Is your win a function of luck or how much you know a sports? - page 4.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

Of course, everyone will have experiences like this in any case, including gamblers in gambling, I myself when I did not know more about soccer then wanted to try it, it relied on guessing because I only knew the name of the team and did not know how the history, statistics and even players.

For example, I only knew Ronaldo at that time and then I chose to bet on Real Madrid, without knowing the structure of the players and the course of the Real Madrid match with the team he was playing against, so I thought it was just a guess.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

Nope, I won't do it either. You may ask why you trust your luck on casino games but not on sports cause it's different and if the results doesn't ended up in our favour it gives us some kind of guilt like why would I did that? Which I don't want.

But I tried predicting who could be the winner on random game with random athletes I have no Idea whatsoever just purely for fun or did as friendly contest with someone nearby.

Most time we feel guilty when we rush and predicted a game and loss bet when we would have taking our time to peruse well before betting. Many of us have made mistakes in gambling that would have made us make huge amounts of money because of the ignorance of believing in past events or records in football matches. Sometime we tend to lose more when we keep betting on our knowledge about a particular team in sport bets without giving luck a chance. One can be lucky to bet on different matches and win consecutively so we don't always have to depend on our knowledge or past history as a gambler for us to make more money.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

Nope, I won't do it either. You may ask why you trust your luck on casino games but not on sports cause it's different and if the results doesn't ended up in our favour it gives us some kind of guilt like why would I did that? Which I don't want.

But I tried predicting who could be the winner on random game with random athletes I have no Idea whatsoever just purely for fun or did as friendly contest with someone nearby.

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always any win is linked on how much I know the sports. just because its useless play a sport that I have no idea how it works or I don't know their player.
It's like playing blinded just looking the odds. Yes of course there is luck on gambling, but it's not just "toss a coin" is definitely something more.
sometimes I play also event "casually" (likewise funny esport). But it's just for pure pleasure, have a look on the match and so on.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on August 01, 2024, 03:13:14 AM

People who watch a lot of football will prolly pick the right winners, but long term, he/she will still lose if he/she doesn't get the right odds for his/her bet. The person may know who the winner is six or seven times out of ten, BUT the sports betting service still holds the edge because they control the odds. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah the commission/house edge matter.

People didn't realize if we're risking 100% to win 100% - commission/house edge, so in the end we're in loss due to losing more than winning.

It's why, if someone can find a bookmarker that give EV+, they should take advantage from it.

There are so many thing we need to know if we want to make money from gambling, not only good in analysis.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

You are making the gambling game more risky while there’s already a lot of resources available to do analysis on your bet that will improve your winning percentage. I believe there’s some user that doing this in reality but I bet they are not successful in long term assuming they manage to get a success on early run.

It’s very hard to win in gambling most importantly on pure luck games. We are talking about sport betting that converted to luck based game since you are suggesting to randomize bets to unknown athletes which you are not familiar.

Worst idea for me since there’s a way to improve your winning percentage in contrary to casino games that is just pure random.

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Yes, I did and I believe many sports gamblers did the same too. It mostly happens when you are bored. Why? Either the sports you mostly bet on are on hiatus or you cannot wait for the next game to happen (let's say it's every week only) and you have the money to gamble. That's when you will try some crazy predictions, put it in a parlay, a bit of money on the line, and wait for the result to come in.
I made that stupid mistake long ago because I thought I could somehow be lucky and predict the games right. I realized in the end I wasted so much money when all of them were added. So, it's not a wise thing to do but it could also be fun especially if you have time to monitor the games and have a chance to cash out the mid part of your parlay. But I tell you, it's exhausting.

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I see sports betting as the easiest form of gambling in which the gambler can have a good chance of winning if they have knowledge of sports activities, but that doesn't mean that the person can win every one of their predictions. Like you said, you came up with seven predictions, and six were successful, which is actually a good prediction despite the fact the fact that you didn't win all the games. Someone who is not experienced in sports activities may end up being a foolhardy gambler with a very poor chance of winning in gambling. So, I believe that winning from sports betting is as a result of luck and experience of the gambler.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before..

