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sr. member
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June 03, 2023, 02:03:10 AM
KYC verification won't safe your account from getting attacked, it could happen from your side if you are not careful, like, using the same password on every website that you open an account with or it could happen from the website developers side, like, carelessly not looking into any possible breach on their platform.

There are many crypto exchanges that ask for KYC verification and they get hacked by hackers, they lost a lot of money in this process, I am just trying to prove to you that hacking is still possible if any platforms ask for KYC from their customers.

I will still advice you to better use casinos that require verification because it's a sign that they are given permission by the law and it means they are more reliable than others that are not asking for KYC, it's a big risk using such casinos because they can one day be forced to face the law.
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June 03, 2023, 01:04:30 AM
Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.

Casino that won't intentionally link your information to people that will use it wrongly to target you are good ones to keep using when they request you to submit your KYC so they can verify their customers and not be providing services to users that aren't clean.

KYC helps the casino to verify their customers so they're doing the right thing and it's left for the customers to continue using the casino. We have many casino that aren't requesting for KYC so you can use those casino if you don't feel comfortable submitting your KYC.

It's better to use a KYC casino that won't scam you of your money then to use a casino that don't request for your KYC but is a scam casino waiting to get enough deposit from their customers then disappear with the money. We have many casinos like this.

If we trust a casino, we will need to comply with the KYC requirement. However, our primary security lies in the regulators who oversee and regulate the casino industry. These regulators have the power to impose penalties on casinos that engage in illegal activities. While we cannot be entirely certain if our information will be linked, strict regulations and the awareness of potential penalties or crimes serve as a deterrent to prevent such actions.

Therefore, it is not sufficient to only look for a reputable casino; it is also important to ensure that they hold a license provided by a reputable licensing authority.
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June 02, 2023, 11:42:53 PM
Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.

Casino that won't intentionally link your information to people that will use it wrongly to target you are good ones to keep using when they request you to submit your KYC so they can verify their customers and not be providing services to users that aren't clean.

KYC helps the casino to verify their customers so they're doing the right thing and it's left for the customers to continue using the casino. We have many casino that aren't requesting for KYC so you can use those casino if you don't feel comfortable submitting your KYC.

It's better to use a KYC casino that won't scam you of your money then to use a casino that don't request for your KYC but is a scam casino waiting to get enough deposit from their customers then disappear with the money. We have many casinos like this.
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June 02, 2023, 10:38:48 PM
Casino that will not risk their business most with established casino as they will care more about security they will not take that big risk closing their business just because of mishandling those private information, it's hard to entrust your private data but if you really trust the site where you are playing or where you are gambling, it's something that will be depend from how you really see and project the business if they will take care of your data or you need to pause for a while and think more if you are willing to take that step and risk those information.
An established casino will not take the risk of not having good security to protect the data of its users because its customers have entrusted their data to the casino. And the casino will try to keep this data properly and ensure that the casino can be trusted. And it is our job to determine which casino we will choose so that when we submit documents to the casino, they can properly carry out their duties. We also don't have to worry about the security system on their site.

What is certain is to avoid KYC on sites that are new or don't have a good reputation.
Even though there is no guarantee that doing KYC will be safe, if you do KYC on a reputable site, of course the casino will prioritize the security of customer data.
It is a must for us to always be careful in choosing a casino. We also don't want to see the data we have sent being misused by irresponsible casinos because we have seen much of this data being traded freely. Choosing a casino or site with a good reputation can provide us with security so that we will be calm and comfortable there.
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June 02, 2023, 09:55:36 PM
The safety of data that are stored online depends on the strength of the security of the site collecting them because cloud storage of anything is highly exposed to hackers who may gain access to those data and use them for various criminal used, btw we still have a good number of site that hack meet up to 90%-100% data security and safety so users providing those documents for verification will have nothing to worry about.

I don't know what other best advice than telling gamblers to always do due diligence security checks to see if they can trust the site with their data or not.

Aside from that, it is also good to say to avoid doing KYC if you do not trust the casino.  No one is forcing anyone to engage in a casino that requires KYC so players are free to choose which casino platform to use.

