Isreal and Palestine war and losing your wallet phrase and password

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 27, 2023, 09:09:49 AM

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You have to be creative in times of war to store your keys safely somewhere you know it's not going to be destroyed. Keeping it with you all the time is a good idea. I think I would store my keys inside my wallet, within my documents, written as a poem or letter, that is, something with emotional meaning, to avoid suspicions by potential regulators or enemies who can ask for my documents at some point of the war.

Another idea is to just memorize it. It's not an impossible task, and considering how important it is, I think nobody would complain about making some effort to memorize their keys.

Actually memorizing it is the best choice, although it is not as easy as it is said, but if we try, I think nothing is impossible.
That's how it should be, keeping the private key always with us under any circumstances. So besides me keeping it in a very safe place in some places, keeping it in your wallet is also a good option.
And I also plan to engrave my personal wallet on a small steel plate and wear it as a necklace because that way my personal wallet is always with me. And that's another option besides me storing it in a place that is safe from anything, and depending on the type of dangerous condition and I will anticipate if there are signs.

In some circumstances, especially in conflict or war situations, it's best to have a prhase with us all the time. We don't know what will happen to our homes in times of war, and frankly we don't know what will happen to us either, unless we are in a safe zone.
But I didn't think of carrying it with me or writing it on a piece of paper, because that would be risky too, as it's easy to damage. Memorizing it is a good option too, but make sure you never forget what you've memorized, because in difficult situations, in my experience it's very difficult to remember what you've memorized.

It's unlikely that a good way to store the private keys to our cryptocurrency wallets is to keep them with us in a war zone. In this case, there are also many options for how we can lose them. It would probably be the best option to send them to your relatives or good friends in a safe zone. But everywhere has its risks. Apparently, there are simply no completely safe options.

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Quote from: gantez on October 17, 2023, 03:55:18 AM

Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

There is nothing you can do if you are not conscious enough to keep your wallet seed phrase in a hardware wallet or in something that you can always carry on. At first, it is bad practice to keep your PK or recovery phase only on a computer or laptop. You should keep it in a hardware wallet, or at least in a pen drive if you cannot afford a hardware wallet. You can still lose your hardware wallet or pendrive but the chance of not being lost in a war zone is higher. You can make a tattoo of the seed phrase on different part of your body though this sounds funny in an extreme place like war zone it is not a bad idea because your intention is to keep your wallet secure no matter what.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 27, 2023, 02:58:49 AM

Quote from: uneng on November 26, 2023, 04:32:17 PM

You have to be creative in times of war to store your keys safely somewhere you know it's not going to be destroyed. Keeping it with you all the time is a good idea. I think I would store my keys inside my wallet, within my documents, written as a poem or letter, that is, something with emotional meaning, to avoid suspicions by potential regulators or enemies who can ask for my documents at some point of the war.

Another idea is to just memorize it. It's not an impossible task, and considering how important it is, I think nobody would complain about making some effort to memorize their keys.

Actually memorizing it is the best choice, although it is not as easy as it is said, but if we try, I think nothing is impossible.
That's how it should be, keeping the private key always with us under any circumstances. So besides me keeping it in a very safe place in some places, keeping it in your wallet is also a good option.
And I also plan to engrave my personal wallet on a small steel plate and wear it as a necklace because that way my personal wallet is always with me. And that's another option besides me storing it in a place that is safe from anything, and depending on the type of dangerous condition and I will anticipate if there are signs.

In some circumstances, especially in conflict or war situations, it's best to have a prhase with us all the time. We don't know what will happen to our homes in times of war, and frankly we don't know what will happen to us either, unless we are in a safe zone.
But I didn't think of carrying it with me or writing it on a piece of paper, because that would be risky too, as it's easy to damage. Memorizing it is a good option too, but make sure you never forget what you've memorized, because in difficult situations, in my experience it's very difficult to remember what you've memorized.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 27, 2023, 02:58:49 AM

Quote from: uneng on November 26, 2023, 04:32:17 PM

You have to be creative in times of war to store your keys safely somewhere you know it's not going to be destroyed. Keeping it with you all the time is a good idea. I think I would store my keys inside my wallet, within my documents, written as a poem or letter, that is, something with emotional meaning, to avoid suspicions by potential regulators or enemies who can ask for my documents at some point of the war.

