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January 26, 2017, 10:25:38 PM
For me noo are you curious about science why did you ask this here? if you really are why don't you direcly ask those scientist ? And i know Scientist are beliving in god exist trust me Smiley they really believed on faith too.

I agree. a lot of scientists wont agree that science contradicts religion. I think there will come a time that these two would back each other up to prove that there is a greater being than any of us. I think if we don't actually take religion's teachings too literally, we may find a connection between these two.

also the defenition of religion is uniting people with one understanding that is we must believe in god, the father almighty. But if you would look up at science, science is just making things or studying things that is questionable to the humans. We know that some of humans dont believes in god because they say that god doesnt exist. Thescience is answering does like questions
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January 26, 2017, 09:09:16 PM
For me noo are you curious about science why did you ask this here? if you really are why don't you direcly ask those scientist ? And i know Scientist are beliving in god exist trust me Smiley they really believed on faith too.

I agree. a lot of scientists wont agree that science contradicts religion. I think there will come a time that these two would back each other up to prove that there is a greater being than any of us. I think if we don't actually take religion's teachings too literally, we may find a connection between these two.

It is about what we are going to believe on, or what will we going to trust on. We all know that science have a lot of difference between the religion. Every religion has their own beliefs, and every field of science there is a theory or hypothesis. We all know that we should separate the science and the religion. In fact, religious beliefs and science beliefs have their own beliefs and facts.
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January 26, 2017, 12:04:10 PM
For me noo are you curious about science why did you ask this here? if you really are why don't you direcly ask those scientist ? And i know Scientist are beliving in god exist trust me Smiley they really believed on faith too.

I agree. a lot of scientists wont agree that science contradicts religion. I think there will come a time that these two would back each other up to prove that there is a greater being than any of us. I think if we don't actually take religion's teachings too literally, we may find a connection between these two.
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January 26, 2017, 11:32:17 AM
For me noo are you curious about science why did you ask this here? if you really are why don't you direcly ask those scientist ? And i know Scientist are beliving in god exist trust me Smiley they really believed on faith too.
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January 25, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
Why does all of this have to be made? All of this just exists and has existed long before we were around, long before we thought of a god. When we are all gone and our non existent souls are also gone no one will know. Yet all of this will still be here for eternity. Just like it was before we got here.

Hoomans - so much want to be important and loved. stoopid animals.

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January 25, 2017, 02:15:31 PM
No, science is not a religion.

A religion is something that people create to believe in someone and to lean against something in difficult times.

Science is something that some very smart people try to explain (according to their best knowledge and certain) how the world was created.

Absolutely right! Science is not religion. But when people start to believe science non-facts to be factual, especially when they KNOW that the non-facts are not factual, and especially when they become adamant ijn expression that the non-facts are factual, they have formed a science religion for themselves.

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Yes it is not a religion, science is just study of all things in this world but not a religion because religion is all about the mystery and glorious of God but science contradicts to the religion. Almost all scientists don't believe in God but they believe that all has come to existence because of Science.

Well i can't really agree that scientists dont believe in god here as some of them credit whatever science accomplishes to a supreme being. For me science is based on facts and religiin is based on faith. Theres a wide gap between these two for the longest time. For me though, it dorsnt have to be that when you support scientific facts, you dont believe in god. For me belief in god is not just about religion. I believe in god and someone who is higher than above us and i support the facts science offers. 
Sounds like you want to be someones BITCH?.. I believe in god and someone who is higher than above us..

And then it makes you wonder why all these politicians and leaders rob our taxes..someone who is higher than above us Roll Eyes..

I find if you talk to the wall you get the same effect as talking to god Wink..

No real scientist can believe in god Wink..
If you mention past scientist like 100 years ago it wont count..
To not be into god was dangerous in the olden days it could get you killed..

Now to say something made all this and then call it some type of god you are making your own god up?..

Now imagine a fuzzy ball of light caused the big bang or made the universe is the fuzzy ball of light god?..Well your saying it is?..Something must of made all this?..So if it was the fuzzy ball of light is it god?..
Now would you build a building and go and worship it ? and sing to it and make up stories about it?..

See we have gone from people saying god who was in the bible to well something made all this so must be a god..So what if it's a fuzzy ball of light is that your gods then?..

Something must of made all this?.. Obviously and with science we will find out Wink..

But to make a god up is stupid..Talk to the wall you get the same affect Grin..
Maybe that's why the Jews do it..Talk to the wall they get more answers Cheesy Cheesy..