So true.
After all, there are many casinos here from those that require KYC to non-KYC and among them there are quite a few that are trusted and have very good reputations.
The gambler just needs to research and choose which trusted casino he can rely on.
Most gamblers maintain anonymity, but many are also willing to provide KYC so they can play gambling at a trusted casino that they like.
After all, by providing KYC to a casino that has a good reputation and a high level of trust, we don't need to be afraid of the data leaks that we have provided because the casino definitely has pretty good security.
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June 02, 2023, 06:59:06 PM
The safety of data that are stored online depends on the strength of the security of the site collecting them because cloud storage of anything is highly exposed to hackers who may gain access to those data and use them for various criminal used, btw we still have a good number of site that hack meet up to 90%-100% data security and safety so users providing those documents for verification will have nothing to worry about.

I don't know what other best advice than telling gamblers to always do due diligence security checks to see if they can trust the site with their data or not.

Aside from that, it is also good to say to avoid doing KYC if you do not trust the casino.  No one is forcing anyone to engage in a casino that requires KYC so players are free to choose which casino platform to use.

Well I don't have issues with submitting  KYC  on the internet and since the question  was for casinos  then I also don't have any issues submitting  my credentials or kyc  to provided  that the platform  or casino  is a trusted one.

I trully appreciate your honesty and I'm certain most of the members who have replied here have submitted their kyc documents at least once to a casino or any of the centralized services. I wish they have the courage to say they've done so..
At least you realize that you should send your personal information to only platformsthat you trust and only when you have no other option, right !

I am one of those forum members that submitted KYC in a casino, meaning I have my account verified. I did that because I don't want to experience any trouble in withdrawing my fund if one day I happen to win a huge amount, and it did happen when I won a huge prize playing on that casino dice years ago.  Since my account was already verified, I don't have any problem withdrawing the fund.
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June 02, 2023, 06:25:29 PM
The safety of data that are stored online depends on the strength of the security of the site collecting them because cloud storage of anything is highly exposed to hackers who may gain access to those data and use them for various criminal used, btw we still have a good number of site that hack meet up to 90%-100% data security and safety so users providing those documents for verification will have nothing to worry about.

I don't know what other best advice than telling gamblers to always do due diligence security checks to see if they can trust the site with their data or not.
legendary
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June 02, 2023, 06:09:30 PM
Well I don't have issues with submitting  KYC  on the internet and since the question  was for casinos  then I also don't have any issues submitting  my credentials or kyc  to provided  that the platform  or casino  is a trusted one.

I trully appreciate your honesty and I'm certain most of the members who have replied here have submitted their kyc documents at least once to a casino or any of the centralized services. I wish they have the courage to say they've done so..
At least you realize that you should send your personal information to only platformsthat you trust and only when you have no other option, right !
sr. member
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June 02, 2023, 05:59:29 PM
Submitting your personal information on the internet is never a safe thing to do. It depends on needs. It depends on how much you care about being anonymous, or maybe you don't care about it too much. You don't know if some hackers stole the database or if casino staff was selling the data on the darknet. You are browsing the clear net, so you might not know what's happening on the dark net.

You can buy people's ID cards, Passports, utility bill documents, etc. Now the question is, do you believe anyone will sell their personal information online? Nope, Those are stolen data from KYC platforms. You never know if your data was stolen by someone and maybe your data was used by someone else.
Well I don't have issues with submitting  KYC  on the internet and since the question  was for casinos  then I also don't have any issues submitting  my credentials or kyc  to provided  that the platform  or casino  is a trusted one.
I agree with you mate on your perspective  but I was thinking  that most of these platforms has improved lately and are making it difficult  for people to steals the details of others as there  have the video capture policy been introduced  into most of the online casinos that ask for kyc.

Most times, I think most people don't really have any special reason to wanting to protect their identity  but simply just following threads.
Security is one of the primary concerns of any platform specially on a gambling site which does have tons of money involved and in overall.Once they do have that breach or exploit whether in related to money/funds or those informations of users then it would really completely lost up the trust of its users or into the community which is really that a very bad scenario or condition of a business.
It do becomes standard nowadays in speaking about KYC which every platform could potentially asked out for some KYc specially into those who are licensed or regulated which it would be no shocking thing.
Safety of information would really vary but most of platforms are really having that strong security in regarding both information and wallet specially on a gambling business. This is why it would really be building up such confidence into those people who are really that keen or really that paranoid when it comes to safety or security of certain things.
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June 02, 2023, 03:20:47 PM
Submitting your personal information on the internet is never a safe thing to do. It depends on needs. It depends on how much you care about being anonymous, or maybe you don't care about it too much. You don't know if some hackers stole the database or if casino staff was selling the data on the darknet. You are browsing the clear net, so you might not know what's happening on the dark net.

