Topic: Is academic pursues enough to get incomes? - page 3. (Read 1932 times)

Academic pursues can make so many things easy for the degree holders in a particular countries that value degree, because they know what it takes for such students to achieve all those degrees than to do what will make the person to be rejoicing from the rest of his life and to encourage others that have the same hunger for such degree in the country. Anywhere degree holders feel like settle down to make income, they are well received base on that qualifications they have, because many organization knew that if you have such degrees holders in your company, your company will not remain the same, show that such companies will change positively at the moment. Those that dedicated their time to pursue such degree in the country, I don't think government will allow them to struggle to make income than to create some atmosphere where they will be receiving huge amount of income weekly or monthly.

Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self

this one is true, if the cost of university is affordable enough there's nothing wrong to get a degree, but if the cost is too high that it makes you in debt with $100k that you need to pays back maybe we should rethink the decision, there are some applied skills that can be learned through bootcamps or something like that, university is a must, but if its a law degree and even medical then university is necessary but I would bet that majority of people out there, getting degree for the sake of getting degree, basically studying the most obscure and abstract major there is and get entagled in debt.
only study and get a degree for a field that truly prospective in my opinion, after all we pay hefty amount to get that education.

Although we can not deny that there is definitely some truth to the idea that education can lead to better job opportunities but one needs to consider the local economy and job market. If there are limited job opportunities in a particular area then even a highly educated person might have a hard time finding work. Considering the cost of education is also necessary. In some cases, people might go into debt in order to get a degree and then find out that there are no enough job opportunities to justify the cost. It might just be better to consider other options like vocational training or apprenticeships if the chances of getting a job is very slim.

On the contrary, what some people consider is the value of education beyond just getting a job because education can also provide personal enrichment and growth, and can lead to more fulfilling work and a better quality of life and even if someone doesn't end up getting a high paying job after getting a degree, they may still benefit from the experience.

Academic pursues play a good role in getting your job and if you are looking towards businesses then just academic pursues are not enough because experience is also crucial in getting a job. According to my experience there are lots of individuals who have obtained degrees but they are still at home without any job. The reason behind this can also be the presence of minimum jobs and huge population so every individual cannot get their desired job or may be educated people are not accepting every job easily.

Getting a degree is not basic thing but the actual thing is that how much you learned in your student life. If you have degree and you remembered all knowledge that you have learned then you can easily find your job because those who are graduated are more preferred in all jobs than individuals with lower education.

In my personal opinion, getting a degree does not completely guarantee that someone's financial situation will be better. Because in this modern era, it's useless if, for example, you have a degree but don't have innovation and good knowledge (not improved). Because competition in life is getting tighter day by day. Therefore, even those who have a degree or rank such as a bachelor will definitely still have difficulties if they do not have good innovation. Because you need to remember, learning in universities and the reality on the ground always tend to have differences. So it is possible that someone who has a degree will have difficulties when they go directly into the field. Because what I know now is that what is more important is not just the degrees , but what is most important is knowledge and innovation. Because of the big companies that exist today such as Google, Apple and Intel. don't always have to use a diploma to apply for jobs at these companies.

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This means that potential, innovation and experience are very important even if you don't have a college degree. So the conclusion I can come to is that having a degree does not always guarantee someone will be more financially prosperous. But it is knowledge, experience and innovation that play a more important role in making someone more financially prosperous.

On point! education is very important but this is not the only way for success, I know so many successful individual/ businessman who doesn't have a degree from the start before they become successful, it's all about perseverance, talent and their natural skills, However when the time goes by, they need to enroll in a college to get a degree so that they will learn more how to manage their businesses  and to improve confidence in business world.

Yes, there's an advantage when you know how to communicate well both verbally and in writings such skills give you a decent opportunity
to speak out your knowledge and can bring you to the position you like to be.

Having a degree or good education gives you that edge against those who can't afford but not necessary means that you always take the place.

As there are also people who are good in actual setup even there's no degree behind them once they are being asked to perform
they can do it without any hesitations.

Indeed, education is very important, but it is not a criterion for success. A person can make money from different source which is not related at all to his academic discipline. One thing i must say is that academic knowledge helps to manage wealth. After having all the wealth if you don't have good knowledge on calculations; simple algebraic and arithmetic, statistics and probability then it may hinder your progress. Also, if you lack communication skills and writing skills then it would be worst. So, this is the reason why educations are important for any pursuit in life.

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for example of a big country like the US, where the unemployment rate for graduates is 4,1% as of April 2023. meanwhile, in my country, it's 8,3% in the latest update. Some people might think there are a lot of unemployed folks because they didn't land recognized jobs, but the truth is they're still earning.

When you decide to pursue education solely for the purpose of getting a job, it seems like a template followed by many, sorry if I see it as a realistic robot-like approach. I prefer someone who learns with the aim of gaining knowledge and lets jobs that require knowledgeable individuals come to them.

Make the company apply to you, not you who apply to the company. This is the level where you will truly have more value than the average person.

Correct and actually nowadays , students and youngsters love taking short courses such as vocational courses so they can join work faster to earn money .

My second son don't wanna go to University now instead he wanted to take trading courses Online so he can use the skills sooner (because he admires me having crypto investment)
so yes it is not about actually academic but also the ability and the mindset of the student.

