Topic: Is this true or some superstitious believe about gambling? - page 16. (Read 2397 times)

Maybe you misunderstood my post. Well, if you observe properly you'll see where i stated that ( the man made it sound real but I don't believe that) and then i further gave reasons i felt made him make such statements. Well it doesn't matter their reply cause in threads like this people would either be for you or against you and moreover this is a discussion thread a debate is not prohibited and its not bad to know people's opinions, people's Idea an thoughts about such statement atleast some people would give pure facts to convince others and many people who think otherwise like that man, people who are against gambling but post on gambling threads maybe to meet up with campaign targets would learn and understand that gambling is not a bad idea and why people fail in it is because they fail to gamble responsibly. Yes it doesn't guarantee one to be very successful but there are responsible gamblers who are able to minimise their losing streaks it's only an unsuccessful gambler that would come up with such belief.

Is it true that he believed in that? Possibly yes. But you are asking in the title if that's that happened to him is objectively true? I am interested on what you are basing your concept of truth in life, if you need an opinion based answer to that?

Psychologically it's easy to understand why that man told that story. It's really hard to confront ourselves as people who are weak to temptations and possibly addicts. Especially for people who think that we are perfectly capable to make smart decisions all the time and it's all about if we choose that. When these people come across being mentally addicted to anything, gambling or things they want to avoid. They don't accept that they need a little help, as they know what's a smart thing, but incapable of choosing it.

So when they believe it's all up to them, and that they can be above their brain chemistry, but somehow fail to make the right choice, they need someone to blame. And it can be rigged games, or demons, or even something crazier, just so that they can keep their faith of being in control of their choices. It's also pumping their self-respect to believe that they really didn't make mistakes, demons or something else were to blame. Brain can do pretty strange tricks when it tries to make sense of reality and when we want to justify our actions.

The belief of devils controlling gambling is old. This person may have lost money or be protecting you. But its math. Casinos and sportsbooks are businesses. No mystery, the chances are in their favor, not manipulated. Your gambling. Gamble for fun, right? It should be fun. Be clever about it. Avoid overdoing it. Thats the difference between enjoyment and trouble.

Want to get on football? Thats fine if done appropriately. Remember, the house always has a slight edge. But ultimately, you decide. You pick how much to spend and when to leave. People, thats the secret to winning. Smart choices, not demons or chance.

There is no way to denying his words. But his words will be true those who use gambling for earning money and become addicted will definitely be affected by the negative effects of gambling. Many people who gamble can control themselves for a short period of time, but after a long time they lose their control again. But not everything he says is true. Because of gambling there are many lucky people who have changed their lives and there are some people who are earning their livelihood through gambling. Not everyone will be unlucky and not everyone will be lucky. A gambler's success in gambling depends on luck, skill and strategy etc. However, if a gambler does not expect to win much from gambling then gambling will be enjoyable.

I am completely convinced that avid gamblers are always superstitious. They believe in various amulets, rituals and omens, hoping for good luck.

However, I personally do not attach importance to superstitions. In my mind, gambling is pure mathematics. Believing in luck and beliefs can be fun, but the main factor of success in gambling is calculations, strategy and the ability to make decisions based on probabilities.

Therefore, I tend to trust ONLY logic and analysis, not chance and superstition.

It’s the math that helps the casino win so if the math is considered as Satanic then he is right.

This kind of opinion is from those people that use religion as safe haven to stop their gambling addiction since church doctrine is always involved demons and satan to everything that is against their teachings even though there’s scientific evidence on how to explain this.

House always win because all the games is designed mathematically in favor for the house.

sometimes religious believes vets to influence people so much that they just associate everything in a way with some kind of spiritual things a d keep some possible logical approach asides which has even done them more harm than good, I'm not disputing the fact that there are some spiritual implications to some of these things or that spiritual forces don't work but then somethings are just clear that logical approach has kept or in different dimensions about a particular thing , there are some persons who careful gets to control their selves well enough when it has to do with gambling and are very particular about how week they get to profit from gambling and it's clear there's no manipulation except for those who geta to allow their selves to be addicted of which they can actually get to prevent.

