Topic: Isreal and Palestine war and losing your wallet phrase and password - page 4. (Read 998 times)

I suggest an additional option to save encrypted files to a new folder extension. rar which is password protected, this effort is to increase the security features of files that cannot be accessed directly if our email has been hacked or there is interference from company staff, hackers have to crack the .rar password then they have to open the phrase file, you have to set a complex password such as a combination of numbers, letters and characters.

Each person is responsible for storing Seed phrases/Mnemonics according to their respective techniques based on online or offline, but the best technique for storing offline is as suggested in the previous post, it is recommended to write the phare on laminated paper or print the phare on metal.

I know this is not a safe idea. But they can use encryption like PGP to encrypt the seed and send the encrypted message in an email. No one is likely to know what is this. And they can store their other information with such encryption. As long as you have 2FA enabled, I guess it's kinda safe from 3rd party unless the company staff (Google) check those emails.

About Hamas killing thousands, I do not support these things. What I like is, when Israel kills Palestanians civilians, Hamas attack them as a reaction. So, I did not like that they attacked first.

It sounds quite risky and there's a chance that an uncontrolled copy could be exploited by someone who inadvertently gets hold of our seed phrase. The more places we store our seed phrase, the greater the possibility of it being discovered, especially on a computer that's susceptible to viruses or malware. I personally don't recommend using this method.

It's better to keep one copy as a cloud-based file that employs specialized techniques to decipher the phrase. Just use a unique technique like a puzzle code that only you can solve. And one physical copy that can be accessed without an internet connection.

If you've lost everything then there's nothing you can do and in fact, even without war, you still have a chance of losing your seed phrases if you don't consider all the possibilities that could happen, just save them on a computer or other electronic device that can be lost or damaged, so make quite a lot of copies. and also storing it in a different place is very likely to reduce the risk. Unfortunately, most people only take preventative steps when an incident occurs so that they experience a loss first and then consider many ways to save it so that it doesn't happen again.

Even if he wasn't at war, storing the seed phrase on the PC was a bad and stupid idea. There is no need for war to destroy everything he has, daily dangers from the internet or in life are enough to rob him of all his assets if he continues to store them on his PC. Storing seed phrases on internet-connected devices or on computers, phones...is never recommended. I remember we have discussed this issue thousands of times and for many years, but why do some people still make these basic mistakes when investing in bitcoin?

That stupid thing if it still exists (save his investment on PC), I don't know what he thinks in the middle of the war, he still brings the laptop where all his treasure is inside on the laptop. 

Does he know if Bitcoin is one of the simple instruments of investment?. we don't even need to bring anything like fiat, gold, safe box or other items when run in the middle of a war. In bitcoin, we only need a 12 word mnemonic seed that we can write on laminate paper or metal plate. If you want to be safe write it on a metal plate, that's not much either, we just need 5x10 cm plate to stamp 4 letter seed. Just simple like that.

If you create your wallet in a secure machine with open source software using an open operating system like GNU/Linux (better also to be done offline), there's no need to worry. You can keep your coins at your address for years. The only time to worry about moving the coins would be if bitcoin potentially needs a quantum resistance upgrade. You don't actually need to move your coins constantly. Cryptography of BTC isn't known to be broken and so long as that remains true an address whose private key was created securely has no need to stop being used to store coins. 

If our seed phrase and private key are burned and no other backup is available then we lose all the coins on that wallet address.  The first thing to do to survive after the war is to look for a source of income to establish funds for daily needs while looking for a possible source of food so that I wouldn't starve to death.  This is obviously a no-brainer answer.

I won't be choosy because it is fortunate to find a job after a war where the economy is devastated by the recent war.

Your computer malfunctioning for some reason, in this case due to a war, should not be a problem as any wallet software will tell you to create a backup of your seed words when you create a new wallet, also while it would be bad to lose access to our coins, getting out alive out of a war is a good outcome even if you have nothing else but the clothes over your body, as all of those that were not so lucky would have given anything to be on your position.

It pains me how some persons feel free to write there seed phrase on paper or there file seeing it as more comfortable than it supposed to be. Sometimes we have never considered war as an option or strange that can happen to us. We need to understand the basic and how safe we need to keep our seed phrase to make sure that we don't lose our seed phrase from unpopular reasons. War is something that we all pray should never happen to us and we need to be very careful how we go keep our seed phrases to avoid issues that can make us not have excess to our seed phrase.

Not really recommended to store PK or seed on the cloud or email. The risk of losing it during a war is the same as losing the coins because you store your details online.
There is not much preparation for you to be able to avoid losing it if you live somewhere in Gaza though. Things escalate so quickly, that you may not be able to hide your scratch paper where your seeds are.

If I'm sure the corner where my computer is isn't burntor destroyed, I go back to the pile of rubles dig my computer, and recover the seed. Seem the only way.

In this case, if you have seen or been aware or wary that your place does have that in war situation then you should really be that attentive or tending back up everything.
If you do see that if your paper which your keys been written is at risks then its better to store up those PK's on cloud or on email which i dont really that recommended
knowing that exploits and unauthorized access could happen but for the sake of things to be that just in temporary then it wont really be that a bad choice.
You wont really be bothering yourself with those keys and you wont really be that stressing yourself on trying to protect it.

You could always make that access anytime if ever you do need to have that wallet which those pk's being stored neither on an email or whatever cloud storages.
On the time that the war is over then it would really be that right that you should be erasing those pk's then go back into your traditional offline storage or safekeeping
of those keys.