It depends on the position where work through the academic route is quite needed in your country, but when this route has little opportunity then to reach the financial stage depends on how you can look for opportunities. Education basically does not guarantee a decent job, but education should be the basis for someone to achieve what they want and education will make it easier for them to find relationships and create job opportunities for themselves and others.

There is no percentage that we can show that when someone has a higher degree it can guarantee a decent job for him and there is still quite a large percentage of college graduates who are unemployed? Return to the opportunities that exist in your country or maybe you dare to leave your comfort zone and look for work in another country that has greater opportunities in the education sector. The consideration is that there are many risks that you have to take when trying to risk your fate in another country. Education should be able to create jobs from any sector without limitations and if the mindset still hopes to work in someone else's place it does not show the attitude of someone who has a high education.

I think that's normal to be choosy when it comes to jobs because some companies give their employees lowballs or low salaries as they are not yet aware of that in the working industry, you can manage that once you get interviewed. Of course, if you are freshly graduated you need to gather experience first in the working industry, so desiring a highly paying job at your first job wouldn't sound good. Diplomas and degrees just show that you have studied for years for a certain course that is related to some job so if you applied for some company they would be aware of the knowledge you have so they would hire you. But yeah, once you are getting well paid, having alternate money sources by simply building a small business could get you to attain the financial freedom you are trying to achieve. For sure you wouldn't like to work your ass off for a very long time, much better to retire early to spend time with your family.

The answer is it depend. What degree, what university, what cost... Certain countries have reached a point in which Uni no longer makes sense, it is much better to get a basic degree and join a company that develops the people or get directly into business and learn as you need. Some countries however offer cheaper education and then is fine to have a degree - you can then go to another country and make more money.

And it is a treasure that will never be stolen. That's always the case for most parents and that's what they're telling their kids and now we're going to apply this to our kids then.

It's actually nice to have such academic achievements because you're with the standard with most of the companies. But many companies today are changing that standard and their ways of hiring employees.

It's nice to have and a must have but if you're one of the kind like those billionaires or trillionaires that owns a lot of companies, you're special and you might even don't need one.

Having higher educational attainment is what our parents really that trying for us to reach as much as they could, we know that this is something a weapon on which you could really be able to make yourself established in the near future.We know that even there are people who do become that successful when it comes to business or investment but still they do really be able to make themselves not having no assurance that they would really be able to be continuous to be successful and this is why on having that educational attainment would really be that a helpful thing for you since this is something that wont really be taken from you.
In case you do fail on business then you could have the option to find some job since you are really that capable on doing so just because you do have a degree.

Although it wont be assurance on getting hired but at least you do have that advantage compared to those who dont have a degree. We know that there are tons of industries who do really require
employees on which it would really be that a normal approach in todays on which means that you could really be having always that back up plans
in case things turns out to be shit.

Having atain a greater hight in educational qualifications is not really bad, but excess of it becomes a problem. Many people just want to be honoured for their educational qualification or academic excellent, there by optaining more and more without thinking otherwise. Morover all what ever you read in life will just end up in a paper, and if you are Dead it becomes useless to your family. I think it's good to aquare degree and knowledge about a certain field and put it in practice to make a reasonable thing that will be useful. Who knows you might discover or invent something that will be useful to every body and you will never be forgotten, from generation to generation. Rather than reading an still never got recognized. Mack zugaberg was never a too much degree holder, but his invention of Facebook has been a legacy.


There is never a time a degree can put food to your table. Life is all about degree but how smart you are. Having degree and skill will put food to your table than only degree. If you are studying to come and search for job, you are really joking. Sometimes why excess degree holdera always have problem of employment, is that they appear more educated than the job itself. So a greedy type in an office will not employ you, knowing true well you are overqualified for the job and you might be a threat to him if employed.

Agree. A degree indicates that we have studied, because a degree does not guarantee someone's success. Because quite a few people already have degrees, the problem is not not having a job but rather the desire to work for a high wage. And sometimes, with their diplomas, they don't want to work and work for small wages, so it's not uncommon for many of those with degrees to become unemployed and have no income, instead they only have expenses.

A degree should not be used as a benchmark for where he wants to work, but he must be able to create his own business by relying on technological developments, because currently there are many opportunities for success. If you only rely on companies or the government, your degree will be in vain.

I agree with you, any high degree in my opinion will not be able to provide a decent job for us, because as far as I know the degree is just an addition to our last name, although behind it there is a struggle to get it but getting a decent job is the real struggle. the degree does not guarantee for our lives, there are also companies that prefer people who have skills but do not have any degrees, because what they need is real work, not just talk.

It's true that you said skills and knowledge that can provide a good job for us, because if it's not wrong degrees can also be bought. so if for example someone has a lot of money but doesn't want to be tired to get a degree they can buy it, that's the news in my country. So I myself don't think too much about degrees if I have good skills I believe in joining a company rather than with a high degree but no good skills or skills it's the same lie. Because what many people need is good skills not a high degree that is prioritized.

OP, the answer is no, practically the most successful people on earth does not have much degree to show, I am encouraging anyone but the fact is school can't make you rich or even add more money to your pocket, put this into consideration how much do they pay a lecturer or even a university don, I mean a professor, this things doesn't work that way, if you decide to get degree as much as you want, am not against it but you feeling that your degree will put you ahead of people who doesn't have much degree as you have, will amount to a high level on anyone side, for me, school is just their to make you go through a stage in life to learn some ideas as for the money aspect, nothing of such.