Topic: IT is likely the first person who will live to be 1,000yo is already alive today - page 2. (Read 4497 times)

The one thing that all these disciplines have as their bottom line is that they are all "ifs." What I mean is, if things had happened in the past to have gone exactly like the studies said they did, then they might very well be correct. However, nobody knows for a fact that all these things in ancient history happened exactly the way the studies say they did. There are potential and possible changes in history, even in physics that might have affected things differently. We just don't know for sure.

Go study geography, archaeology, and paleontology. In fact go and become a professional in one of those fields. Once you do, then you may continue to post on this thread. Otherwise you look like one hell of an uneducated fool.

If there are living organisms that seem as old as or older than 25,000 years, nobody has been around long enough to verify the truth. Suggestions, even when backed by modern science, can't take into account nearly all the potential happenings over a 25,000 year period that might be giving science a false reading.

The Devil put that science stuff here to fool us, I tell ya!

And there are organisms older than 25,000 years on this planet that are still alive today.

Your lack of knowledge is astounding. You take a book that's been refuted over things that have been tested thoroughly through the scientific method. You've never seen or heard god, yet you believe. Sir, that's called believing purely by faith. To believe in something by faith alone or even partly is only what fools do. You have the ability to reason, so use it.

The Bible doesn't state incorrect things. It simply states things for a different purpose than unbelievers generally understand. However, on the long side, the earth is no more than 25,000 years old. Modern science that suggests that it is, is only guessing. The Bible leaves this open to an absolute max of about 25,000 years. My personal interpretations suggest a much shorter time.

Except it's not an opinion. The bible states incorrect things that have already been refuted, such as the age of the Earth. There are trees living right now, older than how old the bible says Earth is.

Lots of things could happen. Your opinion on the validity of the Bible is as invalid as any other opinion might be.

Your opinion is as valid as the Ancient Greeks that believed in their Pantheon of Gods and Goddesses. No one cares, the proof of the bible's invalidity(It's inconsistencies and contradictions) are enormous and it truly is a storybook, nothing more.

With that being said, yes the first person to live an incredibly extended lifespan could indeed already be alive right ow.

I don't understand you.

It is Jesus Who gave you life, when, in His pre-incarnate form He created this whole universe along with the Father.

It is He Who held the universe together when humankind sinned, and accidentally set its destruction in place.

It is He Who died on the cross and arose again to do the above.

It is He who is working on creating a better universe for us all, because this one will ultimately destroy itself; you can see it happening in the fact that all life dies.

It is He Who wants to share life, love and the new universe with you... where there will be peace and joy forever.

And you want to destroy Him?

Some of you people are really weird, and really have a death wish for yourselves.

I wish I could take this Jesus person / myth and shove him up a Trex's ass. I truly do.
Regardless, how many of you have heard of the South african Penis transplant story ?

Scientists have identified a drug that rejuvenates ageing muscle and brain tissue



Scientists have identified a drug that simultaneously makes ageing muscle and brain tissue in mice act young again. The research is in its very early stages, but this could represent the first step towards a treatment that restores youth to multiple parts of the body at once.

As we get older, part of the reason our bodies start failing is because adult stem cells stop replacing our damaged cells. But scientists have found that a drug known as Alk5 kinase inhibitor can perk up old stem cells in various tissue types around the body, restoring their ability to keep it young.

“We established that you can use a single small molecule to rescue essential function in not only aged brain tissue but aged muscle,” one of the research team, David Schaffer from the University of California, Berkeley Stem Cell Centre in the US, said in a press release. “That is good news, because if every tissue had a different molecular mechanism for ageing, we wouldn’t be able to have a single intervention that rescues the function of multiple tissues.”

This research is particularly exciting because, instead of focussing on individual organs, this new drug could help make the whole body, including the brain, function as if it were younger. After all, what's the point of trying to keep our bodies alive forever if our brains turn to mush after we hit 100 (and vice versa)?

The key to this process is altering the stem cell environment, which naturally changes as we get older and stops stem cells from doing their job.

A team led by Irina Conboy, also at the University of California, Berkeley, first did this in 2005, when they showed that they could infuse old mice with blood from their younger counterparts, and rejuvenate ageing stem cells. Based on this research, a study began last year to see if this approach could help treat human Alzheimer's patients.

Unfortunately, drug transfusions are impractical and can be dangerous, so the Conboy's team instead tried to find out what it was specifically in the blood of the old mice that was ageing their stem cells.

Over the past decade, one clear culprit has emerged - a growth factor known as TGF-beta1, which the team found is upregulated as we age, and suppresses stem cell activity. Publishing in the journal Oncotarget, they describe how they've finally figured out how to block its activity.

The drug Alk5 kinase inhibitor, which is already being trialled as an anticancer agent, is able to block the growth factor's receptors in mice, stopping it from ageing the body's stem cells. "This is really the first demonstration that we can find a drug that makes the key TGF-beta1 pathway, which is elevated by ageing, behave younger, thereby rejuvenating multiple organ systems," Conboy said in the release.

