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legendary
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August 10, 2018, 06:39:21 PM
Taxation is always theft but there aren't cheap private security agencies that be competitor to countries, to make my safe against other countries and bandits.

The other side of that is, most countries have enough troubles of their own that they wouldn't attack without having been attacked first.

The only reason why other nations might be prompted to fight the U.S. is, the U.S. has a military presence in over 100 foreign nations. Other countries are scared of the U.S.

The founding fathers of the USA wanted the U.S. to stay out of the affairs of other nations. We don't have to be there. We could live our lives apart from them, over here. And if our intelligence community reported their military build-up, advertising would get us to donate to our military defenses. We don't need taxation. Taxation is what makes our "leaders" think they have the right and ability to be world conquerors.

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legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 10, 2018, 05:57:26 PM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I agree. The video explains it all. I wish they could run it on the National TV at prime time. Just for a change Wink

Ron Paul was on National TV at prime time speaking truth to power and the spin was that "he's crazy, don't listen to him".

Do not underestimate the ability of the propaganda machine to cover the truth, even if it is broadcast briefly on their networks.

I believe that Ron Paul is quite sane. The thing he is doing is promoting civil law, because he realizes that common law and jury nullification is essentially out of reach. In other words, if 10% to 20% of the people understood how they can nullify any government law through jury nullification, Ron Paul might throw out his whole idea of civil law, and might go for common law.

As it is, probably less that 1% of people who are interested in correcting government, have any idea at all the they can do it through jury nullification. Besides, with how wildly "unsane" some people have gotten right now, would we even want them on a jury? They just might make things worse.

So, Ron Paul is doing the only thing that makes sense. He is promoting the old standards of civil law... civil law which still has some shreds of logic left within it.

I can't see how he couldn't know about jury nullification, and how it could turn the country around if used properly.

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legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
August 10, 2018, 02:53:58 PM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I agree. The video explains it all. I wish they could run it on the National TV at prime time. Just for a change Wink

Ron Paul was on National TV at prime time speaking truth to power and the spin was that "he's crazy, don't listen to him".

Do not underestimate the ability of the propaganda machine to cover the truth, even if it is broadcast briefly on their networks.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
August 10, 2018, 04:17:37 AM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I agree. The video explains it all. I wish they could run it on the National TV at prime time. Just for a change Wink
legendary
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Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
August 09, 2018, 11:16:20 PM
I don't think so. Governments need money to provide and maintain basic amenities such as roads, water, electricity but when the government takes tax and don't perform or underperform, then that's theft. I don't like the word corruption, I prefer theft.

What tyrannical shithole do you live in where you get your water and electricity through the government?

Let me guess, your taxes pay for garbage service too?

lol

Reminds me of someone who asked "without taxes, how would the government provide basic services like the dentist?"
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
August 09, 2018, 09:58:27 PM
I don't think so. Governments need money to provide and maintain basic amenities such as roads, water, electricity but when the government takes tax and don't perform or underperform, then that's theft. I don't like the word corruption, I prefer theft.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
August 09, 2018, 09:05:32 PM
No taxation is one of the reason why the economy of our country going up
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3158
August 09, 2018, 08:12:24 PM
Yeah, it's an organized mafia really.
Hopefully it'll come to an end and we'll be able to build whatever political system we want soon. Smiley
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
August 09, 2018, 06:33:06 PM
Governments don't need taxes to run. What they need is support, and some of it in the form of money. Where can they get money? Just like all the rest of us: Advertise a benefit; offer the benefit for sale; sell the benefit.

If government did it this way, we could vote for the government that we wanted, simply by how much of their products and services we purchased... and all of it with no taxes.

The "No State Project:"
http://marcstevens.net/
https://www.facebook.com/nostateproject/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCm_TxV6Zow


Cool

Good point.


Thank you.


