Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? - page 23.

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Quote from: JackDempsey on August 29, 2016, 07:42:03 AM

Quote from: Arcteryx on July 16, 2016, 07:21:57 PM

I would hope so Shocked

After all bitcoin is equal to money. Cause what if someone who ran a ponzi scheme and took in 250 BTC from people. Would that not be seen as a crime? That is theft I would say for sure and maybe even a conviction of fraud directed towards the investors of that scheme.

I dont think stealing bitcoins is illegal because they dont even know what to think about the bitcoin them self is that not illegal i dont think they can track your coins back so if they steal it ylou cant get them back and that is the most reason why people are also using more walllets.

Stealing is stealing whether it be bitcoin or anything, and by law, stealing is an illegal or an act of criminality. Even if nobody can actually trace who you are from what you did, it still doesn't mean that you can do it.

People use more wallets for security reasons and for other reasons as well, not just to get away from stealing because obviously, it's not that easy to crack open your wallet unless you generally give away too much information about it.

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I dont think stealing bitcoins can be seen as illegal because there are allot of activities going aroung with the bitcoin that are also not really legal so i dont know how you can see something as ilegal and legal with the bitcoin.

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Quote from: JackDempsey on August 29, 2016, 07:42:03 AM

Quote from: Arcteryx on July 16, 2016, 07:21:57 PM

I would hope so Shocked

After all bitcoin is equal to money. Cause what if someone who ran a ponzi scheme and took in 250 BTC from people. Would that not be seen as a crime? That is theft I would say for sure and maybe even a conviction of fraud directed towards the investors of that scheme.

I dont think stealing bitcoins is illegal because they dont even know what to think about the bitcoin them self is that not illegal i dont think they can track your coins back so if they steal it ylou cant get them back and that is the most reason why people are also using more walllets.

of course it is illegal, it is still a property and i think that you might have a lot of trouble with law if you stole some bitcoins from others

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Quote from: Arcteryx on July 16, 2016, 07:21:57 PM

I would hope so Shocked

After all bitcoin is equal to money. Cause what if someone who ran a ponzi scheme and took in 250 BTC from people. Would that not be seen as a crime? That is theft I would say for sure and maybe even a conviction of fraud directed towards the investors of that scheme.

I dont think stealing bitcoins is illegal because they dont even know what to think about the bitcoin them self is that not illegal i dont think they can track your coins back so if they steal it ylou cant get them back and that is the most reason why people are also using more walllets.

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Quote from: dc1a0 on August 26, 2016, 11:06:23 PM

This shouldn't even be a question of legal. Legal != right or moral. The fact that the OP even would need to ask this question says a lot about them. I can only hope they don't now or ever have kids. The world is already overflowing with this type of mentality.

yeah this will depend on everyone's individual because although bitcoin has no rules though and there is no legislation to law bitcoin. it does not mean that bitcoin legalized theft. I think it will depend on each person. is it they think that stealing will harm people or not

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Quote from: achow101 on July 16, 2016, 05:49:00 PM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:41:44 PM

Quote from: ImHacked on July 16, 2016, 05:38:30 PM

Any stealing act for anything to anyone is still illegal wether it is online pr not.All stealing avt is considered a crime as long as you dont have permissions of the real owner

The real owner? Who decides that if it's possible for me to generate the same address? Just because I generated it after shouldn't mean it's illegal. It's not like exploiting an online wallet to steal private keys and drain the accounts.

I feel like you guys are just guessing to be honest, I want to know if it's legal or illegal to take bitcoins out of an address you just generated. Tongue

It is neither legal nor illegal; there are no laws governing this. Furthermore, if there were laws regarding Bitcoin, it would vary from country to country even though Bitcoin is an neutral international currency.

Taking Bitcoin from an address that you generated that already had Bitcoin would be considered immoral and would be highly frowned upon by the Bitcoin community.

as every bitcoin user know is that you can steal someones bitcoins and they cant track it back and that means that you cant be punished by stealing someones bitcoins because they are all illegal so when you get rid of your bitcoins it is just a shame for your self cant do anything about it!

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Very silly question Grin

I think according to your assumption its not illegal. But a honest guy will not take others bitcoin Kiss

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Quote from: DomainMagnate on August 26, 2016, 06:55:27 AM

Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

Only difference is chances of your getting caught is less with Bitcoin.That is why bitcoin should be used with much care a needs to kept safely

OFcourse stealing bitcoin is generaly illegal where, you are stealing someones money , our parents thoughts us not to steal right hehehe so i am agree with mjqlqw , and bitcoin wallet should be used with so much care and it is our reponsibility if you are going to share it to everyone probably we are going to be trick

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Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

I think as long bitcoin has no law or rule in any country. bitcoin then when you steal from other people's personal wallet. it included illegal but as long as there is no rule in the legislation about bitcoin. then no one can imprison you

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Quote from: daneranon89 on August 29, 2016, 01:42:22 AM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Stealing is without a doubt illegal but if you happen to generate an address which happens to have some bitcoins (miracle), then may be send some back to the address which had send it to you. Let make this an even more miracle by assuming that there is no address of the sender and you just got it instantly. Then keep it dude! Enjoy!

