Topic: Is academic pursues enough to get incomes? - page 9. (Read 1926 times)

Education makes a person better; that's very basic. However, getting a degree means you add another layer of knowledge, which can give you a better advantage over your competitors who don't have a degree. However, do consider the country you are living in, as the economy of a country can significantly affect how valuable your degree is.

For example, if you are living in a poor country, it's presumed that the unemployment rate is high. Even worse is if underemployment is also prevalent, as this would make your degree less valuable due to few jobs created but many people with degrees looking for employment.

Based on my personal experience, I find it more ideal to start a business than to look for a job due to the income difference, though the former may seem riskier. On the other hand, if you still want to use your degree, it's better to go overseas and work in countries where salary rates are good, so at least you can be justified for the hard work you put into earning your degree.

Gaining education is very good as it builds you the confidence to communicate and engage with people of different backgrounds  works of life and one of such importance of being educated can be related to members in the forum as without haven been educated at some point we won't be having this conversation or discussion.

Education is this current dispensation is underrated due to the lack of available white collar jobs and with the advancement of technology which has brought a paradigm shift from white collar jobs to technical and skills based jobs that's why people have to be watchful of the needs and opportunities available in their respective society before moving on to acquire a particular degree in a certain field for them to stay relevant and guaranteed of making income from it.

People often times makes the mistake of acquiring degrees in fields that the services are no longer invoke or scout hence the reason for many unemployed graduates. It therefore makes it important for universities and the government to scrap or sanitize some academic disciplines that are no more of any value in this current phase of the human existence.

The problem could be that the government isn't employing the right people especially that they are suppose to be the biggest employers of a country..

Secondly, if the government isn't proactive in the employment exercise, then the private sector is employing its people using nepotism and not taking into account one's qualifications..but don't give up as skilled labor is what it takes to help in the development of a country and sooner or later the graduates will be called up to fill the void.

And this is were it all goes wrong, without any experience whatsoever, people want to be paid the most money which isn't right...a life hack to this is to forget about the degree to tone down the pride lol, get into the labor force and allow yourself to get the needed experience and see your skillset become the most sort after & money follow you... Slow but steady wins the race.

Education was at a time, a distinct requirement if you planned on getting a white collar job that pays handsomely. Over time, the importance of education has declined as employers are increasingly concerned with hiring the best staff available that can actually do the job and that’s where skills and technical know-how comes into play.

Our colleges and universities are constantly producing new graduates but the labor market isn’t always ready to make room for new arrivals hence the rise in unemployment rates.
As there are more qualified workers than there are available jobs, the employer has the luxury of choice and would be looking out from loads of applicants, for someone having required skills and training alongside a degree.

Things like this we should also realise that basically taking a major is important.
Academics even though it is something very good but in the end when the creativity of a student is developed then I think in this case he also knows what he has to do.
In some developed countries we have also often seen when in the end there are some non-academic conditions that can be used as a basis or reference for enthusiasts such as sports in football academies etc. or in matters of art but that does not mean that those who are here also eliminate education just like that because we must be aware that education is still important, it's just that the portion is less than the field of interest.

I think all universities have their own departments, you can choose one that suits your passion, talent and interest. So if you like sports then go to a university that has a sports department or other sports. So at a university the task is to provide lessons according to the major chosen by the student, for example you take economics, politics or law. If campuses have to teach students everything then majors will be useless and there will be no special abilities

In my opinion, good or bad a university will not shackle our brains. Nowadays there is the internet and we learn a lot there. Blaming a bad campus won't mean anything, but if we have a good study pattern then wherever we are we will always know how to study.

yeah sometime the academic system is just outright shit in some countries out there, considering the fact that we are paying for these college degree and the learning from it, even using kinda outdated curriculum is already massive waste of time. imagine wasting years just to learn something that actually shouldn't be learned at all because outdated.
but it still undenied fact that college degree is still gateway to open up better career because its just the requirement for many jobs out there that are white collar.
you just follow the system and thats it, you can build your career up despite feeling silly.

As I have ready mentioned that ,  with having a better education,  universities should also take care of there students physical activities. Regarding this matter,  if a student is not good at its academic session and he wants to be an athlete,  how could he express himself in a University where the university is only focusing on his academic skills or academic career? And same example is a student who wants himself on some other areas of competition,  he should also gives the same skills training or knowledge,  that whenever he is going to some tough competition ,  he would be selected there and can give a tough time.

I'm just expressing universities of our country,  may be in other countries it is not going to do the same. Because every country has its own system of education.

Any education is definitely useful, especially education at university level. Lectures will provide an opening to thoughts and ways of learning, the level of education on campus is different from high school. Someone who has become a graduate should have their own way and pattern of learning because the education system is adult education (andragogy). However, if students mostly cheat and copy paper assignments, it means they don't have a learning pattern and it is their own fault.


As long as their talent is not banned then it is fine. I think you are too dependent on the state and want to be given facilities. If you have talent then develop it as long as no one forbids it then there is no problem

In my own opinion going to school or being educated doesn’t determine how successful one can be. They are lot of school dropouts who are still successful in their field. The world has evolve to the point where one can get schooled  online and using YouTube. YouTube has really been a help in solving problems, they are online business that can generate money for both the educated and uneducated people, with just learning and mastering a skill online can generate wealth for a person without any educational qualifications. Even though being educated is very important but with the current unemployment situation of the country a lot of young professional dreams are dying. People no longer see the need of going to school because of this.
 In a country like the USA going to college is not a do or die thing, a lot of people chose not go to college but rather prefer  pursue other dreams. They are lot of talented young people in the world. The world richest footballer (Cristiano Ronaldo) didn’t have any educational qualifications to gain his wealth. We don’t need academic qualifications to gain wealth. There are lot of ways of earning in the internet. People work remotely now learning skills on Udemy or YouTube to build their skill.