TheTinyDot
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H6b70TUbdfs/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLBV0IekyrhKL9dZzb6dXe7IVouLrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs


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The Tiny Dot video is very persuasive. Thanks for sharing!
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
August 09, 2018, 04:56:06 PM
*beep* *oop* *burp*
*I am a robot*
*fear the IRS*
*end of transmission*
*derp* *fap* *boop*
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
August 09, 2018, 03:23:12 PM
Run George, run... You can run but you cant hide from IRS!  Grin

That's a good one  Grin Grin Grin
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 09, 2018, 08:47:38 AM
Governments don't need taxes to run. What they need is support, and some of it in the form of money. Where can they get money? Just like all the rest of us: Advertise a benefit; offer the benefit for sale; sell the benefit.

If government did it this way, we could vote for the government that we wanted, simply by how much of their products and services we purchased... and all of it with no taxes.

The "No State Project:"
http://marcstevens.net/
https://www.facebook.com/nostateproject/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCm_TxV6Zow


Cool

Good point.


Thank you.


TheTinyDot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs



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newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
August 09, 2018, 08:34:08 AM
Governments don't need taxes to run. What they need is support, and some of it in the form of money. Where can they get money? Just like all the rest of us: Advertise a benefit; offer the benefit for sale; sell the benefit.

If government did it this way, we could vote for the government that we wanted, simply by how much of their products and services we purchased... and all of it with no taxes.

The "No State Project:"
http://marcstevens.net/
https://www.facebook.com/nostateproject/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCm_TxV6Zow


Cool

Good point.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 09, 2018, 08:33:45 AM
Taxation isn't theft. It's just a percentage of our earnings to contribute to the society.

Pro is opposite of con, like progress is opposite of Congress. Notice con - tribute. No progress when you pay tribute to Congress.

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newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
August 09, 2018, 04:45:40 AM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I think taxation, as long as it's done right, should hopefully mean regulation in a way that supports investors, rather than penalising. Supportive regulation isn't necessarily a bad thing
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
August 09, 2018, 02:13:50 AM
*beep* *oop* *burp*
*I am a robot*
*taxation is not theft if the government spends the money right*
*end of transmission*
*derp* *fap* *boop*
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 08, 2018, 09:28:32 PM
Well I do not mind any thing about the texation if it is being used for the good purpose. Because it is the and the duty of the present governament to put the tex they collect from the public into good use But one thing I detest about it however is exhausting the more extravagant individuals more. As said previously, you can't make the poor more extravagant by making the rich poorer. Proceeding with the great uses, my township doesn't appear to make great utilization of the cash. They remove the easy route from things, yet dump more cash meanwhile. Something as straightforward as the movement lights are pulling a large number of dollars a year only for that.
What's more, they do it as wastefully as workable for all the cash they put in, and it demonstrates in light of the fact that the lights are completely horrendous.

If you like taxation, then it is a donation for you. So, of course, you WOULD like taxation, which it is for the people who don't want it. After all, then you get some of their money through the government programs you have signed up for.

If it isn't a donation, it is theft, robbery, fraud, and other similar things.

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newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
August 08, 2018, 09:01:35 PM
Well I do not mind any thing about the texation if it is being used for the good purpose. Because it is the and the duty of the present governament to put the tex they collect from the public into good use But one thing I detest about it however is exhausting the more extravagant individuals more. As said previously, you can't make the poor more extravagant by making the rich poorer. Proceeding with the great uses, my township doesn't appear to make great utilization of the cash. They remove the easy route from things, yet dump more cash meanwhile. Something as straightforward as the movement lights are pulling a large number of dollars a year only for that.
What's more, they do it as wastefully as workable for all the cash they put in, and it demonstrates in light of the fact that the lights are completely horrendous.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 08, 2018, 01:06:35 PM
Governments don't need taxes to run. What they need is support, and some of it in the form of money. Where can they get money? Just like all the rest of us: Advertise a benefit; offer the benefit for sale; sell the benefit.

If government did it this way, we could vote for the government that we wanted, simply by how much of their products and services we purchased... and all of it with no taxes.

The "No State Project:"
http://marcstevens.net/
https://www.facebook.com/nostateproject/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCm_TxV6Zow


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newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
August 08, 2018, 09:42:23 AM
Taxation is not a theft unless the government will steal taxes. Taxation is necessary in a nation-state. Tax is a lifeblood of country; because it is needed to make a progress.
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