Everyone has got their personal experience with the casinos and I don't think it's very okay to try to convincing others into your believe about something as both of you may not be Sharing the same fate with such thing so it's best you both just have to react based on u're personal experience a s not convincing people in to other believes as I personally don't buy into that.

Well, the whole story behind is just some people refuse to take responsibility for their actions and instead they claim and give responsibility of their behavior to external forces, like demons or other supernatural influences. Just like with people who abuse substance or alcohol where they claim being hunted and pushed by demons to stay in that situation, gambling addiction itself stems from personal choices and lack of self control because it has something euphoric to certain people while playing.
Casinos themselves often promote responsible gambling with warning signs. The man on the bus likely had a bad or harsh experience in this field and is looking for excuses to avoid blaming himself instead. We all face setbacks in gambling, but it's about learning from them and improving. Blaming demons for losses is just a humorous way to shift responsibility.

Judging by his nonsense, he exchanged one addiction (gambling) for another (religion). This is a fairly common case, in the sense that if a person does not have rational thinking, then he finds the appropriate filling for his head.
Maybe there is nothing wrong with that, as long as one day he doesn’t try to exorcise a demon from someone or go burn down a casino as a refuge for the devil (because that’s what the voices in his head whispered)  

I think the reason for having such thought is the uncontrollable pulse that some gamblers have to chase their loses, making them to keep betting even when they are losing. This looks like one is manipulated if you know you are losing money yet you don't want to give up. This is the way it sounds that you begin to see some people thinking it is the devil while such person was suppose to stop but couldn't control himself. That aspect of not stopping is what makes some people think it is the devil whereas they are the ones who have allowed themselves to be used by their emotions. So that man is not the only one in that way of thinking.


Most likely he is the type that gambling left bad taste in their mouth because he didn't gamble responsibly.

Nice one.So the programmers and slot providers who make sure that the house is always in profit are the demons that influence the outcome of a slot machine.The reason why I also think it is extremely funny is that this man attributes the fact that he lost a lot which is completely normal for gamblers to such imaginary forces,human nature is really difficult to understand,they blame always others including imaginary things and never blame themselves for their mistakes.

People who are purists and very religious will tell you that, but they are wrong in saying that demons are the ones manipulating the results, the results are based on its system, and it's a business model meant for people to enjoy the platform not to make money and we all know that it has nothing to do with demon controlling the system, it's the individual character that will make him addicted, they become are addicted to gamble because of their weak control and character, and there are many responsible gamblers.

I think he loses a lot of money which is why he hates gambling and doesn't want people to experience what he experienced but he has a wrong belief that the reasons people are losing is because of demons, gambling is a game of luck, you could win, you could lose you just need to enjoy the game and don't become a hater every time you lose.

There are no such thing as demonic in gambling. Most people only rely on what they consume to their brain and act by it. All he said regarding gambling is familiar except for the demonic aspect of it. The house edge is managed by the casino, not some demons as he may have said. I'm not comfortable with the fact you didn't engage in a long term conversation with him to change his vague perspectives of gambling. The whole thing he said may be fueled by his gambling losses.

Due to this he's actually bittered whenever in touch with a gambler. I think this unfolds another reason why people should not gamble in the midst of people or maybe get a dark screen guard that'll privatize your screen from the eyes of spies peeping through your phone. Because those things he said is getting to you and thinking about that is not fine in anyway. The best idea would be removing those thoughts and fling them away from your memory. Focus and enjoy your game. Stay responsible mate.

You are asking something which cannot be easily replied without having in mind the religious standing of the person answering your question, though. You are literally asking whether demons exist or not. So I am not sure what kind of answering you are expecting beyond people saying this is non-sense and others claiming demons exist.
But keeping that to one side... I believe people who manage casinos and betting services do not need further help from unknown forces, because they already have mathematics in their side, though, and mathematics are in control over both believers and non-believers.

I share your theory on the past of that man, he probably had such nefarious experience with gambling that he started to go church and there he learnt on demons and the unholiness on betting, etc. He found comfort on that and now he has given up on betting and gambling completely. There is nothing wrong with that, since it is a personal choice. Just do which is more appropriate in your eyes, always keeping responsibility as your priority.

