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legendary
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Equating advertisement with market manipulation is a misunderstanding of market operations. Advertising is about getting in touch with people, giving them information, and maybe even convincing them. Do you always buy what you see in ads? No! People can make choices. They think about it, figure it out, and then make a choice

Market manipulation, especially in crypto with the so-called "whales", is an entirely different beast. Setting up the game is what it's all about, not informing or convincing. It's not persuasion when prices drop because a whale chose to spread false rumors or sell a lot of a coin. It's economic treachery

If you think that advertising and market influence are the same thing, you need to learn the big differences between them. To get through the complicated modern economy and fight for fair, open market practices, we need a good understanding of it
Most of the time advertisement can't be consider as market manipulation since I agree with you that people has choices and advertisement goal is to convince people to buy or use their products. But there are times that it can be a little bit manipulative like showing an advertisement that shows defamation to another obvious product company. It's illegal but advertisers can pass through it by doing indirect defamation to another company like branding as X and comparing. This is widely done before and the manipulation happen when people starts to avoid this Brand X that is showed to the advertisement.

The contents of the advertisement maybe fact but it's an evil thing to do when advertising. I've seen it done back then, rumors can start about that certain brand which positively affects the one who put up the advertisement given that they are the one who are on the good side of that advertisement.
legendary
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Advertising and marketing is not market manipulation, it is a strategy to attract more potential consumers thereby expanding the reach of the target market. Maybe in practice there are several marketing techniques to manipulate people's minds to encourage them to buy the product. But still it doesn't have a direct influence on statistics, it's just a possibility.
I agree that advertisement isn't a kind of market manipulation. There is nothing wrong with advertisement, it is a common way to invite more people joining/using a product/service. If people think an advertisement is convincing enough, they will follow it. While if the advertisement seems not interesting, people probably ignore it. So, it doesn't automatically increases the number of customers/demands, it depends on how effective and how the quality of the content of an advertisement.

It is different with market manipulation, it is the action that make an automatically raise/drop of the demand. For example when the whales manipulated the market, the price of a coin can free fall because whales are spreading FUDs through social media. Or the whales are trying to dump the price of a certain coin by selling a big number of the coin.

So, the way of an advertising (advertisement) and market manipulation are quite different.

Equating advertisement with market manipulation is a misunderstanding of market operations. Advertising is about getting in touch with people, giving them information, and maybe even convincing them. Do you always buy what you see in ads? No! People can make choices. They think about it, figure it out, and then make a choice

Market manipulation, especially in crypto with the so-called "whales", is an entirely different beast. Setting up the game is what it's all about, not informing or convincing. It's not persuasion when prices drop because a whale chose to spread false rumors or sell a lot of a coin. It's economic treachery

If you think that advertising and market influence are the same thing, you need to learn the big differences between them. To get through the complicated modern economy and fight for fair, open market practices, we need a good understanding of it
legendary
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In a movie scene, I once saw a scene that included how whales manipulate the stock market. They also pay the media to make articles about the stocks they manipulate and as a result these stocks can really attract a lot of investment from people who are tempted by the content. from the media they pay for and this is also not much different from in the real world, there are many manipulations created on commodities, stock markets and also currencies, so investors usually always read the latest news about economics and politics which can affect the assets which they invest in.

Is the current situation similar to scenes like the films you have watched? If true, you will definitely know the ending. However, it is true, the market is very volatile, especially if BTC goes down and this is very clearly visible in altcoins whose fundamentals are minimal.
What happens in the film is something that has happened in real life, it is no longer a secret that a lot of manipulation is carried out by groups of people for personal gain and those who do it are people who have strong power.
However, the ending is not always the same, some succeed and some fail.
Market manipulation is a common thing and we often see it, and many people fail because of this manipulation if the person doing it does not have strong enough power.
About 20 years ago, when automated trading was poorly developed, even inexperienced traders were allowed to trade with big money. Even they could move small-cap stocks. I think in those wild times there was a lot of chaos going on in the markets. Some of them didn't even realize much, although the small traders thought that it was someone very influential who was making big candles down and up.