However, the researchers are careful to caution that this is just one biochemical pathway involved in ageing, and other cellular processes such as inflammation also play a big role in the process. They're now looking for other ways to change the stem cell environment to keep them younger for longer.

"The challenge ahead is to carefully retune the various signalling pathways in the stem cell environment, using a small number of chemicals, so that we end up recalibrating the environment to be youth-like," Conboy explained.

Once they can work out how to keep the stem cells happy, it will effectively unlock our body's own ability to heal itself and stay young indefinitely.

Of course we're a long way off that, but it's pretty exciting to think that we're finally beginning to understand how our body ages... and how to reverse the process. Because if we want to live life like Roger Sterling from Mad Men and stay perpetually young at heart, we're going to need some help.


http://www.sciencealert.com/a-drug-has-been-found-that-rejuvenates-ageing-brain-and-muscle-tissue

As far as I know this show is the one who went the furthest into developing that idea (mixing it with a lot of actions of course).



Not for children.

Thats some interesting read there, has anyone ever tried to invent something like it? Wonder how the world will be in 1000 years, if it is still there

I've known plenty of oldies who were fully ready to go when the time came and there was no talk of wanting more life. I guess that's directly related to the state of their bodies in most cases.

I don't think I could tolerate thousands of years of life. The idea of it coming to a halt reasonably soon is a comforting thought sometimes.

A better solution all round would be to have your consciousness uploaded somewhere once the body has given out. No natural resources to consume and you can still experience, learn and offer some wisdom. You can also turn yourself off when things get boring and wait it out.

Lots (if not all) of the things in the partially quoted post are truth. But there are hidden things as well. Inside the above quote are some hidden things.

Youtube search on the name "Graham Hancock." Watch several of his videos. Look for corroborating evidence for the info in the videos. What are we looking for and finding? The worldwide evidence in archaeology, that in the past of the earth, there was a worldwide trade organization that may have been more scientifically advanced that we are... at least in some ways. It is the thing that many of us call Atlantis.

The above quote first says 100,000 years. Then it says 80 years, then 70, then 60, 15, and 5. It doesn't mention anything about the possible and potential many past times that mankind has reached a form of scientific or other greatness that has or might have surpassed our greatness of today.

Graham Hancock and others are showing the rise and fall of a worldwide civilization of mankind that suggestively happened prior to 12,500 in the past. Even if the timing and timelines are wrong, the evidence for the civilization is there.

The point? What makes us think that this time we are going to do what we failed to do in the past? True, we are going to try. But there are so many things right now in this world that indicate that if some great, worldwide catastrophe doesn't wipe us out (like what happened to Atlantis), we are on the verge of wiping ourselves out, with nukes, if nothing else. This time, we just might completely destroy all humankind from off the entire face of the earth.

Until we can do 200 years, 1,000 years along with cryogenics, is a Will-o'-the-Wisps future security. Of course, we will try. Have fun trying, or it isn't worth it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_escape_velocity

Kurzweil has written a few articles about this subject as well which are worth the read for anyone who is interested.


People who say that cryonics is crap are missing the point. You see, 99% of transhumanists don't want to be cryonically preserved. They would much rather prefer to continue living. But unfortunately, sometimes an accident can happen or a person's health can deteriorate to the point where it cannot sustain itself with current medicine. Compared to cremation or burial, cryonics is the least worst option since it affords the greatest possibility of recovery. We don't know what the exact likelihood of recovery is but many signs point towards it being >0%. This is the logic behind cryonics.

Morphologically modern humans have been around for 100,000 years. Antibiotics have only been around for 80 years and modern computers for 70 years. The discovery of the double helix was only made 60 years ago and only in the last 15 or so years did we sequence our own genome. Craig's Venter's artificial cell is only 5 years old. Last year, Intel announced their 14 nm chips.

As long as science and technology continues to advance, the age of nanotechnology will arrive. How am I so sure of this? Because the proof of work already exists in the form of cellular life today. We are working, living examples of nanotechnology. The nanomachines composed of protein which fulfill vital cellular processes are a working example of nanotechnology in action:




No modern cryonics provider "freezes" their patients. The correct term is vitrification and unlike freezing, it preserves the neural structures intact:




Link: http://www.alcor.org/cryomyths.html

We have no definition of consciousness, so whatever is said may be labeled invalid. We don't even know much about memories else we would be able to modify/erase and whatnot. If we copy consciousnesses wouldn't that make it a clone and not the original? How about we define it and learn how to transfer and/or store it?

Sebastian that depends on the damage. If it is only partial we might have technology that would assume how it looked before and repair it. Don't underestimate technology.
It's actually sure if you were born in the 90s and you live till 50-60s you're going to live much more than 100 years. Advancements in nanotechnology will get rid of almost all the common causes for death like cancer, hearth diseases and such. We just have to find a way to stay younger.

And this is what I meant by defining what consciousness is first, as it is not just a collection of memories... If we know what it is then even trying to live up to 1000 years inside a body would become futile. We would live as long as the universe will, as pure energy (consciousness).