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January 25, 2017, 01:24:16 PM
While many in main stream science claim to be atheist and believe in the Big Bang and the eventual Deep Freeze due to entropy. Is it not curious to consider that the very underpinnings of this belief is based on mathematics, was it too created in the big bang? if so how was it constructed? one digit at a time?

I think not it has always been there and will always remain its an eternal masterpiece that permeates every conceivable facet or reality yet in its self it is purely abstract. Without it nothing would exist, but it in itself it is nonexistent and existent at the same time. It is the language of the living universe. Its permutations are infinite, yet it did not grow, it has always been complete and eternal.         

Science is not a religion, if it was then we would have churches of the big bang and worshipers going there to pray to their big bang deity.

Religion is the blind belief in a deity.

Science is a fact finding process, it has nothing to do with deities.

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January 25, 2017, 07:21:02 AM
No, science is not a religion.

A religion is something that people create to believe in someone and to lean against something in difficult times.

Science is something that some very smart people try to explain (according to their best knowledge and certain) how the world was created.

Absolutely right! Science is not religion. But when people start to believe science non-facts to be factual, especially when they KNOW that the non-facts are not factual, and especially when they become adamant ijn expression that the non-facts are factual, they have formed a science religion for themselves.

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Yes it is not a religion, science is just study of all things in this world but not a religion because religion is all about the mystery and glorious of God but science contradicts to the religion. Almost all scientists don't believe in God but they believe that all has come to existence because of Science.

Well i can't really agree that scientists dont believe in god here as some of them credit whatever science accomplishes to a supreme being. For me science is based on facts and religiin is based on faith. Theres a wide gap between these two for the longest time. For me though, it dorsnt have to be that when you support scientific facts, you dont believe in god. For me belief in god is not just about religion. I believe in god and someone who is higher than above us and i support the facts science offers. 
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January 25, 2017, 07:13:36 AM
no but still more logic than most of the others
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January 24, 2017, 10:14:06 PM
No, science is not a religion.

A religion is something that people create to believe in someone and to lean against something in difficult times.

Science is something that some very smart people try to explain (according to their best knowledge and certain) how the world was created.

Absolutely right! Science is not religion. But when people start to believe science non-facts to be factual, especially when they KNOW that the non-facts are not factual, and especially when they become adamant ijn expression that the non-facts are factual, they have formed a science religion for themselves.

Cool
Yes it is not a religion, science is just study of all things in this world but not a religion because religion is all about the mystery and glorious of God but science contradicts to the religion. Almost all scientists don't believe in God but they believe that all has come to existence because of Science.

but they believe that all has come to existence because of Science..WE DO Grin..
Don't you want to know how we come to be Grin..existence of Science..
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January 24, 2017, 09:59:43 PM
No, science is not a religion.

A religion is something that people create to believe in someone and to lean against something in difficult times.

Science is something that some very smart people try to explain (according to their best knowledge and certain) how the world was created.

Absolutely right! Science is not religion. But when people start to believe science non-facts to be factual, especially when they KNOW that the non-facts are not factual, and especially when they become adamant ijn expression that the non-facts are factual, they have formed a science religion for themselves.

Cool
Yes it is not a religion, science is just study of all things in this world but not a religion because religion is all about the mystery and glorious of God but science contradicts to the religion. Almost all scientists don't believe in God but they believe that all has come to existence because of Science.
legendary
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January 24, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
No, science is not a religion.

A religion is something that people create to believe in someone and to lean against something in difficult times.

Science is something that some very smart people try to explain (according to their best knowledge and certain) how the world was created.

Absolutely right! Science is not religion. But when people start to believe science non-facts to be factual, especially when they KNOW that the non-facts are not factual,LIKE THE BIBLE Grin and especially when they become adamant ijn expression that the non-facts are factual,LIKE RELIGIOUS FREAKS Grin they have formed a science religion for themselves.LIKE RELIGION OF GOD Grin

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You have finally admitted that god is non-facts Grin..

science non-facts to be factual..I DO NOT COMPUTE beep beep beep beep i need proof i need proof..
legendary
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January 24, 2017, 07:33:13 PM
No, science is not a religion.

A religion is something that people create to believe in someone and to lean against something in difficult times.

Science is something that some very smart people try to explain (according to their best knowledge and certain) how the world was created.

Absolutely right! Science is not religion. But when people start to believe science non-facts to be factual, especially when they KNOW that the non-facts are not factual, and especially when they become adamant ijn expression that the non-facts are factual, they have formed a science religion for themselves.

Cool
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January 24, 2017, 06:06:33 PM
No, science is not a religion.

A religion is something that people create to believe in someone and to lean against something in difficult times.