You can buy people's ID cards, Passports, utility bill documents, etc. Now the question is, do you believe anyone will sell their personal information online? Nope, Those are stolen data from KYC platforms. You never know if your data was stolen by someone and maybe your data was used by someone else.
Well I don't have issues with submitting  KYC  on the internet and since the question  was for casinos  then I also don't have any issues submitting  my credentials or kyc  to provided  that the platform  or casino  is a trusted one.
I agree with you mate on your perspective  but I was thinking  that most of these platforms has improved lately and are making it difficult  for people to steals the details of others as there  have the video capture policy been introduced  into most of the online casinos that ask for kyc.

Most times, I think most people don't really have any special reason to wanting to protect their identity  but simply just following threads.
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June 02, 2023, 03:15:55 PM
Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.
I don’t believe my personal data is safe with any third party, I know their are some reputable gambling site that are trusted, but I don’t still trust them with my personal data, things might be going fine now and you might think your data is safe on the gambling site, till anything happens in the future then your personal information’s will be exposed, then you will know your details is not safe no matter how reputable  the gambling site is. Any gambling sites can be compromised at any moments and scammers might have access to your information which they will end up using it for illegal things which will definitely implicate you, at the end you will be accused of the crime which you didn’t commit and you won’t be able to proof you are innocent, or your accounts might be compromised.
I also think the same as you, only that for these cases where the casinos are very demanding, and ask for the kyc to be able to Withdraw, it is very bad that if you do not give a KYC you cannot make a withdrawal, besides that it is something very annoying. what happens, I think that what they can do is have a not so radical kyc so that it can go quickly without so much problem, but our data is something very delicate and for that reason many are jealous with their data, because it is easy to be able to blackmail them and make them have a bad time, that is what you want to avoid.
legendary
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June 02, 2023, 02:56:31 PM
IMO it's not safe which is why I avoid KYC at all cost. If the casino demands it for withdrawals over a certain limit, I don't withdraw over the limit. If it requires KYC for fiat withdrawals, I don't use fiat. If it does random KYC screening, I tend to avoid the casino completely.

Many years ago I've decided that it's important for me to stay anonymous in the Internet, which is why I never reveal any sensitive data and I never send scans of my documents. You will not find my face anywhere in the web. It allows me to feel somewhat safe.
sr. member
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June 02, 2023, 02:20:55 PM
Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.
I don’t believe my personal data is safe with any third party, I know their are some reputable gambling site that are trusted, but I don’t still trust them with my personal data, things might be going fine now and you might think your data is safe on the gambling site, till anything happens in the future then your personal information’s will be exposed, then you will know your details is not safe no matter how reputable  the gambling site is. Any gambling sites can be compromised at any moments and scammers might have access to your information which they will end up using it for illegal things which will definitely implicate you, at the end you will be accused of the crime which you didn’t commit and you won’t be able to proof you are innocent, or your accounts might be compromised.
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June 02, 2023, 02:15:50 PM
Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..
That's why we have to be careful when doing KYC and don't choose a casino carelessly because we need a casino that can keep our data safe from hacking. At least the casino has to think about where to store the data safely and it won't be hacked. Maybe offline storage will be better than online storage because they control all the data. Using third party special services is also possible and it is the casino's responsibility while we don't have to think about it. We have to think about where we can do KYC safely, that's all.
What is certain is to avoid KYC on sites that are new or don't have a good reputation.
Even though there is no guarantee that doing KYC will be safe, if you do KYC on a reputable site, of course the casino will prioritize the security of customer data.[/left
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June 02, 2023, 01:34:45 PM
Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..
That's why we have to be careful when doing KYC and don't choose a casino carelessly because we need a casino that can keep our data safe from hacking. At least the casino has to think about where to store the data safely and it won't be hacked. Maybe offline storage will be better than online storage because they control all the data. Using third party special services is also possible and it is the casino's responsibility while we don't have to think about it. We have to think about where we can do KYC safely, that's all.

