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June 04, 2023, 07:34:21 AM
Regulations from the government try to suppress crypto casinos so that crypto users who often play gambling at crypto casinos experience the impact of these government regulations.

I understand why government do that because many money launderers is now using online casino to mix their dirty money. Unlike crypto mixers, Casino needs to apply safety precautions like KYC to fight this criminal and to avoid being seize by the government by allowing launderers to freely use their service to wash their money.

I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.
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June 04, 2023, 06:57:08 AM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

I don't know what you meant by "safe" though, no one is safe in this world, although we shouldn't give our personal data, those that are receiving it has the responsibility to protect it my any means, otherwise they will be liable by law to pay hefty fines if ever there will be a data leakage about their customers.

So it's very important to them, on the other hand, we might not be comfortable giving it out. However, we really don't have a choice now. There is this whole crypto regulation slowly crippling it in the last 5 years including casinos and exchanges and if we want to still enjoy it, I guess it's going to be mandatory now to submit KYC.
Perhaps "safe" means that no casino will get hacked, but I agree that nothing in this world is safe, especially when that data is already on the internet. Hacking can happen at any time and on any site, so we must be careful if we want to verify by sending personal data.

Regulations from the government try to suppress crypto casinos so that crypto users who often play gambling at crypto casinos experience the impact of these government regulations. We must verify by doing KYC because we still want to use the casino to play gambling. But I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.
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June 04, 2023, 06:23:49 AM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

I don't know what you meant by "safe" though, no one is safe in this world, although we shouldn't give our personal data, those that are receiving it has the responsibility to protect it my any means, otherwise they will be liable by law to pay hefty fines if ever there will be a data leakage about their customers.

So it's very important to them, on the other hand, we might not be comfortable giving it out. However, we really don't have a choice now. There is this whole crypto regulation slowly crippling it in the last 5 years including casinos and exchanges and if we want to still enjoy it, I guess it's going to be mandatory now to submit KYC.
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June 04, 2023, 05:37:54 AM
To be honest, I didn't think that our personal data are safe anywhere on the internet and gambling sites are not exception. Personal data is very valuable goods online.
However, KYC is part of regulation and on legit sites is a must so we don't have much choice but to trust that gambling sire we use has taken all necessary measures to protect the date and that it will not misuse it. In general, the whole virtual space is about the trust but also precaution.
That's why you have to do research before playing gambling whether the casino is trusted and has a high reputation, you don't need to mention that personal data is valuable online goods because we all know that, but we also need to know that even casinos don't want regulations that and want freedom, but they are subject to the law, aka the law, and as gamblers, we must also obey the existing regulations.

I think we have a choice if we don't want to play at the casino, provide personal data, look for a decentralized casino but don't guarantee security as well as comfort there, the risk of losing money will also be very easy, but here all decisions come back to each gambler how they see it from their point of view KYC at the casino. don't make it complicated when gambling at a trusted casino, I'm sure everything will be safe too.
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June 04, 2023, 05:34:03 AM
Depends on which site you're submitting your KYC info to. Most of the time, casinos that are requesting these information are already registered and in contact with the government, so at least you know that you will have something to chase whenever something goes wrong. I wouldn't really trust these platforms 100% though, as there is always a risk of leaked information even though they themselves are not the ones leaking the information in the first place. Perhaps just pass the basic KYC and that's it.
The best form of trust is not to give out your personal information, immediately it is given out to any platform, company or organisation and even government, it is no longer secured. Even if they will not use it against you, they can trade your data. So, immediately you give out your personal information you are no longer sage even if the company you gave it promised not to expose it.
When they are compelled by law, they will have no option than to give your details out.
Your data is like your private key, when it's leaked, it's leaked.
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June 04, 2023, 05:17:26 AM
Casino that will not risk their business most with established casino as they will care more about security they will not take that big risk closing their business just because of mishandling those private information, it's hard to entrust your private data but if you really trust the site where you are playing or where you are gambling, it's something that will be depend from how you really see and project the business if they will take care of your data or you need to pause for a while and think more if you are willing to take that step and risk those information.
An established casino will not take the risk of not having good security to protect the data of its users because its customers have entrusted their data to the casino. And the casino will try to keep this data properly and ensure that the casino can be trusted. And it is our job to determine which casino we will choose so that when we submit documents to the casino, they can properly carry out their duties. We also don't have to worry about the security system on their site.
Yes indeed, they will keep that information as they know it will ruin their business if in case they've got exposed or if there's hack that may happen to their system, it's a bread and butter for them so why let that to happen and ruin their good communication with their clients. Gambling business is not an easy task, but once you established you'll do your best to keep it as it is.
If a casino experiences a hack and the news gets around, the casino's reputation may suffer and it won't be able to maintain its business any longer. That is why casinos must really be able to maintain their reputation and be able to provide security for consumer data that has been submitted to the casino. And with maximum protection, casinos can also calmly run their business. At the same time, consumers can also play gambling comfortably because they have confidence in the ability of casinos to protect their sites from hacking.
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June 03, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
To be honest, I didn't think that our personal data are safe anywhere on the internet and gambling sites are not exception. Personal data is very valuable goods online.
However, KYC is part of regulation and on legit sites is a must so we don't have much choice but to trust that gambling sire we use has taken all necessary measures to protect the date and that it will not misuse it. In general, the whole virtual space is about the trust but also precaution.