There are indeed situations which it is really that hard specially on war on which everything you do posses might be burned up or would
really be that abandon.This is why physical storages isnt really that recommended this type. They are really that prone on getting lost
or would be burnt out.

I think money will be the last thing in your mind in this situation. People say all kinds of things about war but none of them will work when you face the situation yourself. In theory, bitcoin is borderless and you can leave your country taking your wealth with you etc… what if the borders are closed? Then you are fucked. What good is btc if you can’t leave the country like the people in Gaza now? Royally fucked. The life after the war will not start for you unless you survive the war. And you very well may not survive through it. It is not even good to think about money when bombs are landing around you. These thoughts will distract you and any small distraction may cost your life.

Having a cold storage doesn't mean it protects your assets, it is you who should protect the cold storage. In times of war we cannot predict what would happen, we knew how things are pacing during this time, but always assume that it will be a massive destruction. I don't like thinking these things but this is true, so if you possess a physical storage for your assets then you must avoid any physical destruction to secure your assets.

Perhaps, keeping a portable laptop with you that you can always go with you is the best thing to have.

I've secured my wallet phrase in two forms: physical and digital. The method I employ for digital backup is quite unique because only I can decipher the message I've created. It's like a regular two-paragraph story, but I can transform it into a wallet phrase to access my BTC wallet.

Every two weeks, I make it a point to refresh my memory on the technique I've devised for extracting the wallet phrase from the paragraph I've created. This way, I won't easily forget the method I've self-implemented. Discover your own way to perform digital backups as well. This will make your wallet resilient against natural disasters or even wars.

I mean, yeah. That is war. I would rather lose all my money and material things than my life. And I could always start anew. It's only money after all...

The good thing about Bitcoin is that even though there are investors, there is only a certain amount of Bitcoin that can never increase beyond that number. So Bitcoin will always be a asset which appreciates in value over time, as long as there is a demand for it. And I see no reason why there would not be a demand for Bitcoin. Unless the world was so torn asunder that the global internet network was no longer working/repairable.

But even then, I am sure there would be communities of survivors with their own local internet and Bitcoin.

It is really important to know what can be done to protect the wallet phrase and password in such a disaster in life. Since here it is said in the context of war that how to secure the wallet during the war. In this case my personal suggestion would be to transfer the whole funds from your all wallet to a decentralized wallet. Then memorizing the private phrases of that wallet.
Because it is normal that you will not remember the phrase and password of more than one(multiple wallets). Since such a war does not start suddenly, there are some warnings before that, so I would say that it would be best to memorize the private phrases of a decentralized wallet in the same way that we memorize mobile numbers. Moreover, another way is to sync online but here syncing these private phrases online means making the private key public because there is a possibility of hacking.
Moreover, many users have shared tricks on the Bitcoin forum to protect the seed phrase of the wallet from natural disasters that can come at any time. You can visit them if you want.
Securing Your Seed Phrase with Washers
How to backup a seed phrase?
[Full Guide+Code]Seed Phrase & The Process of Deriving Bitcoin Addresses from It
[LIST] Bitcoin Seed Backup Tools
Crypto Security - Additional Protection For Your Seed/Private Keys.

It doesn’t matter for what exact reason the wallet's seed phrase is lost, be it a war, an earthquake, a global flood, a volcanic eruption, “substitute the cataclysm you need”, in each case the physical destruction of the carrier of your seed phrase (paper, metal, file on a PC or flash drive). The standard principle of creating a backup copies can help here. Of course, in different locations (countries), so that if one single copy of the seed phrase is destroyed, you won’t have to ask questions similar to yours. It is strongly recommended to prepare for such disasters (as for any force majeure circumstances) in advance.

There is another option: store the seed phrase on the Internet (cloud storage and the like), which allows access from anywhere in the world, but this has its own vulnerabilities. Unauthorized people may have access to the file. This option is only possible with a carefully encrypted file (access) to seed phrase and only in the absence of other more reliable alternative options.

War will result in great destruction in the warring countries, not only will infrastructure be destroyed, casualties will also fall on both sides. Every individual who holds crypto assets must have a strategy so that their assets can be taken back when peace occurs (if the individual holding crypto assets does not become a victim).
When the atmosphere is chaotic, saving Phrases on a PC is not recommended. You need to choose the safest place to store Phrases such as non-flammable and heat-resistant objects. Apart from thinking about your personal safety, you also need to think about the assets stored in your Wallet so you can use them again to finance your personal needs when they are safe.

There is not much that you can do in situations like that. You can back up all you want but if the thing is not indestructible then you are just unfortunate. You can't make online backup as that is quite risky. Other things like paper wood or metal could be destroyed in war. But if you're lucky as those things survived only then you can get back your account. Otherwise, there are some ways you can back up your phrase key.

You can encode your phrase key using some mathematical term or some algorithm that you come up with. It should be done in a way so that only you can decode it.
So imagine this is a 12-word phrase key. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. Now if we divided into four part with three words per group we get something like this. 1.2.3 4.5.6 7.8.9 10.11.12 now you can play with it and make a formula. As we have four groups we can randomize it. G1 (1234) G2 (456) G3 (789) G4 (10.11.12)
Now you can randomize it like this: G3 G1 G2 G4 and after every group there should be a random word or two in between those groups. Then you can back up the hole word list online. And then all you need to remember is which group comes after which group. And the number of random word you put in between them. If you can remember 3124 then you can get the whole phrase key from your online backup. It is still risky, but the hackers will have a hard time decoding it.