When money is not involved in the prediction it's very easy to pick games at random not taking any form of risk into consideration but with involvement of money the gambler starts confining each selected market to analysis and before you know it some analytical bias will set in. A perfect example on this is demo trading and real trading. The trader has a different mentality in the two, same applies with gambling when money is or not involved.

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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

I have done that countless times and it's been a smooth ride with the outcome many times than when money is involved. And it's a common sense thing to understand why it's usually so with the outcomes.

Following the topic of your op, in sports bets your knowledge does plays a critical role in enhancing your chances of getting a win with your bets, but ultimately but far reaching is knowledge and luck altogether.

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I believe more that people's knowledge of the sport they are betting on has a big influence on winning their bets. Although someone can win a bet by relying on their luck, you can't rely on luck every time you want to bet on a match. And because you can't rely on your luck all the time, you have to be able to increase your knowledge of the sport and then with that knowledge you can increase your chances of winning the bet, and that's a more rational way to win your bet.

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Quote from: Coyster on July 31, 2024, 12:36:56 PM

Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

If knowing the sports was a criteria to win games, people who watch a lot of football should be winning bets in every football match they gamble on. I have accepted this fact a very long time ago, and it is that winning in gambling has a lot to do with luck, the bookmakers are still in business because one can only get lucky seldomly, so people lose more than they win.

People who watch a lot of football will prolly pick the right winners, but long term, he/she will still lose if he/she doesn't get the right odds for his/her bet. The person may know who the winner is six or seven times out of ten, BUT the sports betting service still holds the edge because they control the odds. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For those times that will be high-confidence winners, the sports betting service will merely give you $0.05 cents or $0.10 cents for your $1.00 Dollar. What would happen to you during those times when the underdog wins?

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Quote from: Moreno233 on July 31, 2024, 03:45:46 PM

To make headways in gambling as it has to do with sports, you need both luck and sound knowledge of sports. If you open any even in sports bet, you will realize there are many options you can bet on, the reason for this is to give the gamblers many options that will help them win. If you are very knowledgeable about sports, you can easily know some of those options that will happen like number corners, teams to score at least one goal and other twists that exist. Indeed knowledge is important in sports betting and so does luck. There was a time Messi was scoring in almost all the matches, at that point, placing a bet on Messi to score is high probability bet and a product of knowledge.

Yeah both luck and skills to analyse the games plays vital role in winning sport bets, but at some level with the pattern of bet that the ops mentioned, it means at some point there is no need for analysis in selecting the games and one have to rely wholly on luck to win in such situations, since the games are selected based on live events, between for long term experience sport bettors they already know the importance of carrying out analysis before staking a bet for whatever reasons, so they don't just jump on games just because they want to bet and risk all on luck.

Lastly in such betting partten the losing chance and rate are always higher than the winning, let say you can only record just like 2 winning out of every 10 bets you make using that luck based selection formula, so the ops was just lucky to have won the bet this time, but the chancea of winning his next bet using same formula is low.

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Quote from: Odohu on July 31, 2024, 05:33:07 PM

Winning casino is mostly through luck only some few games that require skills but sports betting is majorly through skill which knowledge is part of. If you draw opinion poll here, you will see that not many people know all the rules and style of play in soccer, tennis, hockey, basketball and other sports. You will notice that if you have so much knowledge about the sport, it is then possible to win them because you know your way around it. I was in a discussion with a friend who bet only NBA because he has so much knowledge of it whereas I bey mostly on soccer because I have good knowledge of it. Knowledge is a major decision making index in sports betting.

Sportsbetting and poker are just few gambling activities that require mostly of skills and knowledge. If you are a sports enthusiast and you feel, you live and breathe a particular sports, you can try your hands in sportsbetting and see where you are at best and where you can earn good profits.

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It reminds me of writing an objective examination in high school and when you're done with the questions you're certain of, and you just do some random selections and luck could shine on you and you get up to 70% from your rough prediction.

In a prediction it is wither correct or wrong so it is more likely 50-50 but just like how one toss a coins, in this case it is more likely to be a tail meaning you'll lose.

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I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

When I was fascinated by sports betting and don't have any prior knowledge about the strength of the team, I just bet randomly since I was curious on how wagering in sports betting works. But later when I had grasped the basic, I often studied the team and its current situation before I put money on betting. Picking a team randomly will often lead to losses. Although luck is always a part of gambling activity, knowledge of teams and their current status greatly help to increase the chances of winning when we do sports betting.