Casino that will not risk their business most with established casino as they will care more about security they will not take that big risk closing their business just because of mishandling those private information, it's hard to entrust your private data but if you really trust the site where you are playing or where you are gambling, it's something that will be depend from how you really see and project the business if they will take care of your data or you need to pause for a while and think more if you are willing to take that step and risk those information.
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June 02, 2023, 01:16:23 PM
Probably. The general opinion is that when you send KYC documents they are potentially compromised, but this happens even on large exchanges like Coinbase, where data can be hacked or even sold by them. In general, the more reputable the casino or the site in general, the less likely it is that there will be a problem with your data, but once you have submitted it, you can't be sure of anything.
The information on the databases is stolen and sold. No one from a casino is going to come out publicly and say that information has been compromised. In fact, the casino may not even know since most of the time it's an inside job and an employee just sells the information.
Well, it's not as easy as you say it is to steal the information and documents of users if you are working in a company and sell them out, it doesn't generally work that way since everyone in the company would know it's you who did it because you were the database manager who manages the databases for the company or a website or exchange. So you can't simply just get away after doing something like that.

If the information is compromised or sold, it will be done by the company itself and not by an individual employee without the company knowing about it. That is why it is better to just stick to the ones who are trusted when it comes to using services like casinos or exchanges, etc.
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June 02, 2023, 11:15:36 AM
Thanks for all the discussions. I read a lot of comments. That many people disagree with kyc. But I haven't seen anyone commenting that there was fraud or KYC abuse from gambling sites. Hope I didn't miss that comment.

Same, I haven't seen anyone complain about their KYC being leaked or sold by a casino, but I have seen a thread in Bitcoin discussion about how the life of a driver was ruined because of KYC, for some unfortunate reason this man KYC was sold in the dark web and the buyer decided to use it for some dubious business which resulted in the man getting arrested but later they found out that the man was not directly involved in those activities instead the person who had obtained his details was the one involved.
So this could be said also for gambling site, and to be on the safer side it's best we just minimize the casino we reveal our details to and just as I said in my previous comment use a reputable casino and stick to it.
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June 02, 2023, 10:29:08 AM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
I don't think KYC prevents anything to be honest, except money laundering and multi-accounting(especially ban evaders). But for the customer it doesn't give safety neither any benefit, because even in case of credentials loss, the customer could simply sign a message from an address used for a deposit or a withdrawal, in addition to his email address, in order to prove his identity. But if a dishonest casino want to lock your funds and not pay your winnings, he will just need to ask you endless additional documents on top of your initial KYC. So gamblers shouldn't feel safe because they've already pass one KYC.  

Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..
With the third party services like that, your documents/information is being tossed around by the one who has access to it. Your documents are stored in multiple database and that is a hazard given that if only one of those database is hacked, Your information/documents are done. We may never know but our information might be on other hands that we didn't gave access to. The best thing you can do if you submit KYC is to pray that you will not be a casualty if there's a data breached happen on the casino or the third party services.
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June 02, 2023, 09:28:51 AM
Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..
That's why we have to be careful when doing KYC and don't choose a casino carelessly because we need a casino that can keep our data safe from hacking. At least the casino has to think about where to store the data safely and it won't be hacked. Maybe offline storage will be better than online storage because they control all the data. Using third party special services is also possible and it is the casino's responsibility while we don't have to think about it. We have to think about where we can do KYC safely, that's all.
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June 02, 2023, 09:26:50 AM
Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

I understand that some people are sensitive to their personal data. and it makes them want to remain anonymous in the online world. but when they are about to be hit with casino or exchange regulations that tell them to do KYC to be able to expedite the mobility that is done, there is no other choice.
if you want to use the platform, we also have to follow the set regulations. Casinos run their business and we as gamblers also want to play there.
as long as we do not choose a casino that has a bad reputation. then submitting KYC will not be a problem. but all will return to the gambler himself. if you don't want to do KYC, then avoid the casino in question.
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