Science is something that some very smart people try to explain (according to their best knowledge and certain) how the world was created.
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January 24, 2017, 12:06:10 PM
Who denies the science of religion. Some mystery solution is not possible without religion, science, and religion is complementary to one another. Birth gives some sense atheism of science, it is not just those who are atheists atheist it for ever, and they assert that atheism in the name of science. So there is no conflict between science and religion.
The conflict between science and religion is not and cannot be. Scientists are not contentious people. Religious organizations in conflict with other including with scientists because they are afraid of losing power over the people.

What? You never watched two scientists arguing about who is right regarding some theory?

Essentially, religion is simply doing and living what one believes to be the truth.

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January 24, 2017, 12:02:17 PM
Science and religion are essentially one and the same thing and can be used interchangeably in any context.

Where do you people get such ideas?

Science is about finding the truth via evidence & experimentation, and correctly predicting future results (like cosmic background radiation)

Religion is about telling stories which are bullshit, have zero scientific merit, and are not capable of predicting anything

You're not looking at it from a fundamental perspective.
 
Both religion and science are systems of belief/faith. You believe in science, you believe in God.
Getting on a plane and while not fully understanding how it all works, requires what would qualify as 'faith'. Taking a pill when ill, requires faith in science because you have no idea how the chemicals work.

Both science and religion are systems of reason. Religion is not random, it follows a logic.

Both science and religion rely on assumptions.
No experiment/test in science can ever be truly conclusive. You can perform a test a million times and get the exact same result every time but there is absolutely no guarantee that on the million and one attempt, you'll get the expected result. Since there is no way to test something infinitely, science assumes a particular result to be true after a finite number of tests. That is why nothing in science is set in stone, theories that were once thought to be complete can still be improved upon as more tests are performed and new findings are uncovered.



Religion is a system that demands that you as a reasonble person give up/surrender your reasoning ability. This logic that religion follows is full blown shit.


That's why believing science theory to be fact, when one knows that it is not known to be fact, is giving up your reasoning ability for faith. There is religion in believing science theories to be factual without knowing it.

Cool

Scientific theories are questioned, validated in the lab.  When there is no experiment to disprove them, them become a scientific fact.  Evolution is a very good example.


Evolution is a good example of what? Being disproved - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0? Evolution in the lab being proven, is only an example of how the definition of "evolution" has been changed over the years, because it was found that the old definition was easily proven false. So, even the definition of evolution is evolving. Wullah! Proof for evolution.

Your explanation of how science theories work is only partially correct, just like the theories themselves. Beginning to think that you are just a theory.

Cool

i think evolution is changing from time to time, it could be for the better one or for the bad one. science theories is just a theory meaning not yet proven and in the progress of research. where theories are just an intellectual guess, they are just basing on what they are seeing.

Much of the time, science theories are made up of two or more science laws. These laws are joined together in a way that nobody knows can work. It seems logical that it might work this way, but nobody knows it for sure. That is why the theory is called a theory, until it is prove that the science laws can work together this new way.

Cool

this is what im talking about. you cant just judge the existence of science without any proof or basing to other things. scientist research long time just to make our world better, you cant just judge their researches that short period of time when you only have just a theory. scientist is basing their theory on what they guess that can be proven. they dont conduct an experiment if they know that it couldnt happen.

Scientists absolutely DO conduct experiments when they know something couldn't happen.

Nobody understands the process whereby the universe came into being. Scientists become scientists so that they can find out about the processes. Why do they want to find out? Because the universe is an impossibility, except that it exists.

So far, the only evidence and proof that we have that the universe can exist is, it is that it is here.

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January 24, 2017, 11:54:19 AM
Who denies the science of religion. Some mystery solution is not possible without religion, science, and religion is complementary to one another. Birth gives some sense atheism of science, it is not just those who are atheists atheist it for ever, and they assert that atheism in the name of science. So there is no conflict between science and religion.
The conflict between science and religion is not and cannot be. Scientists are not contentious people. Religious organizations in conflict with other including with scientists because they are afraid of losing power over the people.
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January 24, 2017, 11:48:48 AM
Science and religion are essentially one and the same thing and can be used interchangeably in any context.

Where do you people get such ideas?

Science is about finding the truth via evidence & experimentation, and correctly predicting future results (like cosmic background radiation)

Religion is about telling stories which are bullshit, have zero scientific merit, and are not capable of predicting anything

You're not looking at it from a fundamental perspective.
 
Both religion and science are systems of belief/faith. You believe in science, you believe in God.
Getting on a plane and while not fully understanding how it all works, requires what would qualify as 'faith'. Taking a pill when ill, requires faith in science because you have no idea how the chemicals work.