That is not stealing if you will ask me and that is like a very low chance that it might happen. Are there any reports or someone claimed that this generated duplicate address did happen? I might want to read it if there is some.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on August 27, 2016, 06:14:41 AM

Quote from: blackjackboss on August 27, 2016, 05:58:04 AM

Quote from: bitcoin-shark on August 27, 2016, 05:09:19 AM

steel everything is illegal also virtual things but the probability to by catch is very low

Yeah, bitfinex hack is still out of jail, looks his life is thrilled, redeem the hack bitcoin ain't easy, maybe sell them on localbitcoin, but he will fear fbi to catch him.

If the country of hacker doesn't have law with bitcoin then he is going to be safe at all but if bitfinex is going to let this case go to fbi and they are going to file a case against him. Once he got traced by them for sure he is going to touch down the bars behind and going to be in jail. Because stealing is illegal regardless what thing is that.

Yes, but the hack can use bitcoin mixer to hide the identity and sell on the exchanges, actually it is plausible and they usually use this way to laundry money.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Stealing is without a doubt illegal but if you happen to generate an address which happens to have some bitcoins (miracle), then may be send some back to the address which had send it to you. Let make this an even more miracle by assuming that there is no address of the sender and you just got it instantly. Then keep it dude! Enjoy!

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What you were saying is not possible, I believe.
It can't happen that the same address can be generated twice.

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on August 27, 2016, 05:09:19 AM

steel everything is illegal also virtual things but the probability to by catch is very low

you are right, to be honest in my opinion stealing will always be a thing that is prohibited and you shouldnt even think about taking someones wealth

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on August 27, 2016, 06:14:41 AM

Quote from: blackjackboss on August 27, 2016, 05:58:04 AM

Quote from: bitcoin-shark on August 27, 2016, 05:09:19 AM

steel everything is illegal also virtual things but the probability to by catch is very low

Yeah, bitfinex hack is still out of jail, looks his life is thrilled, redeem the hack bitcoin ain't easy, maybe sell them on localbitcoin, but he will fear fbi to catch him.

If the country of hacker doesn't have law with bitcoin then he is going to be safe at all but if bitfinex is going to let this case go to fbi and they are going to file a case against him. Once he got traced by them for sure he is going to touch down the bars behind and going to be in jail. Because stealing is illegal regardless what thing is that.

Even those fbi would have a hard time to trace down those hackers on bitfinex incident since bitcoin transaction is completely anonymous, no hacker would be fool enough to leave trace and for sure he would withdraw all those hacked coins in different addresses. Back to Op's queries stealing is illegal in any way and in any matter no matter how big or small as long as you got those possession that does not belong to you even no one see you but stealing is illegal in any way.

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on August 27, 2016, 05:09:19 AM

steel everything is illegal also virtual things but the probability to by catch is very low

everyone know that stealing someones item or money is illegal this is the first lesson we got from our parent they teach us to be honest all the time because they want us to be good a we grow but if we are going to risk our selves in just a cent we much better we don't do it Cheesy

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Quote from: blackjackboss on August 27, 2016, 05:58:04 AM

Quote from: bitcoin-shark on August 27, 2016, 05:09:19 AM

steel everything is illegal also virtual things but the probability to by catch is very low

Yeah, bitfinex hack is still out of jail, looks his life is thrilled, redeem the hack bitcoin ain't easy, maybe sell them on localbitcoin, but he will fear fbi to catch him.

If the country of hacker doesn't have law with bitcoin then he is going to be safe at all but if bitfinex is going to let this case go to fbi and they are going to file a case against him. Once he got traced by them for sure he is going to touch down the bars behind and going to be in jail. Because stealing is illegal regardless what thing is that.

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on August 27, 2016, 05:09:19 AM

steel everything is illegal also virtual things but the probability to by catch is very low

Yeah, bitfinex hack is still out of jail, looks his life is thrilled, redeem the hack bitcoin ain't easy, maybe sell them on localbitcoin, but he will fear fbi to catch him.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Steeling is steeling, no matter what way you look at it. If you take something that is not yours, you are stealing it. There is no reason to lecture, but if this was me and I would have accidentally done this, I would post on a public forum about this and this way the rightful owner could make claim. If not found with in a certain amount of time, I would consider it free game to claim.

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steel everything is illegal also virtual things but the probability to by catch is very low

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