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legendary
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April 19, 2015, 05:55:48 PM
This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.



Really, stoning and burning to death is barbaric in the eyes of the audience.  These are intended to make the audience fear.

That's true, but there are some things we generally accept as universal. Even though we have the death penalty, the penalty is agreed to be death, not intentional agony. That's why death penalties that inflict pain aren't tolerated.

Also, every major religion uses the threat of eternal punishment in hell to scare people into behaving. Fear has never worked, whether it was temporary pain or when it was accepted to be eternal torment.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 05:06:05 PM
This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.


However, it just so happens that pedophiles (the ones that raped the girl in this case) would get their barbaric punishment while locked up in jail.  From the other inmates.

What could be better?

Really, stoning and burning to death is barbaric in the eyes of the audience.  These are intended to make the audience fear.
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April 19, 2015, 02:53:54 PM
If this can be reported why can't it be stopped?
Stupid idiots have nothing better to do then torcher children.
That poor baby.

Very good questions.
It seems that our politicians know just how to talk a lot, without taking any real actions to stop this tragedy and save this people, women and children.
ISIS is pure evil and I really hope that soon or later someone will stop them.

If I can say my personal opinion, regarding this fact:
If any government really want to stop their action or better all the isis members they can do it. The real reason is they do not want to stop ISIS.

Powers like USA, Russia or China can do this at any moment but it seems there is no real political will to do anything.
Shame on them.

Have you seen what is happening in Yemen, why saudi arabian government didn't take real action to stop the ISIS? Probably because it doesn't want. Why USA don't send military/soldiers to fight against ISIS?

This is overly simplistic. It's not a case of want, it's a case of practicality and public tolerance. Nobody wants ISIS to kill people, but we're already bombing them and the public simply will not tolerate another troop deployment to fight an ineffective guerrilla war. Every US soldier has a family, and that family and the US public in general does not want their people dropped into a desert to fight a group that has very little to do with us. It's the same for Russia and China as well, whom ISIS cannot threaten. It's different for Middle Eastern countries, where ISIS gains pose direct problems to local governments.
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April 19, 2015, 02:40:49 PM
This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.

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April 19, 2015, 12:40:49 PM
just as a quicky the people not finishing this monster inside the stomach of this kid are terrorist. purge and move on, no more damages.

when it comes to nuke the world they all are parading their knowledge,

when it comes to helping a child, they start to parade their morality and ethics...

logged.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 12:14:57 PM
Hillary has been designed lawyer of ISIS. values are converging...
You sure about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSKeXpYtLiQ

Also, note that ISIS is not atrocity central but a JOKE for many in the Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx0Gu0PlNjI
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April 19, 2015, 09:49:44 AM
Hillary has been designed lawyer of ISIS. values are converging...
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 09:43:26 AM
We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect

Which planet are you from? Why do you think ISIS leaders will be bothered?
ISIS in its current form should vanish before atrocities like this end.

It is true that in many cases, when the primary leader of a high structured, rigid nation is executed, the entire structure falls apart.  Where that is true of ISIS I don't know.

One would think that many men joined ISIS thinking it was another Al Queda/radical Islam-for-the-greater-good sect, and are now appalled at the atrocities they are ordered to do and support.  Internal dissent/lack of morale would make their forces far less capable on the battlefields, but there still must be an opposing force to take advantage of those weaknesses.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 07:40:44 AM
We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect

Which planet are you from? Why do you think ISIS leaders will be bothered?
ISIS in its current form should vanish before atrocities like this end.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 01:53:53 AM
god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

There are many risks when using chemicals..

Yes. For example, the United States used chemical weapons against the Viet Cong 4 decades ago, and the people there are still suffering from its consequences. In addition to the countless deaths and defects among the human population, the wild life and natural vegetation was also devastated in areas where the chemicals were used.

It will also unite people behind the ISIS.
The people who use chemical weapons will be seen (and rightfully so) as the real enemy.

We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect

You are correct.  Killing Bagdhadi (Calif for the current Caliphate) would end this.  The Calif is responsible for carrying out the current Caliphate and it is his responsibility to wage war in order to meet the prophetic expectations.  But once ISIS is extinguished, there is still many other evil sects do deal with: Boka Horam and Al-Shabbab for example.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 01:49:54 AM
This is is disgusting.  And the various rationales in this thread arguing one side or another is also disgusting.  This was a tragedy of evil corrupting innocence and justice will come to those deserving.  Such is the will of things incomprehensible to any of us.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 12:44:42 AM
god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

There are many risks when using chemicals..

Yes. For example, the United States used chemical weapons against the Viet Cong 4 decades ago, and the people there are still suffering from its consequences. In addition to the countless deaths and defects among the human population, the wild life and natural vegetation was also devastated in areas where the chemicals were used.

It will also unite people behind the ISIS.
The people who use chemical weapons will be seen (and rightfully so) as the real enemy.

We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect
legendary
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April 18, 2015, 07:40:22 AM
When reading your post, what came into my mind is:

• ISIS want to make problems in families. (Why?)
• Babies will not be taken care by mothers, so... ISIS takes them?!

