Is this true or some superstitious believe about gambling? - page 17.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Lol, I laughed so loud while reading your post, like really I guess gambling has really done and taken so much from the man that's why he so much dislikes gambling. Though we know that most things onlines have external Bodies behind them but it's not logical to call them satanic. Gambling is a choice, no one forces anyone to gamble neither does the casino do. What ever loss one had with gambling, it was a risk he made his mind to enter. What has the devil gotten to do with gambling.?

Though so many religions preaches against them, as when one becomes addicted other forces applies to it which I might call demonic. But we should try to not over think these things as they have nothing to with superstitious believes.

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Quote from: retreat on May 13, 2024, 12:51:46 AM

It is normal for casinos to have a higher house edge compared to players, because they are running a business and it is normal for them to have a greater chance of winning compared to players. If he hopes that casinos do not have a house edge, then casinos are charitable institutions that give free money to people. Moreover, if it is football betting, interference from casinos is not significant, we could even say that it does not exist in the big leagues, so bettors should be able to bet more fairly.

The business they run requires very large capital, so developers have to create winning opportunities that may be very small to obtain. It is impossible for those who build casino businesses to aim to create an institution that distributes money for free as you imagine. Only a few large gambling places provide soccer betting, because in soccer betting the results will be transparent and the gambling place cannot manipulate wins or losses so that it will potentially be detrimental to the gambling place.

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People have many superstitions about many things but gambling and relating it to the devil is common in many religions. It is because of people who observe gamblers they concluded that gambling being a sinful act leads to bad outcomes.

Of course over here he was just trying to warn you from gambling. But it is ultimately your choice to gamble or not.

It is always true that long term casino is the winner. Hence decision making to gamble should be done with a clear head.

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Quote from: bitbollo on May 13, 2024, 03:17:32 AM

Demons?
ok good, I stopped reading everything else seriously...
we can say everything about gambling and platforms but comments based on magic are quite bizarre.
avoid talking to strangers but in general show what you are viewing.
imagine it's a criminal who notices you have a lot of funds in an online account, or you catch someone who is ready to "punish physically anyone who plays gambling..." Roll Eyes

Well, every individual have their opinions about certain things and if i were the OP I won't even give such person a chance to interact with me cause he's a stranger and maybe, just maybe I'm forced to convers with him, I'll only ask him one question which is, the prove he has to backup his claims and if i don't get a reasonable reply other than being too biblical then the best thing is to snub him and focus on what I was doing.

A lot of individuals have made mistakes and instead of them to accept their mistakes and move on they'll blame it on the devil, well good for him he was able to overcome his gambling addiction, but discouraging people and saying the house uses demons to manipulate individuals who gamble is the height of it all, maybe a lot of his religious brethren could believe such but I'll never give listening ears to such thrash.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

It is not demonic, but it looks like demonic to many people because they are not winning, if this same man starts winning he won't say that it is demonic, although it is true that the bible forbids gambling but it is not because of the demonic part, the bible advise against gambling because of the negative impact it has on humans, gambling can kill the spirit of will and hope left in human.

To me, gambling is simple math and psychology, a casino is betting on luck, 😃 it is something that doesn't happen every time, right? It is obvious that any casino will always have the upper hand, in a man's life he can get lucky only very few times in months or even in a year, and to many men, gambling is something you need to do every day.

You will surely lose more money and that is why casinos pocket gets fatter, it is common sense, this is one of the reasons why I don't gamble every day, I only gamble twice in a week and I use small amounts of money you can't control your luck, it comes when you won't be expecting it, spending less time with gambling is a good gambling strategy.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

That's their belief since what they think about gambling is a sin. So to avoid getting to much discussion and have heated argument with other people you better listen to them then stop doing that activity while they are around. For sure he continue to disturb you if that guy see that you continue despite of warnings he discussed. That's why I hate to gamble on public places since we can't avoid to experience this scenario since there are some people doesn't respect our decisions in life. If I encounter this situation I will simply tap the guy and say thank you with the warnings or opinion said so that he will be happy that I acknowledge his message so there will be no problem will occur.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Demons?
ok good, I stopped reading everything else seriously...
we can say everything about gambling and platforms but comments based on magic are quite bizarre.
avoid talking to strangers but in general show what you are viewing.
imagine it's a criminal who notices you have a lot of funds in an online account, or you catch someone who is ready to "punish physically anyone who plays gambling..." Roll Eyes

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Likely that he lost that much and became addicted to gambling but I'm happy to see him discourage other people in becoming addicted if that's what he's trying to advocate. But as we all know, we're all the captain of our boats and we can do whatever we can. If that's the belief that he's got, a religious or superstitious belief, I'll let it be on him. I wouldn't try to laugh or make fun of that person but will politely say if that's what he's believing on, I respect.
It's simple as that but we cannot please everyone as how he's pleasing himself through advocating and discouraging others to stop gambling. There's probably a bigger reason for that and that's why there's always the other side of the story. You can believe what you want to believe and so as the others. But respecting personal space and boundaries on a public area like in a bus, I'd do that.
And if someone keeps on doing so, I'll just give that space of mine to him and will look elsewhere where it's completely free and no one is going to bother me when I am commuting to here and there. Sometimes, there are people that don't respect personal space.

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When I read the title, I thought you will say superstitions makes you able to win more, but I'm wrong.