do take note that we don't know where our info will end up with. so before you submit any vital info to any site, whether it is gambling site or not, make sure the site is legit for one, and you will really use their services more often. because if you will just use the site one time, then, that's not worth taking a risk for your docs.
much better if you will stick to one reputable casino if you do need to submit kyc. not on every casino you want to play with. as much as possible, lessen the exposure of your personal details online.
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June 03, 2023, 06:02:43 PM
To be honest, I didn't think that our personal data are safe anywhere on the internet and gambling sites are not exception. Personal data is very valuable goods online.
However, KYC is part of regulation and on legit sites is a must so we don't have much choice but to trust that gambling sire we use has taken all necessary measures to protect the date and that it will not misuse it. In general, the whole virtual space is about the trust but also precaution.
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June 03, 2023, 05:53:46 PM

really be that be sold into those marketplaces. It is really just that it isnt within reach by most common internet people but only to those who do able to access or dive
in into deep web.
Dark web has been a host of all the world's dirtiest and deadliest deals, but also the user has to take the extra mile to such the information that is available for sale in the marketplace to see the level of linkage that data have gone through and nothing is stopping their buyers from using those data to commit more crime there exposing the real owner if those data to criminal charges unless their ability to prove that their identity has truly been stolen.
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June 03, 2023, 05:50:07 PM
I have not seen cases of data linking through casinos' KYC databases before but even if the data that are collected are being taken by hackers or sold to identity thieves how will we know that?

Because once we provide them with those documents they have full access and control over the data supplied and can use it for whatever reason, in fact, some of those KYC data are stored on third-party data holding sites such as Google Cloud and the rest of what have you.

Casino databases should be kept away from the public so there is no way the casino will share their players' data in public.  Though I cannot remove the thought of some bad casinos selling their players' information to gain extra earnings or hackers getting access to the Casino database and selling the information to the black market.

So if we are too concerned about these leaks we can always avoid using gambling platforms that require KYC.
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June 03, 2023, 05:35:52 PM
I have not seen cases of data linking through casinos' KYC databases before but even if the data that are collected are being taken by hackers or sold to identity thieves how will we know that?

Because once we provide them with those documents they have full access and control over the data supplied and can use it for whatever reason, in fact, some of those KYC data are stored on third-party data holding sites such as Google Cloud and the rest of what have you.
^I don't know if this is really happening or just a rumor, I have never seen anyone's information sold in the black market, and if there is I don't see the buyer will benefit from it which is most KYC now required face-to-face recognition.
However, just keep in mind that there is no system that is entirely immune to hacking, major technology companies like Google invest heavily in security measures to protect their infrastructure and user data. Google Cloud has numerous security measures in place to safeguard its services and databases, including encryption, access controls, monitoring systems, and regular security audits which I think is worth it to trust.
Try to go into deep or dark web using up TOR browser and using up some onion sites on which you would be able to see those tons of information or things which are illegal to be sold on that black market.

