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legendary
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September 28, 2023, 10:14:51 AM
#78
There is no guarantee that if you get more academic degrees, you can get a bigger salary than others if you don't have much experience in the field.

Yes, having many academic degrees will help us better our chances when competing with others when going for interviews. But to be able to ask for a high salary, degree is not enough, what businesses need is experience, working skills and results. That's why businesses always ask for experience when interviewing.

But so far, offices have considered someone with more academic degrees acceptable to them, especially if they study abroad.

This depends on the vacancy as well as the company's needs. I saw study abroad applicants rejected and experienced candidates selected when I worked in the office.

Amid job competition like today, having more academic degrees is not enough because someone must also have many skills and work experience.

This is what many students are suffering from, they have the illusion that just by having a degree, they can get a high paying job. But what they don't know is that getting a degree isn't that difficult and they aren't the only ones with degrees. They are living in a highly competitive environment, so a degree without experience is useless.
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September 28, 2023, 09:33:02 AM
#77
Academic is important, but working experience, internship, study exchange, network, organization, competition, project and any other thing that can improve your ability are more important than academic. This is why most of fresh graduated are very hard to seek jobs, they only offer their academic certificate to the company and expect they will accept you? what's the difference with other people that also same like you?
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September 28, 2023, 07:46:20 AM
#76
Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
I think they will stand a better chance if they're on the same level playground without a higher power influencing for anyone without the same paper qualification. However, acquiring a skill is better than having a paper qualification. What paper qualification will do in an overwhelming unemployment situation is to give the holder a bragging right while the one who has a skill gets the job.

The more educated a person is, the more protected he is. Yes, it is probably difficult to get a well-paid job right away, but there is always a difference in who and what you can do. A person without education can be used in any direction, knowing that he will still not be able to stand up for himself since he is not educated.
What you've described is an ideal situation. Sadly, that's not the case in practical term. I may not know what's obtainable in real time abroad apart from what I watch on cable or read online about life in developed climes. If I judge by what is around me in Africa, I know it's way below. In Africa, apart from having the ability to read and write, most so called educated people aren't much different from their illiterate neighbours. I live in a country where educated people act worse during elections and religious activities (especially in church), with their view points disappointedly uninspiring and backward. I may lack the right expression for what I'm labouring to say here but the bottom line is that the whole "I'm educated" stuff thing shouldn't be taken at face value. Test people to know their ability. Most people who are scammed in my country aren't the illiterate ones but the greedy educated folks.
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September 28, 2023, 07:10:00 AM
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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
The difference is the skill set that one has to acquire during the course of the degree. This will differ depending on the type of the degree and the types of jobs that degree can get you. Not everything will be taught to you in course work but some you need to learn on your own that can help you set up your own name, brand and outreach, getting my idea?

It is the reason why two people have the same degree but are successful to a different extent or landing up differently paying jobs.

I always stress the importance of a degree, there is no alternative to it, but additional skills like communication, patience, problem solving need to be developed which can allow you to stand out.
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September 28, 2023, 07:09:18 AM
#74
I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Whether you get a job in your country depends on many things. The most important aspect is the economic stability of your country. Other things that should be noted are the scope of your degree in your country and competition for job accusation. It also depends on how you have studied for your degrees and do you have the required skills that are needed to secure the job.