When they talk about market manipulation, I immediately remember how in 1992 George Soros decided to play on the fall of the pound sterling, collapsing the British currency to its historical low. In one day he managed to earn $1 billion. That's who really manipulated the market. People of this order try not to make their personalities widely known. Therefore, there are many such stories, but we do not know their names, and perhaps we will never know.
sr. member
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What happens in the film is something that has happened in real life, it is no longer a secret that a lot of manipulation is carried out by groups of people for personal gain and those who do it are people who have strong power.
However, the ending is not always the same, some succeed and some fail.
Market manipulation is a common thing and we often see it, and many people fail because of this manipulation if the person doing it does not have strong enough power.
A film is a story scenario which, before it is shown, has been prepared deliberately from beginning to end and I think this will have nothing in common with the manipulation that occurs in the market because any market condition is always tied to turmoil and events that can affect the economy. So that unexpected or unexpected changes can continue to occur due to causes that we are not aware of.
I think market manipulation is common knowledge. But market manipulation is actually more common in stock and crypto trading. Where the price is inflated gradually and attracts victims to join the rising wave. And when people start to hype and more and more people enter the market and make prices rise without any definite reason or without any fundamental news. And we should avoid trades that have such characteristics. Because the price is prone to being dropped quickly.

Meanwhile, in traditional markets, such as food prices, market manipulation is actually more difficult. Because it requires greater capital, such as to stock a food product in large quantities, this reduces market supply and makes market stock insufficient to meet all customer demand in the market. And that's when prices will balloon high. And when the price is high enough, people even start to think about stocking up on materials because they are afraid that the price will rise even higher. And that's when the manipulator will take advantage by selling products that he has stocked in large quantities. But this will be done in certain stages. But in traditional markets there is rarely a rapid price decline like in the stock and crypto markets. So market manipulation sometimes goes unnoticed and prices will fall slowly and appear to be normal.
hero member
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Is the current situation similar to scenes like the films you have watched? If true, you will definitely know the ending. However, it is true, the market is very volatile, especially if BTC goes down and this is very clearly visible in altcoins whose fundamentals are minimal.
I don't understand the parable you are saying, because what I see now is that the market conditions for Bitcoin prices look like ocean waves with ups and downs every day. I mean everyone can see the action of very modest increases and decreases in the price of Bitcoin, but I would still really like to see Bitcoin back to $30K before the month is out.

What happens in the film is something that has happened in real life, it is no longer a secret that a lot of manipulation is carried out by groups of people for personal gain and those who do it are people who have strong power.
However, the ending is not always the same, some succeed and some fail.
Market manipulation is a common thing and we often see it, and many people fail because of this manipulation if the person doing it does not have strong enough power.
A film is a story scenario which, before it is shown, has been prepared deliberately from beginning to end and I think this will have nothing in common with the manipulation that occurs in the market because any market condition is always tied to turmoil and events that can affect the economy. So that unexpected or unexpected changes can continue to occur due to causes that we are not aware of.
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In a movie scene, I once saw a scene that included how whales manipulate the stock market. They also pay the media to make articles about the stocks they manipulate and as a result these stocks can really attract a lot of investment from people who are tempted by the content. from the media they pay for and this is also not much different from in the real world, there are many manipulations created on commodities, stock markets and also currencies, so investors usually always read the latest news about economics and politics which can affect the assets which they invest in.

Is the current situation similar to scenes like the films you have watched? If true, you will definitely know the ending. However, it is true, the market is very volatile, especially if BTC goes down and this is very clearly visible in altcoins whose fundamentals are minimal.
What happens in the film is something that has happened in real life, it is no longer a secret that a lot of manipulation is carried out by groups of people for personal gain and those who do it are people who have strong power.
However, the ending is not always the same, some succeed and some fail.
Market manipulation is a common thing and we often see it, and many people fail because of this manipulation if the person doing it does not have strong enough power.
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In a movie scene, I once saw a scene that included how whales manipulate the stock market. They also pay the media to make articles about the stocks they manipulate and as a result these stocks can really attract a lot of investment from people who are tempted by the content. from the media they pay for and this is also not much different from in the real world, there are many manipulations created on commodities, stock markets and also currencies, so investors usually always read the latest news about economics and politics which can affect the assets which they invest in.