Another idea is to just memorize it. It's not an impossible task, and considering how important it is, I think nobody would complain about making some effort to memorize their keys.

Actually memorizing it is the best choice, although it is not as easy as it is said, but if we try, I think nothing is impossible.
That's how it should be, keeping the private key always with us under any circumstances. So besides me keeping it in a very safe place in some places, keeping it in your wallet is also a good option.
And I also plan to engrave my personal wallet on a small steel plate and wear it as a necklace because that way my personal wallet is always with me. And that's another option besides me storing it in a place that is safe from anything, and depending on the type of dangerous condition and I will anticipate if there are signs.

It's a shame that I find it difficult to memorize so much, but now I save it on Google Drive's private key, and of course I back it up in notes that I hide, but don't write it on paper, like writing on a steel plate that you have worked on. of the many options, I think the safest is to memorize it, because only we know, but for forgetful people it is difficult, so they need help to store it.

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Quote from: arimamib on November 27, 2023, 03:35:06 AM

So far I use two tricks to save all my seed phrase and passwords and other important digital privacy/secret;
1. I use email to wrote them down the email draft, and save them there.
2. I use Twitter to wrote them down on the Tweet draft, and save them there.

This is the worst way to save seed phrase I have ever seen. What if your account or email get hacked? We always suggest others not to store your private key/seed phrase online. You can do it if you use any kind of encryption like I said in my previous posts. You have to use sevral layers of security to protect them.

Quote from: arimamib on November 27, 2023, 03:35:06 AM

The key to get back there is the email, the twitter username and a password that I will never forget, or a password that is related myself like my birthday or my mother's nickname. I think this way make me easy to access whenever I want without needing the same device, without worrying of losing it.

LOL. You are worst at privacy. Never share such confidential information online. No one wanted to know what did you used as your password. Imagine someone from your friends see this post.

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Back to the point, I know it's not safe, but I would create two email accounts set a 2FA on both of the accounts, and send an email to my other email writing the seed phrase. If I survive, my phone is likely to survive as well.

Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.

Well, apart from the options above, it seems that in Telegram there is also a Saved message menu which can be used as a storage mode, but don't lose the card number and that's the main requirement to be able to re-enter after the conflict is over. I think we can also save the data there.

However, I don't know yet how much the application can protect it so that it cannot be accessed by other people. Indeed, many warnings have been given, don't save important things online, whether the initial phrase or 2Fa key.

well yeah.. very nice ideas.. in the end, The remembrance is the most important thing to keep being strong.
Let me share my idea;
So far I use two tricks to save all my seed phrase and passwords and other important digital privacy/secret;
1. I use email to wrote them down the email draft, and save them there.
2. I use Twitter to wrote them down on the Tweet draft, and save them there.

The key to get back there is the email, the twitter username and a password that I will never forget, or a password that is related myself like my birthday or my mother's nickname. I think this way make me easy to access whenever I want without needing the same device, without worrying of losing it.
and remember, always give two options of acces to everything, just in case one of them has difficulty to access.

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Quote from: uneng on November 26, 2023, 04:32:17 PM

You have to be creative in times of war to store your keys safely somewhere you know it's not going to be destroyed. Keeping it with you all the time is a good idea. I think I would store my keys inside my wallet, within my documents, written as a poem or letter, that is, something with emotional meaning, to avoid suspicions by potential regulators or enemies who can ask for my documents at some point of the war.

Another idea is to just memorize it. It's not an impossible task, and considering how important it is, I think nobody would complain about making some effort to memorize their keys.

