i think word "stealing" explains it all
theft is theft, no matter what you are stealing, its a crime
Topic: Is stealing bitcoins illegal? - page 3. (Read 9455 times)
Quite a large sum of existing bitcoins are stolen, so wouldn't it be a crime to accept bitcoins in the first place? 
It is not actually possible to "steal" bitcoin as bitcoin is fungible and do not physically exist. The same logic goes for accepting bitcoin that can be traced back to "stolen" bitcoin. What is illegal is the act of hacking a computer/some kind of account that contains a person's private keys. This is somewhat of a different crime, however generally will have similar, if not worse consequences
Well, if someone has his wallet on a usb pendrive, don't they exist physically throught that usb pendrive?
It's counter-intuitive. Even when I explain it to myself I don't get it
For example, if I mislead someone into sending me a large amount of bitcoins (in the United States) would that be illegal?
If I did not force them to do anything, but they sent them anticipating me to send a product in return, but I never send it.
Would this be considered illegal considering no one would know whether the bitcoin address that received the bitcoins was my address?
If I did not force them to do anything, but they sent them anticipating me to send a product in return, but I never send it.
Would this be considered illegal considering no one would know whether the bitcoin address that received the bitcoins was my address?
U can try, but g-d will probably take over and forbid it
Quite a large sum of existing bitcoins are stolen, so wouldn't it be a crime to accept bitcoins in the first place?
It is not actually possible to "steal" bitcoin as bitcoin is fungible and do not physically exist. The same logic goes for accepting bitcoin that can be traced back to "stolen" bitcoin. What is illegal is the act of hacking a computer/some kind of account that contains a person's private keys. This is somewhat of a different crime, however generally will have similar, if not worse consequences
Well, if someone has his wallet on a usb pendrive, don't they exist physically throught that usb pendrive?
Quite a large sum of existing bitcoins are stolen, so wouldn't it be a crime to accept bitcoins in the first place?
It is not actually possible to "steal" bitcoin as bitcoin is fungible and do not physically exist. The same logic goes for accepting bitcoin that can be traced back to "stolen" bitcoin. What is illegal is the act of hacking a computer/some kind of account that contains a person's private keys. This is somewhat of a different crime, however generally will have similar, if not worse consequences
Well, if someone has his wallet on a usb pendrive, don't they exist physically throught that usb pendrive?
Quite a large sum of existing bitcoins are stolen, so wouldn't it be a crime to accept bitcoins in the first place?
It is not actually possible to "steal" bitcoin as bitcoin is fungible and do not physically exist. The same logic goes for accepting bitcoin that can be traced back to "stolen" bitcoin. What is illegal is the act of hacking a computer/some kind of account that contains a person's private keys. This is somewhat of a different crime, however generally will have similar, if not worse consequences
Quite a large sum of existing bitcoins are stolen, so wouldn't it be a crime to accept bitcoins in the first place?
But bitcoins don't actually exist as such, but as spaces in a ledger with a transaction history. Or am I mistaken?
Quite a large sum of existing bitcoins are stolen, so wouldn't it be a crime to accept bitcoins in the first place?
Isn't this just plain and simple fraud?
Both parties agreed to swap goods/services for bitcoin, except you didn't send the goods and accepted the bitcoin.
Both parties agreed to swap goods/services for bitcoin, except you didn't send the goods and accepted the bitcoin.
If you did that with fiat money would it be illegal? If the answer is yes, then it is illegal. Simple as that.
you cant steal magic internet money. so its ok i guess.
If stealing in your country is illegal, then yes. Stealing is stealing no matter what you steal.
Since you've made this post there's not pre-meditation, sounds like you're planning to do this, which would also likely make it illegal and increase the penalty.
What country do you live and what are you trying to sell?
What country do you live and what are you trying to sell?
For example, if I mislead someone into sending me a large amount of bitcoins (in the United States) would that be illegal?
If I did not force them to do anything, but they sent them anticipating me to send a product in return, but I never send it.
Would this be considered illegal considering no one would know whether the bitcoin address that received the bitcoins was my address?
well it looks like a crime but it needs to be proven and stuck to the person, and it is hard since bitcoin address is hard to be related to the person If I did not force them to do anything, but they sent them anticipating me to send a product in return, but I never send it.
Would this be considered illegal considering no one would know whether the bitcoin address that received the bitcoins was my address?
Eat more paint chips and think harder to come up with something easier
illegal! and also harm other people! remember your sins!
Stealing anything at all, irrespective of value, is illegal.
its called fraud ie theft
Alright, since the general consensus is that stealing bitcoins is illegal.
If I discontinue the use of communication with said person (from a way that can be linked back to my IP address) and continue the conversation on an anonymized, encrypted email, with TOR, a VPN, and tails, and then execute said plan, law enforcement would have no way to prove that it was me who committed the crime and I would not be held accountable due to lack of evidence that it was me, correct?
If I discontinue the use of communication with said person (from a way that can be linked back to my IP address) and continue the conversation on an anonymized, encrypted email, with TOR, a VPN, and tails, and then execute said plan, law enforcement would have no way to prove that it was me who committed the crime and I would not be held accountable due to lack of evidence that it was me, correct?
I'm absolutely fascinated that people like you exist. Tell me about your parents. Were they cussing, drinking, smoking parents who were physically abusive to you? Do you think maybe you were born with some portions of your brain turned off (aka psycopath / no ability for empathy, etc) ?
What is it that results in a human being like you?
Are you aware that most of the world struggles with severe pain, both emotionally, physically, and otherwise because people like you exist? Wars, tortures, bloodshed, death, sadness, starvation, and misery originates with people who think ... like you. There are people around the world have to dedicate their entire lives to helping those that people like you hurt.
What is it that goes on inside the mind of someone like yourself, when you realize that you are the personification of everything most people are disgusted by, in human nature?
Just curious.
-B-
To answer IsaacDestruction's question, not necessarily. It is very well possible that your execution of this would somehow leak your identity. It would be possible that you somehow have some setting mid-configured and your IP address and identity would leak or your VPN is not as anon as they advertise themselves to be. If this were to happen then law enforcement would probably be additionally harsh in bringing charges against you as you had taken steps to hide your identity to avoid prosecution.
Jesus Christ and all Mother of The Holys is this REALLY a 6 page thread? Yes stealing bitcoins is illegal through fraud. Which is the "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain."
Seriously, do kids not have access to a dictionary or Google these days FFS?!?!
Seriously, do kids not have access to a dictionary or Google these days FFS?!?!
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