Both science and religion are systems of reason. Religion is not random, it follows a logic.

Both science and religion rely on assumptions.
No experiment/test in science can ever be truly conclusive. You can perform a test a million times and get the exact same result every time but there is absolutely no guarantee that on the million and one attempt, you'll get the expected result. Since there is no way to test something infinitely, science assumes a particular result to be true after a finite number of tests. That is why nothing in science is set in stone, theories that were once thought to be complete can still be improved upon as more tests are performed and new findings are uncovered.



Religion is a system that demands that you as a reasonble person give up/surrender your reasoning ability. This logic that religion follows is full blown shit.


That's why believing science theory to be fact, when one knows that it is not known to be fact, is giving up your reasoning ability for faith. There is religion in believing science theories to be factual without knowing it.

Cool

Scientific theories are questioned, validated in the lab.  When there is no experiment to disprove them, them become a scientific fact.  Evolution is a very good example.


Evolution is a good example of what? Being disproved - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0? Evolution in the lab being proven, is only an example of how the definition of "evolution" has been changed over the years, because it was found that the old definition was easily proven false. So, even the definition of evolution is evolving. Wullah! Proof for evolution.

Your explanation of how science theories work is only partially correct, just like the theories themselves. Beginning to think that you are just a theory.

Cool

i think evolution is changing from time to time, it could be for the better one or for the bad one. science theories is just a theory meaning not yet proven and in the progress of research. where theories are just an intellectual guess, they are just basing on what they are seeing.

Much of the time, science theories are made up of two or more science laws. These laws are joined together in a way that nobody knows can work. It seems logical that it might work this way, but nobody knows it for sure. That is why the theory is called a theory, until it is prove that the science laws can work together this new way.

Cool

this is what im talking about. you cant just judge the existence of science without any proof or basing to other things. scientist research long time just to make our world better, you cant just judge their researches that short period of time when you only have just a theory. scientist is basing their theory on what they guess that can be proven. they dont conduct an experiment if they know that it couldnt happen.
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January 24, 2017, 11:21:19 AM
Science and religion are essentially one and the same thing and can be used interchangeably in any context.

Where do you people get such ideas?

Science is about finding the truth via evidence & experimentation, and correctly predicting future results (like cosmic background radiation)

Religion is about telling stories which are bullshit, have zero scientific merit, and are not capable of predicting anything

You're not looking at it from a fundamental perspective.
 
Both religion and science are systems of belief/faith. You believe in science, you believe in God.
Getting on a plane and while not fully understanding how it all works, requires what would qualify as 'faith'. Taking a pill when ill, requires faith in science because you have no idea how the chemicals work.

Both science and religion are systems of reason. Religion is not random, it follows a logic.

Both science and religion rely on assumptions.
No experiment/test in science can ever be truly conclusive. You can perform a test a million times and get the exact same result every time but there is absolutely no guarantee that on the million and one attempt, you'll get the expected result. Since there is no way to test something infinitely, science assumes a particular result to be true after a finite number of tests. That is why nothing in science is set in stone, theories that were once thought to be complete can still be improved upon as more tests are performed and new findings are uncovered.



Religion is a system that demands that you as a reasonble person give up/surrender your reasoning ability. This logic that religion follows is full blown shit.


That's why believing science theory to be fact, when one knows that it is not known to be fact, is giving up your reasoning ability for faith. There is religion in believing science theories to be factual without knowing it.

Cool

Scientific theories are questioned, validated in the lab.  When there is no experiment to disprove them, them become a scientific fact.  Evolution is a very good example.


Evolution is a good example of what? Being disproved - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0? Evolution in the lab being proven, is only an example of how the definition of "evolution" has been changed over the years, because it was found that the old definition was easily proven false. So, even the definition of evolution is evolving. Wullah! Proof for evolution.

Your explanation of how science theories work is only partially correct, just like the theories themselves. Beginning to think that you are just a theory.

Cool

i think evolution is changing from time to time, it could be for the better one or for the bad one. science theories is just a theory meaning not yet proven and in the progress of research. where theories are just an intellectual guess, they are just basing on what they are seeing.

Much of the time, science theories are made up of two or more science laws. These laws are joined together in a way that nobody knows can work. It seems logical that it might work this way, but nobody knows it for sure. That is why the theory is called a theory, until it is prove that the science laws can work together this new way.

Cool
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January 24, 2017, 10:22:28 AM
Who denies the science of religion. Some mystery solution is not possible without religion, science, and religion is complementary to one another. Birth gives some sense atheism of science, it is not just those who are atheists atheist it for ever, and they assert that atheism in the name of science. So there is no conflict between science and religion.
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