I suspect your doubts on demons and angels getting involved in gambling won't get solved in this thread, though, be warned.

That's correct,  human has  a way if rationing blame on what that doesn't favour them, it's not new apart from casino game other things also have such superstition suspect by different individual in as much it doesn't work in there favour. The truth is that what you don't know always appears big or even have superstitious character this is as a result of ignorance in human.

In our society today many  poor person who could not Cross the red line of poverty see some wealthy men as ritualist or as ill wealth because they are ignorant of how to make such money or wealth to cut this analysis short I think he speaks on ignorance needs improve in the knowledge behind gambling.

we are not sure if what he is saying is true but we have our own beliefs and views when it comes to things, maybe he just wants to give a warning to those he sees gambling because he experienced negative gambling outcomes but it is up to you if you believe what he says, there are many other sayings when it comes to gambling but for me, we are the ones who owns our destiny, we are the ones who manage our actions and if we don't want to be like others who are addicted and sunk into problems because of gambling , we should also know what are the right things to do so as not to lead to such an event.
I've heard a lot like that not only when it comes to gambling, even with rising personalities, they always connect that their souls are pledged to the devils in exchange for popularity, maybe for old people like us it's hard to believe but what if the children can hear? maybe that's what sticks in their minds until they grow up.

Hahhahaa....very funny words said by the old man. I believe that was what he believes which was able to help him out of his addiction, because assuming he does not believe in what he is saying, he might not be able to stop gambling. So with him believing on a gamble demon helping the casinos to win will scare him away from gambling.

He said the fact about the house hedge always win and that is because of the software algorithm which the casino is using. However, it is good that gamblers understand that no matter how hard they try to win, it is impossible because the house edge will always win, and with this understanding it can make gamblers gamble responsible. I have what I do always say to myself whenever I want to gamble to enable me gamble responsible, amd those words are always in my mind.

Demons in casino? should we need to discuss gambling is haram or a sin in the first place? I didn't understand why people can believe in this stupid thing, with the advance of technology that we seen today, I'm surprised people still have old school thinking.

There's still manipulation in sports, it's called fixed match. But in international match or prestigious titles, it's high unlikely we would see fixed match because the title is more important than just the money.

        -   I don't seem to have seen anything in the Bible that says it is bad to gamble, but there is another term in the Bible that seems to refer to gambling.
I just don't know what verse that is in the scripture. Gambling doesn't just become good because most gamblers who become addicted to gambling have affected their character.

And what's more, gambling is destructive because of the negligence of the gambler to become an addict, which is why the effect is the destruction of their family and relationships, and sometimes even leads to bad results such as crime scene events.

In essence, everyone has their own journey, experiences and what they believe. in this discussion, we are talking gambling and superstitious beliefs. for us, especially Southeast Asians. Things that are occult, superstitious, and the like, are not taboo in social life. although gradually, something inherited from our ancestors is gradually being eroded by the development of sophisticated technology.
So, what does this have to do with this post? yeah, we are discussing superstitions in gambling. I have personal experience, but I won't explain it clearly. In the past, before the internet was as sophisticated as it is today, people flocked to land-based casinos to gamble. I used to be part of a casino, and we had a special room for anything superstitious. believe it or not, I have experience with what we are discussing. I'm not talking about what it's for, and what the goal is, what's certain is that we involve something that smells like superstition.

Well, actually you and I can see it from various points of view. If you don't believe in anything superstitious, just ignore it. However, we also cannot close our eyes to the fact that there are still many people who believe in it. For me personally, there's no need to debate. Especially in this era of sophisticated technology, we don't need to visit a place called a casino to gamble. yeah, just take out your cellphone, you can still bet even on a bus, how sophisticated is this era? If we talk from the perspective of gambling psychology, everything can be explained with science and knowledge. but if we talk from another point of view, basically our ancestors as predecessors always involved superstition even in the world of gambling. So whoever doesn't believe it, don't bother arguing about it and just ignore it. for those who still involve believing in superstition, let them be with what they believe. After all, we all have different rights, beliefs and different points of view.