This is indeed true and happening on which it is really just dumb that people would be selling out information publicly or on this internet or online space or simply that surface web.They arent that dumb on making themselves get jailed because of doing that.We have seen lots or tons of data breaches but we dont actually know on where it would really be that ending up into but for sure it would
really be that be sold into those marketplaces. It is really just that it isnt within reach by most common internet people but only to those who do able to access or dive
in into deep web.
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June 03, 2023, 05:16:57 PM
I have not seen cases of data linking through casinos' KYC databases before but even if the data that are collected are being taken by hackers or sold to identity thieves how will we know that?

Because once we provide them with those documents they have full access and control over the data supplied and can use it for whatever reason, in fact, some of those KYC data are stored on third-party data holding sites such as Google Cloud and the rest of what have you.
^I don't know if this is really happening or just a rumor, I have never seen anyone's information sold in the black market, and if there is I don't see the buyer will benefit from it which is most KYC now required face-to-face recognition.
However, just keep in mind that there is no system that is entirely immune to hacking, major technology companies like Google invest heavily in security measures to protect their infrastructure and user data. Google Cloud has numerous security measures in place to safeguard its services and databases, including encryption, access controls, monitoring systems, and regular security audits which I think is worth it to trust.
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June 03, 2023, 03:44:00 PM
I have not seen cases of data linking through casinos' KYC databases before but even if the data that are collected are being taken by hackers or sold to identity thieves how will we know that?

Because once we provide them with those documents they have full access and control over the data supplied and can use it for whatever reason, in fact, some of those KYC data are stored on third-party data holding sites such as Google Cloud and the rest of what have you.
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June 03, 2023, 12:52:30 PM
The only danger is when the casino database got breached. I think there’s an issue like this in the past were players information is stolen by hacker and sold on deep web. It still relies on the casino security on how they will store the customers data even though the casino is permitted by the law to do KYC.

That is not the only danger, my friend. There's more to worry about than just a casino database getting hacked. It's a serious issue, no doubt, but let's not forget about those shady online casinos lurking out there. It's a sad reality that not all gambling platforms play fair. Some of them are downright deceitful and fraudulent.

Even if a casino claims to have top-notch security measures in place, there's always a chance of something going wrong on the inside. You know how it is, there's always a chance of human error or misconduct within the casino itself. Imagine employees mishandling our personal data either on purpose or by accident. That's a privacy breach waiting to happen right under their noses.

And let's not kid ourselves, my friend. In this wild world of online gambling, there are establishments that don't give a damn about ethics. They see our personal information as a goldmine, ready to be exploited for their own financial gain. They're not above selling our data to sketchy third parties who want to market stuff to us or, worst case scenario, engaging in identity theft and fraud.

The requirements of KYC is not about how small or big the casino because all casino start as being small and they just improve it. KYC is based on the license of the casino and user shouldn’t provide KYC on casino that doesn’t have license no matter how big it is.

That's true. It's a real bummer, but we have to stay vigilant. Do some digging before you trust any online casino. Look for trustworthy reviews, check if they're licensed and regulated, and read their privacy policies. It's the only way we can protect ourselves from these unscrupulous characters who want to take advantage of us by treating our personal information like a commodity.
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June 03, 2023, 09:47:42 AM
The safety of data that are stored online depends on the strength of the security of the site collecting them because cloud storage of anything is highly exposed to hackers who may gain access to those data and use them for various criminal used, btw we still have a good number of site that hack meet up to 90%-100% data security and safety so users providing those documents for verification will have nothing to worry about.

I don't know what other best advice than telling gamblers to always do due diligence security checks to see if they can trust the site with their data or not.

The question is, do you know the strength of their security when you submit your data? Can you demand any compensation if your data is leaked or hacked?
The answer to both questions is, as far as I know, no.
You don't know how well your data is protected, you don't know the measures a company is taking to protect you and you get completely no compensation in case of a leak. Basically it's a "trust me bro" approach by casinos. For this reason I avoid KYC if I can.
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June 03, 2023, 09:01:58 AM

I will still advice you to better use casinos that require verification because it's a sign that they are given permission by the law and it means they are more reliable than others that are not asking for KYC, it's a big risk using such casinos because they can one day be forced to face the law.
yes obviously this is a good suggestion because for the sake of security as well as the convenience of playing gambling there are no problems with KYC as long as the casino has a good reputation and a big casino of course they also comply with laws and regulations, after all a trusted casino will not use documents belonging to all users to committing acts of crime as people fear.