You should try to gain more experience and skills in your field so that you can compete with your fellow citizens for the job. Try to improve your communication skills. If your ultimate life goal is to earn money, then a job will get you nothing, try your luck in business and invest in stocks and Bitcoin.
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September 28, 2023, 07:07:29 AM
#73
I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Before diving Into this education and being self employed, I put into consideration long term plans and goals that can be achieved with whatever I am into. If it'll be for the betterment in the next twenty years I am in but no, out.
Whichever way works out for you do it with all you might and strength. But getting degrees lately are meaningless the world is gradually turning digitalized and if you don't get a degree in these areas you're spending time and squander money on such degrees that gibes you nothing.
Unemployment on the high rise and yet, too many people are still in for degrees. Degrees are not everything.
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September 28, 2023, 06:57:24 AM
#72
School is there to help our gain knowledge not experience to create wealth. Rather than gaining degrees to look for a better job after it, it is better for us to create business for ourselves so we can have our own investment and business that would help us and give us money in a long run.
Having more than one degree is not guaranteed for someone to make it, I can reason with some people having more than one degree, I normally happen if their first degree is not the course they wanted and they have the ability to go forward then they proceed to further their education, we just have to respect everyone opinions, but for me I rather pursue  working hard than getting another degree just because of my country conditions. In my country our degree does not pay anymore, only your creativity can make you survive not your degree.
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September 28, 2023, 06:15:47 AM
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Who do you think is easier for scammers to deceive? Who often suffers because they do not know their rights? I think you already understand what I want to say. The more educated a person is, the more protected he is. Yes, it is probably difficult to get a well-paid job right away, but there is always a difference in who and what you can do. A person without education can be used in any direction, knowing that he will still not be able to stand up for himself since he is not educated. He can be paid less, and because he is in a hopeless situation, he will be forced to agree to all types of difficult and poorly paid work.
But you, having several degrees of education, will never allow people to behave inappropriately towards you, firstly, having respect for yourself. Therefore, you should not think that people who strive for self-improvement will always remain at the bottom of life. There should always be a chance that should not be missed. It's always better than sitting and spitting at the ceiling and complaining about your poor life.
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September 28, 2023, 04:30:10 AM
#70
OP, you yourself note in your post that the country of origin and residence is of great importance in the answer to your question. There is no general answer to your question. There are countries in which people with a degree earn very decent money, and there are countries in which such academic scholars are treated like trash and they have to survive for a tiny bit they earn. A degree itself only is never enough. You either have to be someone valuable and intelligent, or know how to play by the rules of the system you want to be in. And often, both, unfortunately.
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September 28, 2023, 04:20:27 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Depends on what course you will gonna take since if you just take a degree because this is in demand and you don't really like it for sure you will just end up getting a hard time finding a job because for sure to many people same with your degree seek for job and compete with you in job hunting so I guess you need to have good portfolio or experience so that employers would choose you among those thousands of applicants.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Its not like they actually get more degrees to get better job its just some other just want to expand their knowledge and they take another degree so that it can help them grow and get promoted on their current career. This is really helpful especially if you are working on competitive environment since having multiple learnings can make you more valuable to the eyes of your employers and this is one of many way to higher up your rank on companies that you are working on.
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September 28, 2023, 03:16:51 AM
#68
I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
If people who focus more on academics to get a higher bachelor's degree are people who come from rich families. Which they don't even have difficulty paying for their academic life. So maybe their steps are indeed quite good steps for them. Because it is possible that after achieving a high academic degree, their family or parents may have prepared a job that is suitable for the high academic degree their child has received. So there must be many valid reasons behind everything they are struggling with academically.

But for people who come from families who are not rich. And they even find it difficult to finance their academic learning process. So I think it would be better for them to look for a job first that can make them earn money and they can go to employee class where the study time is more flexible, namely usually only 2 days on Saturday and Sunday. So they can study while working.

Because if they force themselves to get a high degree, even though their financial condition doesn't allow it, it can only make them fail halfway. They cannot complete their studies and they also have no source of income. And such conditions are clearly very bad.

The point is that everything must be adjusted to each condition.
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September 28, 2023, 02:35:01 AM
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The lesson is that it doesn't mean that if you have a degree then your job will be related to it  as that is not how the world works.

The reason for getting high-paying jobs is the work quality that you are giving, not the certificates that you have in your degree.
Gradually the parameters of worker quality will change along with competition between companies, they will only really hire you because of your realistic abilities. This will be a great job market and open up endless opportunities regardless of degree.

A degree may only be useful in some professions where you have to demonstrate administrative integrity as a professional, for example in the fields of consulting, health (such as doctors and pharmacists) or law (lawyers, etc.).
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September 28, 2023, 12:10:11 AM
#66
Depends on how well you've done in your degree program, if you're like me who just happen to have it for the sake of having a degree then it wouldn't be enough if you want a large steady income but if you did well in your degree and you passed it with flying colors then expect that you should be able to demand a bit higher in your wages although that depends on the company because there are some that didn't do well with their degree program but their work ethic and hardwork made them an asset to their organization so in the end what matters would be your attitude in your job and how you do your work.