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Winning casino is mostly through luck only some few games that require skills but sports betting is majorly through skill which knowledge is part of. If you draw opinion poll here, you will see that not many people know all the rules and style of play in soccer, tennis, hockey, basketball and other sports. You will notice that if you have so much knowledge about the sport, it is then possible to win them because you know your way around it. I was in a discussion with a friend who bet only NBA because he has so much knowledge of it whereas I bey mostly on soccer because I have good knowledge of it. Knowledge is a major decision making index in sports betting.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

Sometimes people gamble by just guessing and it may end up becoming a win or lose because gambling is unpredictable. In some games gamblers may depend on just a guess work to gamble, if luck is on their side they may end up winning. While in some games having knowledge of the game plays an important role for win yo occur but it is not always a guarantee that having knowledge about a particular game will always lead to win. In gamble luck can't be taking away out of the box and sometimes knowledge is also required for someone to stand the chance of winning. Gambling is a game of luck that is why it is important to only play with the amount you can afford to lose because you can't predict the outcome.

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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

I don't remember that if I ever do that by guessing. I actually don't remember if I took any such bet. However, even though I held the bet in the case of Football club league, I won because of good luck in that journey.

But I think it is better not to take this kind of bet in the case of sports. Because in the case of sports betting, winning depends a lot on your knowledge, how you know that sport and the teams you are going to bet on, you should bet only after getting a good idea about the current form of the teams and the team squad. That's what I do now. And in this aspect most of the time I win although the ultimate result depends on luck.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on July 30, 2024, 11:21:43 AM

Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

I have done it and I was unlucky with my guess and I will never do it again.
now I will only bet on matches that I know and understand. although my analysis is still not accurate, but at least I don't really try my luck by betting randomly.

you are lucky with your guess, maybe you do have great luck. if you have tried it to bet, maybe you can share the results. may luck always be with you. because not all gamblers can get luck like you in random betting.

Like last week in the champions league qualifying match by trying to bet random matches the results were not good from doing multibet bets 3 matches 1 win 2 losses in 1X2 bets.

So it's better to bet on matches that you understand that will be less profitable because you know the aspects of the game than random matches.
At least we know, which is the favorite team and what odds the bookies offer then we can conclude for ourselves.
Luck will not come several times, maybe the guess is right this time when he tries the second time it is not certain that the random choice will win the bet.

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To make headways in gambling as it has to do with sports, you need both luck and sound knowledge of sports. If you open any even in sports bet, you will realize there are many options you can bet on, the reason for this is to give the gamblers many options that will help them win. If you are very knowledgeable about sports, you can easily know some of those options that will happen like number corners, teams to score at least one goal and other twists that exist. Indeed knowledge is important in sports betting and so does luck. There was a time Messi was scoring in almost all the matches, at that point, placing a bet on Messi to score is high probability bet and a product of knowledge.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 30, 2024, 04:59:07 AM

I tried out something while I was watching some games in the ongoing Olympics and this is what I did;

I looked out for sports I wasn't conversant with the athletes and didn't know who was better at the sports and did a random prediction on the outcome of the game. I did it for swimming competition and some random boxing yesterday and out of up to 7 predictions I made, almost 6 went the way I predicted it.

It reminds me of writing an objective examination in high school and when you're done with the questions you're certain of, and you just do some random selections and luck could shine on you and you get up to 70% from your rough prediction.

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

I do not rule out that this has happened to many gambling enthusiasts, especially if he has a small amount left or in many cases he has won a bonus balance on platforms that he is not used to using without all the options available. In other cases, gamblers choose bets based on pure luck following the habit that beginners always have good luck. What happened to you can only be explained as pure luck if you have no knowledge of the type of sport you chose to bet on. At the same time, I do not imagine that you are not familiar with at least the rules of the game itself. For example, I do not know the rules of cricket or ice hockey, so it is unlikely that I would bet on any of them.
I support these options on the basis of the rule of diversification in bets, meaning that the player does not bet on one game or one sport. This gives him more opportunities to make profits.

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