The only danger is when the casino database got breached. I think there’s an issue like this in the past were players information is stolen by hacker and sold on deep web. It still relies on the casino security on how they will store the customers data even though the casino is permitted by the law to do KYC.

Unless giving our KYC documents to a small and new casino, of course, that's really not recommended for fear that it could be misused and the data could be traded by third parties, but it's also true that good advice is to play in a big casino.

The requirements of KYC is not about how small or big the casino because all casino start as being small and they just improve it. KYC is based on the license of the casino and user shouldn’t provide KYC on casino that doesn’t have license no matter how big it is.
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June 03, 2023, 09:00:27 AM

I will still advice you to better use casinos that require verification because it's a sign that they are given permission by the law and it means they are more reliable than others that are not asking for KYC, it's a big risk using such casinos because they can one day be forced to face the law.
yes obviously this is a good suggestion because for the sake of security as well as the convenience of playing gambling there are no problems with KYC as long as the casino has a good reputation and a big casino of course they also comply with laws and regulations, after all a trusted casino will not use documents belonging to all users to committing acts of crime as people fear.

Unless giving our KYC documents to a small and new casino, of course, that's really not recommended for fear that it could be misused and the data could be traded by third parties, but it's also true that good advice is to play in a big casino.
Those regulated casinos are usually a big casinos who are serious about doing business here, and so far its safe to provide KYC with them.

Actually, its hard to tell what site is not safe at all because we already gave our information to many sites, from a local government agencies, banks, social groups and with crypto casinos, now how can you tell who leak your information from those insitutions? If you really want to be safe, then stop giving your information to any platform and sites even with the banks.
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June 03, 2023, 08:39:22 AM

I will still advice you to better use casinos that require verification because it's a sign that they are given permission by the law and it means they are more reliable than others that are not asking for KYC, it's a big risk using such casinos because they can one day be forced to face the law.
yes obviously this is a good suggestion because for the sake of security as well as the convenience of playing gambling there are no problems with KYC as long as the casino has a good reputation and a big casino of course they also comply with laws and regulations, after all a trusted casino will not use documents belonging to all users to committing acts of crime as people fear.

Unless giving our KYC documents to a small and new casino, of course, that's really not recommended for fear that it could be misused and the data could be traded by third parties, but it's also true that good advice is to play in a big casino.
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June 03, 2023, 08:18:52 AM
Casino that will not risk their business most with established casino as they will care more about security they will not take that big risk closing their business just because of mishandling those private information, it's hard to entrust your private data but if you really trust the site where you are playing or where you are gambling, it's something that will be depend from how you really see and project the business if they will take care of your data or you need to pause for a while and think more if you are willing to take that step and risk those information.
An established casino will not take the risk of not having good security to protect the data of its users because its customers have entrusted their data to the casino. And the casino will try to keep this data properly and ensure that the casino can be trusted. And it is our job to determine which casino we will choose so that when we submit documents to the casino, they can properly carry out their duties. We also don't have to worry about the security system on their site.


Yes indeed, they will keep that information as they know it will ruin their business if in case they've got exposed or if there's hack that may happen to their system, it's a bread and butter for them so why let that to happen and ruin their good communication with their clients. Gambling business is not an easy task, but once you established you'll do your best to keep it as it is.
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June 03, 2023, 03:25:58 AM
The safety of data that are stored online depends on the strength of the security of the site collecting them because cloud storage of anything is highly exposed to hackers who may gain access to those data and use them for various criminal used, btw we still have a good number of site that hack meet up to 90%-100% data security and safety so users providing those documents for verification will have nothing to worry about.

I don't know what other best advice than telling gamblers to always do due diligence security checks to see if they can trust the site with their data or not.

No amount of security can protect your data if there are thieves inside the company. We occasionally hear the news of the exchange hacks. Some of these "hacks" weren't actual hacks. The thieves inside the company that sold the users' data and made it look like a hack. So even if you are KYC'ing on the safest exchange there is, it will never be 100% safe because those hidden thieves in the company may always decide to rip you off. That's called an inside job and it is more common than anybody thinks.
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