Is the current situation similar to scenes like the films you have watched? If true, you will definitely know the ending. However, it is true, the market is very volatile, especially if BTC goes down and this is very clearly visible in altcoins whose fundamentals are minimal.
sr. member
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What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?
To the best of my understanding, market manipulation can take place in a wide range of markets, from commodity, Forex to cryptocurrencies. It is not limited to any country or market type. However, the impact of market manipulation can vary widely depending on the specific context and regulatory environment in a particular location. It is generally perceived that individuals or entities with substantial financial resources, can leverage their financial clout to manipulate prices in their favor.
It is everywhere not only on those markets that you mentioned or financial market as a whole. It is not limited to one country but I believe any country has it, even if not on the same field (E.g in the financial market). Manipulation are a bad thing even if it's only small but a small one is better than the big one's because people can hardly feel it's effect.

A huge capital or money is mainly the root of these manipulations but we still can do something to prevent it. If only we won't be greedy and don't take the shady offers by these manipulators, they will not be successful with their attempts. Our lives will be much better this way. In term's of crypto market, many of us are not involved with it, like for example in Bitcoin manipulation but we are only riding it and we still can benefit with it.

It's literally everywhere, every country have that kind of market manipulation. Just imsgine this, we all know that the government there's always a toxic thing that exist, and we called it corruption by that they could just simply manipulate the market for them to cover up their mess cause people eventually question what happened to the funds so they would just simply manipulate the market, and increase the taxations. As they have the power and authority, they could easily manipulate the market as well the citizen of the country. But we being affected by that so we'll prefer to a decentralized system which is Bitcoin where the market manipulation could be profitable.
legendary
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What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?
To the best of my understanding, market manipulation can take place in a wide range of markets, from commodity, Forex to cryptocurrencies. It is not limited to any country or market type. However, the impact of market manipulation can vary widely depending on the specific context and regulatory environment in a particular location. It is generally perceived that individuals or entities with substantial financial resources, can leverage their financial clout to manipulate prices in their favor.
It is everywhere not only on those markets that you mentioned or financial market as a whole. It is not limited to one country but I believe any country has it, even if not on the same field (E.g in the financial market). Manipulation are a bad thing even if it's only small but a small one is better than the big one's because people can hardly feel it's effect.

A huge capital or money is mainly the root of these manipulations but we still can do something to prevent it. If only we won't be greedy and don't take the shady offers by these manipulators, they will not be successful with their attempts. Our lives will be much better this way. In term's of crypto market, many of us are not involved with it, like for example in Bitcoin manipulation but we are only riding it and we still can benefit with it.
sr. member
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Advertising and marketing is not market manipulation, it is a strategy to attract more potential consumers thereby expanding the reach of the target market. Maybe in practice there are several marketing techniques to manipulate people's minds to encourage them to buy the product. But still it doesn't have a direct influence on statistics, it's just a possibility.
I agree that advertisement isn't a kind of market manipulation. There is nothing wrong with advertisement, it is a common way to invite more people joining/using a product/service. If people think an advertisement is convincing enough, they will follow it. While if the advertisement seems not interesting, people probably ignore it. So, it doesn't automatically increases the number of customers/demands, it depends on how effective and how the quality of the content of an advertisement.

It is different with market manipulation, it is the action that make an automatically raise/drop of the demand. For example when the whales manipulated the market, the price of a coin can free fall because whales are spreading FUDs through social media. Or the whales are trying to dump the price of a certain coin by selling a big number of the coin.

So, the way of an advertising (advertisement) and market manipulation are quite different.


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In every market there's a possible of manipulation of course those are the people who hold the large number of numbers but they are not dumb enough to make sell or buy immediately still there's a marketing strategy right there for example those people who made an investment in the dip and they create a post that they bought this coin and those scalpers and fomo investors will make an investment too and sooner or later once the price goes up they make a good sell in the highest price. This is just example what we most likely experience in investments with people with large amount of percentage hodlers.

