Is Avalon mining with customer hardware? Answer is here. - page 22.

rudrigorc2

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Quote from: Wayne_Chang on June 17, 2013, 05:13:03 AM

Agree. I heard several persons said that the ASICMiner blades they received are shinning new.

Maybe friedcat just have a better air blower: with a good one I can make one two year old Icarus shine like the sun

or better assumption is to say he runs the farm in one appropriate clean enviroment suitable to sensible equipment

either way, good handling and good hosting may help to explain why he is leader ATM Wink

pikeadz

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Quote from: KS on June 17, 2013, 05:48:33 AM

I stand corrected. Would you have a pic?

Nope, but I am sure wizkid057 or Luke-Jr can pull those stats if they wanted to. Also, you can sort of get a feel for the dates and how much they were mining based on how everyone was talking about "RLW" in the Eligius pool thread I linked to above.

KS

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Quote from: pikeadz on June 17, 2013, 05:27:41 AM

Quote from: KS on June 17, 2013, 05:23:38 AM

Quote from: afterthedark on June 17, 2013, 04:39:59 AM

You can get some precise stats on this eligius "account" here:

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AYdAw8CcrQ2wx55LTbFHRn5bxgNZhaRLW

The graph looks more like burning tests than continuous mining...

+1

The peaks indicate they're testing only modules (22GH/s) and one goes up to 180GH/s, maybe complete units, but that's like 3 units max. Not much to cry wolf about.

You're just looking at a graph of the past week. The 3.5 terahash jump that took place was continuous for a several days, and that was in late May and early June.

I stand corrected. Would you have a pic?

pikeadz

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Quote from: KS on June 17, 2013, 05:23:38 AM

Quote from: afterthedark on June 17, 2013, 04:39:59 AM

You can get some precise stats on this eligius "account" here:

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AYdAw8CcrQ2wx55LTbFHRn5bxgNZhaRLW

The graph looks more like burning tests than continuous mining...

+1

The peaks indicate they're testing only modules (22GH/s) and one goes up to 180GH/s, maybe complete units, but that's like 3 units max. Not much to cry wolf about.

You're just looking at a graph of the past week. The 3.5 terahash jump that took place was continuous for a several days, and that was in late May and early June.

one4many

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Quote from: Wayne_Chang on June 17, 2013, 05:13:03 AM

Agree. I heard several persons said that the ASICMiner blades they received are shinning new.

Yepp ... they were.
However they had also a pool in it. Wink

I might still have a screen shot of it ... on my other laptop though.
I have a look for it, when I'm back home tonight.

one4many

KS

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Quote from: afterthedark on June 17, 2013, 04:39:59 AM

You can get some precise stats on this eligius "account" here:

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AYdAw8CcrQ2wx55LTbFHRn5bxgNZhaRLW

The graph looks more like burning tests than continuous mining...

+1

The peaks indicate they're testing only modules (22GH/s) and one goes up to 180GH/s, maybe complete units, but that's like 3 units max. Not much to cry wolf about.

blastbob

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*Blastbob is using a word that used alot these days*

SCAM! hahahahahaha

Maybe they are being used while waiting for snailmail. I guess someone is milking every bit.

kano

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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

lulz ...

r3wt

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always the student, never the master.

*r3wt gets the popcorn

Wayne_Chang

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Quote from: Caser on June 17, 2013, 05:07:55 AM

Quote from: PuertoLibre on June 17, 2013, 03:49:06 AM

Quote from: mmitech on June 17, 2013, 03:06:18 AM

this is really serious, I've thought that BFL was doing this, now AVALON just went to my red-zone as well, it seems that ASICMINER is the only honet company (but with extreme prices)

Uh, ASICMiner also mines with their blades. They openly have a farm and continue to expand it.

Apparently, all three companies do this. Which is surprising coming from Avalon.

ASICMINER aren't mining with other people's hardware after they've sold it, which is what make's Avalon's actions unethical if this is true.

Agree. I heard several persons said that the ASICMiner blades they received are shinning new.

Caser

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Quote from: PuertoLibre on June 17, 2013, 03:49:06 AM

Quote from: mmitech on June 17, 2013, 03:06:18 AM

this is really serious, I've thought that BFL was doing this, now AVALON just went to my red-zone as well, it seems that ASICMINER is the only honet company (but with extreme prices)

Uh, ASICMiner also mines with their blades. They openly have a farm and continue to expand it.

Apparently, all three companies do this. Which is surprising coming from Avalon.

ASICMINER aren't mining with other people's hardware after they've sold it, which is what make's Avalon's actions unethical if this is true.

batman, not crabman

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It does kinda look like testing to my untrained eye, but ethically they should be sending the coins to the payment address.
Having said that, I'm not completely naive...

pikeadz

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"RLW" was noticed in the Eligius pool thread a few weeks ago as having brought in 3.5 Th/s for a few days. Then they (Avalon) left, and came back a couple days later. There were several pages of discussion speculating who it was. I guess we know for sure now.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2276814

cedivad

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Quote from: afterthedark on June 17, 2013, 04:39:59 AM

You can get some precise stats on this eligius "account" here:

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AYdAw8CcrQ2wx55LTbFHRn5bxgNZhaRLW

The graph looks more like burning tests than continuous mining...

Interesting!

dan99

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Quote from: Wayne_Chang on June 17, 2013, 04:11:59 AM

Can they finish the 'testing' before I can still make my money back?

Wayne you have a great point, weeks and months in the name of Testings, common guys is it really necessary??

afterthedark

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You can get some precise stats on this eligius "account" here:

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AYdAw8CcrQ2wx55LTbFHRn5bxgNZhaRLW

The graph looks more like burning tests than continuous mining...

sprint347

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There's a few Avalons hashing away

http://eligius.st/~gateway/stats/top-contributors

*I am not suggesting this is Avalon themselves doing the mining

Mota

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actually, you have. At least in some countries like Germany. It is forbidden to use customer money to speculate/gain any profit until you deliver the goods the person paid for. E.g If you fail to refund money until a given date you have to pay all the profit you made with it to the customer. Also, you have to take care that all actions regarding the goods don't lessen it's value prior to shipping.

titomane

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It was something that everyone supposed. Now it is confirmed. Sad

Rampion

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Quote from: Wayne_Chang on June 17, 2013, 04:11:59 AM

Can they finish the 'testing' before I can still make my money back?

Things are getting not-so-good for batch #2, and quite ugly for batch #3. Hope they can speed up the shipping process or there will be a lot of people mining at a loss Sad

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