage of education in this respect is that it creates an advantage in getting used to learning new things more quickly. Those who use this advantage can find ways to increase their income.
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September 30, 2023, 09:40:33 AM
The education alone not give you the good income,because many graduate was doing the food delivery job in many countries.The person who studied with the guy who working in the food delivery will became a millionaire.So the reason is not the education,the reason is the applying skill of the education was the master move here.Now the job was all around the world by the mean of freelancing,you no need to go Dubai to work for the Dubai now.The person who ready to work,will have enough job in the online.

Each of these things has a clear goal, because education will only make someone smarter, although it does not guarantee that someone will become richer. Meanwhile, those who work for money will become millionaires if someone is able to turn their income into valuable capital to build their own business with the aim of becoming rich.

This means that both of these things can both produce useful effects and not be in vain, because if someone is rich, they are not smart enough to manage their business or money. Slowly, that person will also fall into poverty, either because they are cheated by other people or because they are unable to compete due to the current uncertain economic conditions. So both really need to be applied to life so that knowledge and experience in any case are very useful in order to become a millionaire in life.
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September 30, 2023, 08:17:45 AM
I know many many people are claiming degrees are useless: statistically they are not. Nearly in all countries when you have higher educational degree its more likely you land a better job. Yeah obviously all jobs pay very bad nowadays but its more of issue within economy where laborers are getting much less share of gross domestic product... I think if you have time and resources to get a degree - well, do it. It can also help you meet with people with better connection in campus you know.
I agree with you that if we have the capital or facilities to continue our education to a higher level then entering and continuing our education is also a pretty good thing. As long as we have enough finances to support the costs of academic education. As you said, sometimes we can build connections with many great people on campus. Like Mark Zuckerberg, who actually has acquaintances or friends he knew from where he studied who supported him in funding the development of Facebook (Sorry if I'm wrong but I think I've read his story about that). That is the importance of relationships or connections in building a business. And it can be built while we study at university.
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September 30, 2023, 03:26:53 AM
I know many many people are claiming degrees are useless: statistically they are not. Nearly in all countries when you have higher educational degree its more likely you land a better job. Yeah obviously all jobs pay very bad nowadays but its more of issue within economy where laborers are getting much less share of gross domestic product... I think if you have time and resources to get a degree - well, do it. It can also help you meet with people with better connection in campus you know.
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September 30, 2023, 03:14:17 AM
I am planning to take a master's degree because I think that it's gonna be tougher in the next years about being employed and you just can't be sure with the company that you're working on even if you've been working for them for several years. I know that loyalty gets rewarded but that's not enough for an individual to get assurance that he won't be replaced due to the advancement of technology especially with AI. In my country, I'm not just so sure why everyone is scared of that, and taking impact is like what I've been absorbing for the past months because I am just uncertain. Whether you have a bachelor's degree or a master's degree, you still are unsure of what's gonna happen with your career. A lot in the different industries are career shifting and that's making the job market saturated and crowded so, I'm just trying to go with the trend but hopefully I can push for my masters if opportunity allows it.
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There are educated people who are not earning a well suited amount even having degrees and there are some uneducated or less educated people who are earning maximum amount per month so this implies that your earning abilities are not related to your degrees but sometimes skills become more valuable than degrees.

Although having degree can enhances your chances of finding a job but the salaries of today's job is not enough for a family therefore try to find more option. Teachers, doctors, engineer and many others have degrees and earn money but people with less education involved in online earning are more satisfied because their job is comfortable. Degrees never select your destiny but its luck that move you towards a successful terminus.

      There are so many people here in our country who are all degree holders but hang out in their homes. It's not easy to get a job here; 
the competition is fierce because the basis of the companies that most applicants apply for is whether the college you graduated from is reputable, did you complete a high course, and are you always looking for a pleasing personality? And I can add that the sports system sometimes happens; if you have a backup person in the company you are applying to, that will be an advantage right away.

      This is the battle here in our country. The other years that have passed since they graduated have not yet been accepted among those
who applied. So, in short, you are lucky if you get hired for a job.
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September 29, 2023, 06:45:34 PM
I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

The education alone not give you the good income,because many graduate was doing the food delivery job in many countries.The person who studied with the guy who working in the food delivery will became a millionaire.So the reason is not the education,the reason is the applying skill of the education was the master move here.Now the job was all around the world by the mean of freelancing,you no need to go Dubai to work for the Dubai now.The person who ready to work,will have enough job in the online.
even applying the education towards the working field aren't as easy as it pictured out to be.
here's the thing, sometime academic curriculum are so outdated they don't even have place in real work situation, most of the time its just theory and you'll learn something new along the way when you're start working which have zero relation to the academic curiculum presented to you when you are still in college. therefore it most certainly not enough if you want to build your career.
when it comes to entreprenurship it becomes even more irrelevant.
the reason why many bachelor are just working minimum wage job because having bachelor degree aren't anything special anymore, quite literally everyone has it, so if you're not in ivy league big chance you will just outright working minimum wages.
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