In a movie scene, I once saw a scene that included how whales manipulate the stock market. They also pay the media to make articles about the stocks they manipulate and as a result these stocks can really attract a lot of investment from people who are tempted by the content. from the media they pay for and this is also not much different from in the real world, there are many manipulations created on commodities, stock markets and also currencies, so investors usually always read the latest news about economics and politics which can affect the assets which they invest in.
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?
While market manipulation is considered negative by many, some consider it a strategy for their business. Market manipulation is a very familiar term in trading platforms or financial fields. If someone does such a thing for profit then there is no chance to call him guilty. Because trading involves buying at low prices and selling at high prices. However, it is not possible to control the market in any way without a large investment in any such work. Therefore, it is not possible to control the market in the case of an individual investor. However, if a group of institutional or whale investors try to manipulate it, they can be somewhat successful. Moreover they can take some advantage from the market if they want by following the market trend and by providing some fake news.
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?
Of course, manipulation happens almost every second. But the thing is, while big "whales" might sway markets temporarily, major well know coins with high marketcap like Bitcoin bounces back and recovers from the manipulation easily. I mean, those coins are affected temporarily because of the decentralized nature of the market. It's the smaller ones, like meme coins and low market cap cryptos, that are super vulnerable to these kinds of manipulation. They can be easily manipulated and controlled. Stick to coins that everyone use, and maybe you might be able to take advantage of the manipulation...
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All markets are manipulated including the crypto market because this is an investment business and manipulation is normal, the market exists because there is someone or many people who make money from the existence of the market. And this manipulation benefits those who have capital, information or insider information and aims to gain huge profits, and freedom of manipulation in crypto because no one regulates it.
and the way they manipulate the market like everyone says, basically what they do is when a group of investors decides to increase the value of a cryptocurrency to trick people into buying it at a high price, and will sell it suddenly.
Actually, people who have the power to manipulate a certain market do it this way; they buy at the market price, then start selling very low, and when other sellers see that they are selling way lower than them, they start reducing their prices as well, and then the manipulators buy everything from the sellers that are selling low, and then they start selling them higher than the initial market price, and that is how they earn profit over their investments.

Those who manage to stay safe from such manipulations and don't become a victim of the traps manage to earn some money as well, but most small-scale traders become victims of their tactics because they sell low with the fear that the market might crash further and that is how the manipulators get success.
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All markets are manipulated including the crypto market because this is an investment business and manipulation is normal, the market exists because there is someone or many people who make money from the existence of the market. And this manipulation benefits those who have capital, information or insider information and aims to gain huge profits, and freedom of manipulation in crypto because no one regulates it.
and the way they manipulate the market like everyone says, basically what they do is when a group of investors decides to increase the value of a cryptocurrency to trick people into buying it at a high price, and will sell it suddenly.
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When you see market manipulation, what can you do to avoid getting caught in the middle of the manipulation if you still want to buy the coin? Myself When I look at altcoin prices in particular there is a lot of bot activity on certain coins in certain markets, this makes it very difficult for me to buy, for example bots place larger buy or sell orders before my buy or sell order, thereby pushing the price up or down .
That feeling is valid and whenever you see that, you have to take your own action of avoiding that.
Because it could have been a trap that's just been waiting to happen and you'll be stuck in the middle of it without having any consolation.
But, you'll have to take and bear with the losses that you're about to have as you have seen it coming through.
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This is true, manipulation can happen anywhere and have different effects. Market manipulation, for example, can have a good effect on others but can also have a negative effect on some. Moreover, market manipulation can be big or small depending on how much changes it may cause. And yes, cryptocurrency can be manipulated in some ways as well.

Because cryptocurrency can also be manipulated in several ways by certain parties, as cryptocurrency users we must continue to research carefully so that we can find out what things are often used by certain parties to manipulate them. These are the methods that we need to know now so that we don't fall into this manipulation because we are users who use cryptocurrencies very often in the market.

The impact does exist and is also very real because it aims to maximize profits for the perpetrator of the manipulation by causing harm to other people so I will not say that this will have a good impact on certain parties because every thing that is done using bad methods must be it is still considered bad even if one party benefits from it.
Market manipulation is much common with cryptocurrency. Particularly this can be experienced much with altcoins are centralized. The real manipulation can be experienced when the entire market is bearish and one particular altcoin bounce. If we go deep we'll come to know that particular altcoin doesn't even have a minimum viable product. Apart from this we will be able to see good number of dump and bumping service providers. The impact of those groups won't be that big, but to some extent it helps with manipulation.
Yes, it's true, market manipulation is common, even the media also manipulates markets, most of which are owned and controlled by people. Obvious market manipulation is common in these traders' playgrounds, but it helps to have a solid understanding of fundamental tactics so that the average us can at least have a fighting chance.