The guy who said demons make you lose and become an addict is really misleading, it's not caused by demons, but he didn't understand with house edge and manipulated match. If someone didn't gamble too much and not looking for money, they won't become gambling addicts, but they only lose their money due to house edge.

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Gambling is an activity that is not good for those who play excessively and without control which can harm themselves, and if it involves the devil, I think it makes sense. However, this does not mean that casinos use demons to ensnare many people in gambling. Satan is a creature created by God to tempt humans away from the guidance of truth and also to harm themselves.
Gambling can cause addiction because gambling is excessive and after being involved in human emotions, and when emotions come then Satan will tempt him which makes the gambler uncontrolled which makes his life ruined. And besides that, Satan can also keep gamblers away from doing good and also make us far from God, and I think many gamblers are like this. However, this does not mean that casinos use demons, but rather that demons can easily tempt gamblers into ruin or addiction.

sorry if I'm wrong, but logically it makes sense.

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Once you lose, or it never reaches your expectations, you will always say bad things about the business, especially in gambling.
I think he only had a bad experience in gambling which is why he is making some assumptions about gambling sites being controlled or manipulated by the devil. He became religious, that's cool. But, I don't think he should be using that kind of reasoning just because he lost tons of money with it. (assuming)
First of all, it was his decision to gamble which means he is expecting to get some good money out of a faster way like gambling. It didn't work out for him so he quit and hated the service.
But what if he won? Will he still say those things? Or the perspective will change saying there are angels in gambling platforms because they gave him good money? Cheesy

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

This man is acting or saying things base on his religious believe. We all know how the two popular religions frowns on the idea of gambling and most religious leaders preach it as a devils work. I don’t see any difference from what that man was doing. He outrightly wanted to find a way to discourage you from it. Also there is this thing I notice once something isn’t religiously allowed then it get assigned to the devil using the victim. Example is the drinking of alcohol.

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It was just about the advice of parents who had already become addicts and lost all their money in gambling.
The demon in question doesn't even really show up and manipulate anything, it's just the demon that appears in him when he's too addicted and thinks of nothing but gambling to hit the jackpot.

Whatever he considers demonic in the person's story is scientifically just an impulse in him to continue playing without pause,
without management and without thinking about anything.

In modern times like now, it is not the devil who manipulates, but the system or there is a great programmer behind the system that is built.
People who believe too much in mystical stories or things beyond reason consider demons to be the cause, when only their subconscious mind does all of them.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Even if that reason is true, will it make you stop gambling?
What makes gamblers addicted and gamble excessively is the gambler's own behavior.
not all gamblers are addicts. This means that someone has succeeded in exercising control over their gambling activities.
What determines our steps is ourselves. If you want to gamble, then do it within your own abilities. If you want to stop then do it on your own.

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It is normal for casinos to have a higher house edge compared to players, because they are running a business and it is normal for them to have a greater chance of winning compared to players. If he hopes that casinos do not have a house edge, then casinos are charitable institutions that give free money to people. Moreover, if it is football betting, interference from casinos is not significant, we could even say that it does not exist in the big leagues, so bettors should be able to bet more fairly.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Well, I know we know where those that person going or what he is up to, as the OP said the man said that he used to be an gambling addict, yes its a good thing that he stopped and consider gambling as satanic, so we can be sure that he is already stopped playing gambling, but to that point that he will believe that gambling is operated by demons and such I think the experience or what he had gone through must be rough and to the point that he will believe in something like that, well in my opinion we all have different stance or opinion to everything and if that person treat gambling as demonic then so be it, but I don't think it is right to approach someone that is stranger and said that, anyway, its up to the gambler on how will he view gambling is or casino is as long as you know yourself that you are not doing anything wrong.

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Some people believe that gambling related to superstitious and manipulated by Satanic but if we don't believe, we can accept it like that rather than debated to that person which is useless. Maybe he lose much of his money in gambling so he said many things about gambling but people who can control themselves in gambling and not lose much money will say that gambling is just a fun activity.
We knows that casino can takes the biggest amount of the money from the lose gamblers so that makes sense that we must limits our money to avoids the lose. We don't wants to lose much money so we don't have to playing gambling with too much money.
If you don't wants to hear about Satanic and not believe with that, you don't have to listen to him and lets he says many things about his experience. You just needs to stick with your rules and limits yourself when playing gambling so there's nothing to worry in gambling.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

now that it is, how many devils does a casino employ to make a gambler addicted? and how much does it pay? Shocked

I think the devil meant by this person is our own emotions which are unable to control ourselves when gambling. So in a sense it's not a real devil, it's just a figure of speech that depicts you not being able to control the game, so it's only played by emotions and greed which results in more losses from gambling. As long as you can play wisely, and not be greedy, I think you will have fun with gambling, even if you lose, you will feel satisfied with it.

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It would help if we knew the country where it happened and the main religion there. It doesn't sound like you are a muslim, where an opinion like that would be more common. On the other hand, I still have the doubt whether he was talking figuratively or he really believed in actual demons manipulating the casinos.

Be that as it may, he may be right to some extent, in a metaphorical sense of course. Like in many other business where big money is involved (insurance, banks,...) the managers of some casinos may be evil, and willing to carry put dubious practices in order to manipulate users for the sake of profit.

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My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.

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