Actually memorizing it is the best choice, although it is not as easy as it is said, but if we try, I think nothing is impossible.
That's how it should be, keeping the private key always with us under any circumstances. So besides me keeping it in a very safe place in some places, keeping it in your wallet is also a good option.
And I also plan to engrave my personal wallet on a small steel plate and wear it as a necklace because that way my personal wallet is always with me. And that's another option besides me storing it in a place that is safe from anything, and depending on the type of dangerous condition and I will anticipate if there are signs.

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Quote from: gantez on October 17, 2023, 03:55:18 AM

Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

There is nothing you can do but acceptance and move on , because it is your fault not having back up
of your Phrases outside your computer as we knew that computers are always prone to any danger, even
water can make your computer have in trouble so the best way is to never rely in your PC to keep your phrases
and password safe .
try also to consider using back up that can easily be handled once there is War or similar catastropy happens and if you don't know
how to handle that then you should never invest and hold bitcoin.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on November 17, 2023, 04:36:50 PM

Quote from: Shishir99 on October 17, 2023, 07:56:54 AM

Back to the point, I know it's not safe, but I would create two email accounts set a 2FA on both of the accounts, and send an email to my other email writing the seed phrase. If I survive, my phone is likely to survive as well.

Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.

Well, apart from the options above, it seems that in Telegram there is also a Saved message menu which can be used as a storage mode, but don't lose the card number and that's the main requirement to be able to re-enter after the conflict is over. I think we can also save the data there.

However, I don't know yet how much the application can protect it so that it cannot be accessed by other people. Indeed, many warnings have been given, don't save important things online, whether the initial phrase or 2Fa key.

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in a war, even if you’ve lost everything you can still be considered as lucky since you lived
A war leaves everyone with losses if it’s only your pc that broke down
your coins are still safe given that you remember your password i just have my password memorized i have not told anyone nor have i written it on anywhere

as for seed phrases write down and keep it close to you at all times be discreet with the way you write it but in the worst case scenario wherein you lose your wallet and your seed phrase i’m afraid there’s nothing else you can do but start again i know it might seem hopeless as i know every victims of wars feel like but one needs to keep going especially if they’ve given a chance to continue life

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You have to be creative in times of war to store your keys safely somewhere you know it's not going to be destroyed. Keeping it with you all the time is a good idea. I think I would store my keys inside my wallet, within my documents, written as a poem or letter, that is, something with emotional meaning, to avoid suspicions by potential regulators or enemies who can ask for my documents at some point of the war.

Another idea is to just memorize it. It's not an impossible task, and considering how important it is, I think nobody would complain about making some effort to memorize their keys.

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Quote from: gantez on October 17, 2023, 03:55:18 AM

Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

the coins won't go anywhere if we remember the seed phrase, so try to remember the 12 words of the seed phrase in our brain, don't write it down or take a photo. If in the middle of war we won't be saved, won't we even think about it, we will definitely save ourselves. and our families the importance of learning self custody

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One should keep their password save in not only a single place but they should use numerous locations where their password and seed phrase will be save because once you forget your password and also you don't have copy it to another server then I think it will be more difficult for you to recover that saved coins. Although one has no knowledge during war that what will happen next so everyone is just struggling to save their lives because life is sweeter than money. One should save their private information in soft as well as hard form because no one knows that what will happen next to their soft data and also their hard data can be lost but if you save it on multiple sources then there is a chance to recover your lost wallet again.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on November 17, 2023, 04:36:50 PM

Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.

To be honest, all this time I have also used email as a store for initial phrases by sending from email to email as long as I have activated 2FA security. It is true that using steel plates or other physical objects will be very troublesome in a war situation, especially like the war in Palestine, of course writing phrases on plates will be very risky of being lost under the rubble of buildings, indeed steel plates are resistant to everything, but if they are buried in the ruins of buildings it will be difficult for us to find them. . There's nothing wrong with using a phrase on a steel plate, but it would be better if we used email too because it doesn't have a physical form, especially since email passwords are easier when the war is over.