When you see market manipulation, what can you do to avoid getting caught in the middle of the manipulation if you still want to buy the coin? Myself When I look at altcoin prices in particular there is a lot of bot activity on certain coins in certain markets, this makes it very difficult for me to buy, for example bots place larger buy or sell orders before my buy or sell order, thereby pushing the price up or down .
Market manipulation is only can be possibly be seen or would really be that obvious on the time that sentiments do flew around but if there's nothing that you could see or simply move out without any sentiments around or really just that random then for sure you would definitely get surprised on what actually happened. We know that manipulation is really that somewhat rampant on whatever market that we are dealing with and knowing that there are several types then there's no really exemption to that on which it would really be just that normal that there would really be those people or institutions who do really love on taking advantage and knowing that they do have that financial capacity then it wont really be an issue to move markets accordingly.

On the time that you had noticed that it is really a possible act of manipulation then riding with the waves cant really be determined easily specially if you are a short term trader then this movements would really be that something preferred but if you are that someone who do hold for long term then this is something that wont really be bothering you. Not all would really be that wise and mindful
on the actions that they would be making on the time that they would be able to encounter such situation.
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When you see market manipulation, what can you do to avoid getting caught in the middle of the manipulation if you still want to buy the coin?
The sole course of action I find viable, and perhaps more substantiated than others, is fundamental analysis. Indeed, everyone has their reasons for investing in cryptocurrencies, and one of the compelling rationales is the fundamentals of the related crypto asset.

Market manipulation may occur to distort or shape candlestick patterns in the desired direction. While this may seem achievable, its nature is only transient. Nothing can halt the fundamentals of a company or the related crypto asset. If the crypto or the associated company is genuinely robust, manipulators need not swim against the current. Even if they are powerful, they should not expend further resources opposing the tide of fundamental strength.
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By definition, I think that market manipulation always happens even the people that doesn't know about it are actively participating in market manipulation, what I mean is that people that are buying goods and services are the reason why the market moves so if there's an advertisement for a product or service then in a way it can be a way that the marketers manipulate the market. So in a way, market manipulation happens everywhere and it's a common occurrence.
Basically, marketing strategy is the key to boosting sales of a product. There are many marketing strategy systems that immediately stick to our memories, so we buy them and apparently this is also experienced by many people, thus moving the market simultaneously and causing big movements. This is something that usually happens in a business, and then it depends on whether the product is able to survive and gain the trust of future consumers
In developing a business, of course everyone has a different marketing strategy to market the results of their production, some succeed in attracting interest from their consumers and there are also those who fail in marketing their goods. If they have good production and are successful in marketing, of course they will make a profit for their business. If the goods they produce are goods that are sought after by consumers, of course they will be able to survive for a long time in the business they have built and this can be profitable for consumers and business actors.
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This is true, manipulation can happen anywhere and have different effects. Market manipulation, for example, can have a good effect on others but can also have a negative effect on some. Moreover, market manipulation can be big or small depending on how much changes it may cause. And yes, cryptocurrency can be manipulated in some ways as well.

Because cryptocurrency can also be manipulated in several ways by certain parties, as cryptocurrency users we must continue to research carefully so that we can find out what things are often used by certain parties to manipulate them. These are the methods that we need to know now so that we don't fall into this manipulation because we are users who use cryptocurrencies very often in the market.

The impact does exist and is also very real because it aims to maximize profits for the perpetrator of the manipulation by causing harm to other people so I will not say that this will have a good impact on certain parties because every thing that is done using bad methods must be it is still considered bad even if one party benefits from it.
Market manipulation is much common with cryptocurrency. Particularly this can be experienced much with altcoins are centralized. The real manipulation can be experienced when the entire market is bearish and one particular altcoin bounce. If we go deep we'll come to know that particular altcoin doesn't even have a minimum viable product. Apart from this we will be able to see good number of dump and bumping service providers. The impact of those groups won't be that big, but to some extent it helps with manipulation.
Yes, it's true, market manipulation is common, even the media also manipulates markets, most of which are owned and controlled by people. Obvious market manipulation is common in these traders' playgrounds, but it helps to have a solid understanding of fundamental tactics so that the average us can at least have a fighting chance.

When you see market manipulation, what can you do to avoid getting caught in the middle of the manipulation if you still want to buy the coin? Myself When I look at altcoin prices in particular there is a lot of bot activity on certain coins in certain markets, this makes it very difficult for me to buy, for example bots place larger buy or sell orders before my buy or sell order, thereby pushing the price up or down .
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