Topic: Israel: Operation Protective Edge - page 6. (Read 14723 times)

It's more of a figure of speech. I doubt you hold extravagant expectations, but many people do. I will say that anyone who believes the American people, who adore Kim Kardashian, Honey boo boo, and Paris Hilton will engage in the critical thinking required to overcome historical preference for Israel IS dreaming.

The ceasefire looks like a complete cessation of hostilities
At least for now the war is over and can be considered finished but what goes on in the shadows and who creates the next hotspot or triggers the next event is uncertain, but at least their is a return of an unsteady peace in the Palestine.

As far as the OP goes though; Hamas and other Palestinian Gaza factions have announced a ceasefire. We'll see what Israel has to say about it. In either case it depends on talks that will take place in a month on prisoner releases and a port construction and I doubt they will go well.

Let me put on my great Carnak hat...


Israel will accept it, and within a week both sides will be saying the other side broke it. But Hamas will be the first to send rockets. Yes, I'm prescient.

The Hamas name is poison because people don't understand what Hamas is and Hamas is terrible at PR when it comes to western populations, but then again, their PR efforts aren't focused on US populations, but on Arab and Muslim populations.

I think i said it all by calling Hamas mindless killers,they just kill,even their own people,they have no strategy ..........

Haha, I wrote the above before I even read this. I guess I don't understand what you think I am dreaming of. You seem to keep assigning these expectations to me that I don't have.

I don't get your point in relation to the article posted, can you elaborate some more please ?

I look at it a bit differently. I have a set standard when it comes to how much information I need to form a definitive opinion on something. Anything more than a casual glance at the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would be enough to see past the propaganda shell. I realize that many people don't have that standard, particularly it seems, with this issue (many people with whom I speak don't even understand the difference between Gaza or the West Bank or even understand that they are divided territories or don't even know what the Palestinian Authority is, etc). For that though I'll always criticize as I think anyone should.

I also think you have a bit of a misunderstanding as to my expectations when it comes to this issue, which is why it is often hinted or blatantly stated that I am an idealist. Not at all. I have an ideal I would like to see magically happen sure (I'm sure you do too), but that doesn't mean that I think it is likely to happen at all. In fact, I am on record here over a year ago stating that nothing would come of the peace process and that fighting would eventually resume.

I state what does happen, and what should happen, that is an important part of discourse that is largely absent from public spaces when it comes to this issue where sound bytes and propaganda tends to rule the day the world over. I don't expect things to magically change, but I'm also not going to surrender to that system and I will always gladly challenge anyone relying on or utilizing it.

Again, you are suggesting that Palestine...more specifically Gaza, is of enough importance to Americans in general to spend the time to consider the frankly complex issues that are behind the fighting.

The same people who think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_Comes_Honey_Boo_Boo is worth watching. I really think you're dreaming. Just the name Hamas is poison, mostly because they are dumb enough to make extreme statements and do extremely disturbing things...then admit to it.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Co...-Israel-371952

And this is why I believe Hamas is going to continue to look like mindless killers to the US. Some of them are mindless killers; the question is why. Disliking Hamas shouldn't blind people to everything else. I know it can, but only because people want to be small.

Let me put it another way
I mean its fair in the sense that what the media decides to report can sometimes be small massacures when larger murders and genocides are ignored in other parts of the world
I meant in no way to justify that type of killing just how media sources report on these type of issues.

Iraqbodycount anyone
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

Got another 1481 In July
At 667 for August

Almost at 10,000 for the year to date

+1 how does one acknowledge such shameful thinking?

Really? To me, that seems more like a "if others can slaughter people by the thousands, why can't we?" sort of excuse. It should go without saying that, regardless of who is doing the killing or how many are killed, that is wrong.

Seems like a fair diagram
Lot of massacres around the world but the ones that the press decides to use are interesting.

America is upset they accessed special bunkers where America stores weapons in Israel for emergencies without the proper approval. It's not so much as a low point since the proper requirement was always to get approval from congress, this is more just a slap on the wrist. Weapons from overseas will still come in as budgets plan, this means something entirely different.

These bunkers are called WRSA-I's or..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Reserve_Stock

"The move to suspend the arms supplies comes after White House and State Department officials discovered that the Israeli military had been receiving ammunition from the Pentagon without White House oversight."

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/news...e.php?id=19455

US stopped missile shipments to Israel. Looks like Obama does not care one bit about our only ally in the region.