I just remember my classmates before that they graduated and had a degree but they didn't know how to code so their path as a programmer is not bright but right now because of their hard work they land a job that is not programming but about what they love and enjoy most. The lesson is that it doesn't mean that if you have a degree then your job will be related to it  as that is not how the world works.

The reason for getting high-paying jobs is the work quality that you are giving, not the certificates that you have in your degree.
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September 27, 2023, 11:16:39 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

It can certainly help you get a good high paying job, but it still depends on your willingness, patience, passion, perseverance, and strategy how to use your knowledge and skills to obtain such position in a company.
When you get a degree or two, it's not gonna be automatic that you'll get a job you desired after you graduated. Well, not unless if you finished with the highest honor among your school.
You have to consider the competition and put into ones mind that you're not the only graduate in that particular field and you're not the only graduate who honed their skills and knowledge. Therefore, you're gonna still continue learning after your degree if you want to keep up with the career competition.
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September 27, 2023, 11:07:59 PM
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September 27, 2023, 11:06:28 PM
#63
There is no guarantee that if you get more academic degrees, you can get a bigger salary than others if you don't have much experience in the field.

There is no guarantee, but just as there is no guarantee of anything in life except that you will die. If you study a degree in something usable in the marketplace you will greatly increase your chances of earning a good income. On the other hand, if you study a degree with few job opportunities, don't be surprised if you have difficulties finding a job and end up working in a fast food restaurant.
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September 27, 2023, 10:57:33 PM
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There is no guarantee that if you get more academic degrees, you can get a bigger salary than others if you don't have much experience in the field. But so far, offices have considered someone with more academic degrees acceptable to them, especially if they study abroad.

Some people have more academic degrees but do not have better job opportunities and can only work like most people. Maybe it's because there are no jobs for them so they are forced to work like that. Meanwhile, people who read in areas with limited job opportunities are doing the right thing because they are trying to gain more knowledge, which means they are preparing themselves to compete if there is a better job vacancy.

Amid job competition like today, having more academic degrees is not enough because someone must also have many skills and work experience.
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September 27, 2023, 10:27:22 PM
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Depends on how well you've done in your degree program, if you're like me who just happen to have it for the sake of having a degree then it wouldn't be enough if you want a large steady income but if you did well in your degree and you passed it with flying colors then expect that you should be able to demand a bit higher in your wages although that depends on the company because there are some that didn't do well with their degree program but their work ethic and hardwork made them an asset to their organization so in the end what matters would be your attitude in your job and how you do your work.
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September 27, 2023, 10:26:57 PM
#60
I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?  
More degrees = more job opportunities.
But it doesn't automatically mean the job is already there and just waiting. Of course you also need to exert an effort to find a job that suited to what you've learned. If there are slim job opportunities in your region then maybe it's time to explore and start looking to a nearby cities.

But actually nowadays, education is not the basis if you're going to have a good life. What you need is skills, improve it so you can use these skills to earn money. It could be by giving services or through offering a products (business in short).
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September 27, 2023, 09:54:48 PM
#59
I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

In fact, not everyone who is highly educated manages to get a good job, there are also many who are unemployed because they are not lucky, there are also people who return to take higher education to be able to get a decent position in the company where they work. However, currently large companies prioritize people who have higher education working in their companies, it has become a requirement for them to filter out workers who are more competent than those who have no education at all.
After completing education, no one can guarantee that they will get the job they want, but I don't think they will be lucky if they keep trying to look for it. I'm sure they will be able to get the job they want because they already have the knowledge they have gained from their education. they went. Yes, you are right, every company will indeed choose those who are highly educated to work for their company compared to those who have no education, but for those who do not have a high education, maybe they can work for the company, of course they have the experience required by the company and this is very rare to find.
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