In essence, keeping your wallet password is up to you, which makes it easier for you to access it again. Because sometimes the advice from many people may not be applicable to where we are.

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Quote from: gantez on October 17, 2023, 03:55:18 AM

Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

War is not desirable under any circumstances, especially the war that is going on between the two countries of Israel and Palestine, I am touched. In war nothing is more precious than human life, Bitcoin wallet seems to be of no importance to any war victim. I have not yet been exposed to any of the horrors of war. However, if a bitcoin investor dies in a war or dies in a war, if his close relative knows the password or security of his wallet and if that close relative survives the war, he can recover his lost bitcoin.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 19, 2023, 07:03:54 PM

bro, best believe that if you're in a war-torn country with no guarantee of survival, each day that you're alive and kicking is worth more than any amount of bitcoin on the planet. And I'm confident enough to say that if the third world war ever comes within our lifetimes, I'd happily take care of myself and the family that I have, first and foremost before I even begin to give a shit about the money that I've accumulated so far. Lives are irreplaceable, money can be gained back if you know the formula for success. I don't mean to be so cliche about saying this but this is literally the reality of things and you should at least have some consideration about the situation you're in first, before you even care about your money.

The first think anyone should be worried about is survival because we all know what war does to the society and its people and property, because what is now the point of not been alive and having bitcoin. We all should not pray for war because what is even happening in the world now that most of this countries are trying to superiority and the problem is they don't put in consideration the lives of their citizens and that is what suppose to come first. You have made a great point life is not replaceable when you gone you gone. Their is no magic that can be performed to bring you back once you dead. So people place value on money than their lifes. And forgetting that money can always be earned.

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bro, best believe that if you're in a war-torn country with no guarantee of survival, each day that you're alive and kicking is worth more than any amount of bitcoin on the planet. And I'm confident enough to say that if the third world war ever comes within our lifetimes, I'd happily take care of myself and the family that I have, first and foremost before I even begin to give a shit about the money that I've accumulated so far. Lives are irreplaceable, money can be gained back if you know the formula for success. I don't mean to be so cliche about saying this but this is literally the reality of things and you should at least have some consideration about the situation you're in first, before you even care about your money.

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Quote from: gantez on October 17, 2023, 03:55:18 AM

Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

I haven't experienced any war before, so things like this haven't happened to me before. But if you can lose your wallet private key in a war, all you can do is just start all over. But if you store your wallet private key in multiple places, if you are lucky enough to be able to access even one of them, then you can get your bitcoin back. But if you lose access to all of them, then nothing can be done about it than to start afresh. That's just part of the effect of war, that's why we shouldn't pray for war to happen because the damage it's always causing is high.

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Quote from: gantez on October 17, 2023, 03:55:18 AM

Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

No, I didn't lose any assets or my swallow, even though my swallow was destroyed by cold, my PC was destroyed, my house was destroyed during the war. The most important thing is that I remember the 12 word phrase because until now I have self custody cold wallet storage. If you enter the crypto world, remember not your keys, not your coins, don't store your assets on any exchange, learn about cold wallets because they really really help you in saving. assets and from there we also learn what is called responsibility because with self custody that is where we can fully control our assets

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on November 17, 2023, 04:36:50 PM

Quote from: Shishir99 on October 17, 2023, 07:56:54 AM

Back to the point, I know it's not safe, but I would create two email accounts set a 2FA on both of the accounts, and send an email to my other email writing the seed phrase. If I survive, my phone is likely to survive as well.

Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.

Moreover, I have learned about the PGP thing which can be used in computer and mobile devices as well, people can encrypt their seed phrase with PGP and send the encrypted message via email to save it as a document. In this way, this will be protected with another layer of security. It's batter to have it digitally because you never know when you are going to lose things. Even if you do not set 2FA in your email and encrypt your seed phrase with PGP and send your private key via email, people unlikely to understand what it is because not many people know what is PGP and how to encrypt/decrypt.

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