Universities and colleges in our country just wasting students time,  mostly the students do copy from each other in these universities,  and also after they get some degree then they are not able to work according to the company and according to the manager's need.

Another thing they should watch out is wasting young generation talent by not giving them much opportunities in other things. They are telling students to only do the studies,  but not other physical activities,  which is not good at all. They should also consider a student's physical activities as well as their improved studies.

This is a battle that has been around for a long time and often occurs in several countries, because what companies need are workers who are smart enough and have had experience before someone graduates from college. Companies will always consider these two things in their prospective employees, because being intelligent with theory alone will not be enough if someone does not have experience in the field required by the company. Vice versa, so that each person must have a certain level of intelligence and experience that he gained through his work in the past or when he was still studying, so that when he graduates, the company can immediately consider that person as a new employee and place him in the most suitable field.

If we think in that direction, it really seems unfair. But for someone who is fighting to get a job, I don't think there is a need to look at that direction as a barrier, because that could be a door to enter a company. I think everyone will also look for ways to get closer to people who are already in the company so that they can offer themselves to become employees there by showing some of the achievements they have achieved in the past. And also each person will tell about their own experience in the field required by the company so that the qualifications required by the company can be truly appropriate.

Sad reality, really. However, I would like to add that these days having a good educational background wouldn't even cut it anymore. No matter how good your completed course is and what prestige university you came from, most companies and businesses nowadays requires a lot of things from their employees before they even hire them. I remember a discussion here in our country that received a lot of feedbacks and opinions from the general people regarding the over demanding requirements needed to apply for a relatively small salary job, applicants for the position were expected to be a graduate of a four-year Bachelor's degree and have good experiences on their field. However, if you look at the offered salary it obviously isn't enough, it's even lower than minimum.

Thing is, these days having good educational background isn't enough to land someone a job.

There are tons of universities offering it but the problem is only if you have money and also time because mostly those people who are taking it say that either they have money or no time to go to school but for us like no money and also busy working because we have a family to feed. I know you need to make sacrifices if you plan to have a degree whether online or in actual school because youll be busy on something aside from going to school so you manage to have time for it and sacrifice others.

There are tons of jobs that open to you when you have a degree but this only depends on what kind of degree you have because others tend to find a job with a huge salary by just being self-taught.

I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.

The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is

have to add that getting bachelor degree even masters all the way up to the peak is relatively easy these days, and what I mean is the acomodation, there are quite literally so many online bachelor degree available for many that are already working but stuck at highschool diploma and its relatively flexible scheduling too which means its true that at least getting a degree should be bare minimum. there just simply no excuse to not take one.
at least with degree it opens up opportunity that we initially doesn't have and thats enough for us to build career from scratch.
otherwise with highschool diploma, there's nothing massive in term of opportunity that we can take.

It might not need to be a degree probably just a vocational course would be enough to learn about income and finances how you going to manage it something like investment how you going to get financial freedom etc. I just think that it is what the educational system doesn't teach us how we are going to manage our finances and how are we going to invest, insurance and everything, it almost seems like we are getting programs after our education so that we would just become an employee, not something like starting a business something like that.

In my personal experience having this kind of knowledge about finances is really a good help since it did change a lot since I changed my mindset when it comes to my finances, I take it very seriously and budget my salary and make sure that I have multiple sources of income in order to make a good saving and positively invest in the future to a passive income or something like a business, i just listens to a lot of podcast about financial and eventually learned a lot about it and apply it to my financial as well.

No matter how low people can talk against degree these days. It does not mean that degree doesn't have a good effect in the society anymore. There are some countries where the prestige of having a college degree is gradually diminishing while in some countries, having a degree will give you a good job and also ensure your promotion throughout your working period.

People with higher degree acquires higher officers in their workplace and then fatter salary while the technicians without degrees who actually are the people that execute the work do not earn much. This is the reason people encourage children to go to the college and acquire degree.

But in the international standard the world is moving away from degree. It is about the ability to solve problems and make money. You may have degree and your degree may not be recognised in another country. So you will be internationally irrelevant

Lol. In my own country the rhythm is everywhere... School na scam...celebrities add juice to it in music. You can imagine where a history and international student working as an accountant, a first class degree holder is in the street looking for the side that is greener. As a graduate of a university it seems as though you starting life afresh, thereby discouraging the younger ones who are looking up to you, to drop out of school and acquire a meaningful skill. But in a well advanced countries that values education, reverse is the case. Education is the key no doubt, it exposes you to greater opportunities and experiences of life. If you find yourself in a country that values education, its advisable to further your education and  acquire more degrees but if you find yourself in my kinda country and you're opportune to study, go ahead and study and simply back it up with a skill that will keep you going when you turn a graduate. I'm a living witness.

If your ideas to being schooled and getting a degree revolves around working for people in offices or sites, then you might as well be having a wrong education. It’s just a matter of the few finding these jobs as, you rightly said, there are no jobs and in most instances, jobs when available aren’t announced but, linked by those already in the system to desired applicants.

While getting schooled and some education, be well aware that you could as well create jobs that would employ others.

One thing also that kills the system is the lack of specialization. Where you could find someone from a different field. Seeking jobs outside his area of specialization. It damages the system even more and makes invalid the learned skill.

Education doesn’t promise you everything but rather offers you the opportunity to create something.