ISIS want non-Muslim women to give birth to Muslim children (whether it is voluntary, or by force). That explains it. Islamic extremists have always treated non-Muslim women as sub-human. ISIS is no exception to this rule.
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April 18, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
This is a part of the ISIS strategy. Make the non-Muslim girls (especially the Yazidis and Christians) pregnant by raping them, and then release them once it is not longer possible to perform the abortions. If I had nukes with me, I'd drop them in Riyadh and Doha to teach a lesson to those who support these barbarians.

When reading your post, what came into my mind is:

• ISIS want to make problems in families. (Why?)
• Babies will not be taken care by mothers, so... ISIS takes them?!
legendary
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April 18, 2015, 05:23:09 AM
This is a part of the ISIS strategy. Make the non-Muslim girls (especially the Yazidis and Christians) pregnant by raping them, and then release them once it is not longer possible to perform the abortions. If I had nukes with me, I'd drop them in Riyadh and Doha to teach a lesson to those who support these barbarians.
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April 18, 2015, 03:54:32 AM
Put it this way, nobody got butt-hurt when we killed the Nazis. Slaughtering the SS was a good thing. Why?
Because pure evil just needs to be purged from the system.

And with that note in mind, I believe ISIS needs to be purged, today, not tomorrow but RIGHT NOW.
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April 18, 2015, 03:32:21 AM
What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!

According to news, she is in Germany(IIRC) atm and doctors are waiting for her to give a birth. I still don't know whether she is physically and/or mentally enough to give a birth and also what will happen to child.

Edit: Relevant post.

Others might have also traumatized. This also tells they aren't doing abortion but waiting for her to give a birth. I hope she has physical and mental strength for this and..., what will happen to the baby? Huh

The young girl was one of over 200 Yazidi women and children to be released this week after spending eight months captive in the hands of the extremists, according to the Canadian newspaper.

Daoud claimed that many of the women and young girls who were set free by ISIS would be shamed when reunited with their families, due to suspicions that they had been defiled by the militants.

“If they are married, their husbands won’t take them back if they are pregnant,” he said. “And it’s clear that the babies will never be accepted.”

“I don’t know what the future would be for their babies,” Daoud added. “The girls and women don’t want them. They have suffered so much they just want to forget.”

The 9-year-old girl has been transported by a Kurdish aid group to a medical charity in Germany, according to the Toronto Star.

She will be looked after there until her baby arrives.



Shocking that their communities & families would feel ashamed of them, they have suffered and need / deserve love and support not to be thrown on the scrapheap. The treatment of women, including how they are seen by Islam is just disgusting and beneath contempt.

Edit:

There is something seriously wrong with a society which condones such behavior . . . .How is it possible that young adolescent females are being seduced by such barbarism?

It's not Islam who view like that, it is bad people who do.

I think in tribal areas they value prejudices more than other things.
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April 18, 2015, 03:11:10 AM
What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!

According to news, she is in Germany(IIRC) atm and doctors are waiting for her to give a birth. I still don't know whether she is physically and/or mentally enough to give a birth and also what will happen to child.

Edit: Relevant post.

Others might have also traumatized. This also tells they aren't doing abortion but waiting for her to give a birth. I hope she has physical and mental strength for this and..., what will happen to the baby? Huh

The young girl was one of over 200 Yazidi women and children to be released this week after spending eight months captive in the hands of the extremists, according to the Canadian newspaper.

Daoud claimed that many of the women and young girls who were set free by ISIS would be shamed when reunited with their families, due to suspicions that they had been defiled by the militants.

“If they are married, their husbands won’t take them back if they are pregnant,” he said. “And it’s clear that the babies will never be accepted.”

“I don’t know what the future would be for their babies,” Daoud added. “The girls and women don’t want them. They have suffered so much they just want to forget.”

The 9-year-old girl has been transported by a Kurdish aid group to a medical charity in Germany, according to the Toronto Star.

She will be looked after there until her baby arrives.



Shocking that their communities & families would feel ashamed of them, they have suffered and need / deserve love and support not to be thrown on the scrapheap. The treatment of women, including how they are seen by Islam is just disgusting and beneath contempt.

Edit:

There is something seriously wrong with a society which condones such behavior . . . .How is it possible that young adolescent females are being seduced by such barbarism?
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April 18, 2015, 02:50:19 AM
What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!

According to news, she is in Germany(IIRC) atm and doctors are waiting for her to give a birth. I still don't know whether she is physically and/or mentally enough to give a birth and also what will happen to child.

Edit: Relevant post.

Others might have also traumatized. This also tells they aren't doing abortion but waiting for her to give a birth. I hope she has physical and mental strength for this and..., what will happen to the baby? Huh

The young girl was one of over 200 Yazidi women and children to be released this week after spending eight months captive in the hands of the extremists, according to the Canadian newspaper.

Daoud claimed that many of the women and young girls who were set free by ISIS would be shamed when reunited with their families, due to suspicions that they had been defiled by the militants.

“If they are married, their husbands won’t take them back if they are pregnant,” he said. “And it’s clear that the babies will never be accepted.”

“I don’t know what the future would be for their babies,” Daoud added. “The girls and women don’t want them. They have suffered so much they just want to forget.”

The 9-year-old girl has been transported by a Kurdish aid group to a medical charity in Germany, according to the Toronto Star.

She will be looked after there until her baby arrives.


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April 18, 2015, 02:45:23 AM
What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!
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