Topic: Is stealing bitcoins illegal? - page 8. (Read 9435 times)

wrong...thats WHY YOU DO NOT CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH COMPLETE STRANGERS!!! 

maybe it's not stealing but it would be some kind of fraud

The magic genie, and less incentive to protect oneself up front, then.

The government should bear these costs. It is generally considered that a crime is considered a crime against society as even though someone stole from one person they could easily steal from several others in the future if they are not punished

It does not matter how many times you tumble stolen bitcoin, each additional time you tumble them will give you a very small incremental level of anonymity.

Regardless, your victim tracing the path of the bitcoin is not the most likely way you will get caught. You will likely get caught by various methods that you had communicated with him prior to him sending the now stolen bitcoin

The question I like to turn to is: who should bear the costs of law enforcement and prosecution.

If I am victimized by a scammer, are my neighbors obligated to pay the costs of investigating the crime, locating and apprehending the culprit, prosecuting, and then incarcerating him?  If so, does this mean that I have less incentive to protect my Bitcoin and to investigate those I have financial dealings with?  What if all the costs involved add up to more than the value involved - who should decide whether we call it quits on the investigation or not?

Is socialism really a fair way to handle this?

Is there a magic lamp we can rub that will bring forth a genie that will right all wrongs and triumph over evil?

If your body is never found, you might not be considered dead. But you'll still be missing.

You engage with a written or verbal contract to exchange goods, either for money, or goods.

you break that contract, you are subject to being sued in court.

and you will lose.

illegal?  hmmm dont know, maybe criminal code would apply as stealing, but in the very least that's breach of contract under business law and you will get your ass handed to you.

It is illegal. If you don't get caught in this world, you will be in the next. Whether you believe in local authority or the supreme authority is irrelevant.

The question you should ask yourself is, should I enjoy my temporal and earthly life on this planet in exchange for eternal damnation in the fires of hell? If you don't believe in hell, then you probably won't go there, but is that a chance you are willing to take?

Many crime cases remain unsolved. That does not make them not illegal.

Do you have a conscience? Or are you a cold blooded stealer? Still illegal.

Maybe you want to get into semantics, then you should look at the definition of the word: Illegal, or unlawful, is used to describe something that is prohibited or not authorized by law.

There is at least one authority where stealing bitcoins is illegal. And that one has jurisdiction over everything everywhere. That you may be an atheist only says you don't believe in it, not that it doesn't really exist. Everyone else seems to subscribe to one religion or another.

But for you, maybe you like a life of always looking behind your shoulder, and hoping that the cops aren't there, or that guy you stole bitcoins from isn't about to slit your throat. (Murder is illegal too, but maybe he can get away with it, then tumble your corpse two or three times and completely anonymize what's left, so no one can identify you.)

The best way to do that is to strip the skin from your fingers so there are no prints, rip out the teeth so there are no dental records, and feed your chopped up body parts to other cold blooded reptiles.

ask Pirateat40

He knows all about what's illegal...

Lol i start to develop the same thinking as well. The more we brainstorm, the more ideas and methods are coming.

I dont know. Encrypted mail with [email protected] would certainly give some clues no matter how good your hid your IP. If you 3 days after the "incident" brag about it in school, there might be someone giving someone else a tipp. If you suddently have a lot more money and start buying fancy stuff, people might start asking questions. If you want to be a scammer, noone will teach you.


It does not matter if you get caught or not. You allready know its wrong, why do you think you called it "stealing" in the first place? Because you know it is.


Realistically OP would probably get away with it depending on the amount in question. The only important question is what kind of person OP wants to be.

LEOs already have their ways to check anonymized, encrypted email, with TOR, a VPN, etc. don't be so dumb to assume to be untraceable and smarter then LEOs. By the way you confirmed with your own's word you wanto to be a scammer & thief.

Starting a new business?

It's technically illegal and immoral to steal from people. If you're starting a new theft business this is a good place to get your feet wet and try out new concepts. I would suggest you become a VIP member first. That seems to be the best way to block your identity. You can even stay on this forum after the theft and mock the people you stole from. Another good way to do it is move to Japan and go bankrupt. That will allow you to rent a posh apartment with your stolen money. The most profitable method so far has been to create a website, have everyone send you all their Bitcoins, announce that your hotwallet is stored online with a password like "qwerty"' then retire on the funds. Whatever you do stay away from Texas and never fly into JFK airport. Law enforcement seems to hang out in those locations.

I think you're try to plan to steal BTC of something else with monetary value; so, I shall stop giving you legal help to avoid being held responsible of aiding someone to commit a crime.
Go earn legit BTC instead of trying to learn to be a scammer & thief.


+1. 

And that kids, is why we use ESCROW when dealing with complete strangers.

I'd so love to see that case in court "NPC Necromancer vs. PC 1337Haxx0R". PC found guilty of holdup murder

Ok OP, I've just completed transfer of your bitcoin from the copy of the wallet file I just found on your computer. Now you tell me if I stole it or not.

It's always a lot clearer for the victim.  

Good explanation and I 100% agree, the authority you answer to is irrelevant as that's not defined in "crime"

Taking anything of value from someone else without their explicit consent is considered a crime under most jurisdictions on this planet.
Again, the answer is yes.

Value does not even have to necessarily be monetary, eg. the ashes from your grandmother may not have monetary value, but taking them from you will usually be punishable by law.