Topic: IT is likely the first person who will live to be 1,000yo is already alive today - page 4. (Read 4497 times)

Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 19, 2015, 03:11:38 PM

I don't like the idea of Rockefeller, Soros, Buffett or any of the other criminal jerks being able to live longer than God/fate allows.

And yet you know they already are first in line $$$$...

But only first. The rest of us get the better, refined products that come later.

Indeed

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Quote from: Wilikon on April 20, 2015, 10:02:16 AM

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 19, 2015, 03:11:38 PM

I don't like the idea of Rockefeller, Soros, Buffett or any of the other criminal jerks being able to live longer than God/fate allows.

And yet you know they already are first in line $$$$...

But only first. The rest of us get the better, refined products that come later.

Indeed

<<<< Causes less cancer. |||| Causes more cancer. >>>>

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Quote from: BADecker on April 20, 2015, 09:57:15 AM

Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 19, 2015, 03:11:38 PM

I don't like the idea of Rockefeller, Soros, Buffett or any of the other criminal jerks being able to live longer than God/fate allows.

And yet you know they already are first in line $$$$...

But only first. The rest of us get the better, refined products that come later.

Indeed

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 19, 2015, 03:11:38 PM

I don't like the idea of Rockefeller, Soros, Buffett or any of the other criminal jerks being able to live longer than God/fate allows.

And yet you know they already are first in line $$$$...

But only first. The rest of us get the better, refined products that come later.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 19, 2015, 03:11:38 PM

I don't like the idea of Rockefeller, Soros, Buffett or any of the other criminal jerks being able to live longer than God/fate allows.

And yet you know they already are first in line $$$$...

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I don't like the idea of Rockefeller, Soros, Buffett or any of the other criminal jerks being able to live longer than God/fate allows.

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During those days men will seek death, but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 09:02:10 PM

Well then it has to be the Wilikoin Wink

I shall be honored if that ever happen even if I do not deserve it...

Although it would be a fun challenge to create such a coin I guess, even if we end up living for a new average of 200 years, not 2000...

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Well then it has to be the Wilikoin Wink

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 08:10:15 PM

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 09:30:42 AM

Gliese 832 c, for example, is described as a Planetary Class - warm superterran, Habitable class - mesoplanet, scoring a 0.81 on the Earth Similarity Index and it's only 16.1 ly away. No need to reach (referring to my Star Trek Warp speed chart) Warp 1 for that. We could make it there on an impulse cruise within a human lifespan! Who's in?

Only 16 light years! Wink

The human body can only accelerate so fast. How would you like to spend 40 years (20 speeding up, 20 slowing down) pressed into your seat at maximum acceleration? Remember we can't get anywhere near the speed of light - the more energy we apply the more gets converted to mass.

Yes but the acceleration need not be so great! A constant acceleration of 5m/s² applied to the ship will create a comfortable, artificial gravity for the occupants (actually half the gravity of earth) and will attain near light speed in one year. The ship will have traveled about 0.5 light years in that time. If we maintain that force over the duration of the journey and point the ship in the opposite direction at the halfway point maintaining that same constant acceleration in the opposite direction, the occupants of the ship can enjoy the benefits of the artificial gravity throughout the entire journey. Since we can't exceed the speed of light using this crude method of propulsion and current technology, the entire journey should take about 17 years.

Also, let's say we convert the mass of the ship to energy as we go. I'm thinking about a fusion type reactor though I don't have a mechanism for this yet but if the mass of the ship is going to increase with speed at near light speeds, we would have more fuel as well. By the time we arrive at our destination, most of our ship would be used up and we wouldn't have to worry about recycling it.

NB I have no training in nuclear physics.

The whole ship would be like a traveling wave reactor, burning itself out while reaching its destination...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_reactor

Never work. We would run into all that dark matter, and at those speeds annihilate ourselves.

Grin

I never said I would be on that particular ship... It's not like I will be an hurry jumping in if I can live 2000 years and wait for a better technology, in my geostationary space villa...

Dark matter is the least of our worries since we already have dark matter/energy maps to use for our travels. We just need to chart the best path through the fields.

http://io9.com/scientists-map-the-dark-matter-around-millions-of-galax-1698685506

Given that we're only going 16 ly, the maps of that region are probably very detailed already. Now that we also have a potentially awesome propulsion system, I suggest we start a funding round. What do you think; Bitcoin or Dogecoin? Keep in mind we might not need this for 1000 years or more while we work out the details. Which one is going to last?

We need a new coin that will be fulled mined 10 millions years from now... How shall we call it? Every single name I tried to come up with was already taken... Shocked

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Quote from: Wilikon on April 18, 2015, 04:23:59 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 18, 2015, 03:57:56 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 02:30:53 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 09:30:42 AM

Gliese 832 c, for example, is described as a Planetary Class - warm superterran, Habitable class - mesoplanet, scoring a 0.81 on the Earth Similarity Index and it's only 16.1 ly away. No need to reach (referring to my Star Trek Warp speed chart) Warp 1 for that. We could make it there on an impulse cruise within a human lifespan! Who's in?

Only 16 light years! Wink

The human body can only accelerate so fast. How would you like to spend 40 years (20 speeding up, 20 slowing down) pressed into your seat at maximum acceleration? Remember we can't get anywhere near the speed of light - the more energy we apply the more gets converted to mass.

Yes but the acceleration need not be so great! A constant acceleration of 5m/s² applied to the ship will create a comfortable, artificial gravity for the occupants (actually half the gravity of earth) and will attain near light speed in one year. The ship will have traveled about 0.5 light years in that time. If we maintain that force over the duration of the journey and point the ship in the opposite direction at the halfway point maintaining that same constant acceleration in the opposite direction, the occupants of the ship can enjoy the benefits of the artificial gravity throughout the entire journey. Since we can't exceed the speed of light using this crude method of propulsion and current technology, the entire journey should take about 17 years.

Also, let's say we convert the mass of the ship to energy as we go. I'm thinking about a fusion type reactor though I don't have a mechanism for this yet but if the mass of the ship is going to increase with speed at near light speeds, we would have more fuel as well. By the time we arrive at our destination, most of our ship would be used up and we wouldn't have to worry about recycling it.

NB I have no training in nuclear physics.

The whole ship would be like a traveling wave reactor, burning itself out while reaching its destination...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_reactor

Never work. We would run into all that dark matter, and at those speeds annihilate ourselves.

Grin

I never said I would be on that particular ship... It's not like I will be an hurry jumping in if I can live 2000 years and wait for a better technology, in my geostationary space villa...

Dark matter is the least of our worries since we already have dark matter/energy maps to use for our travels. We just need to chart the best path through the fields.

http://io9.com/scientists-map-the-dark-matter-around-millions-of-galax-1698685506

Given that we're only going 16 ly, the maps of that region are probably very detailed already. Now that we also have a potentially awesome propulsion system, I suggest we start a funding round. What do you think; Bitcoin or Dogecoin? Keep in mind we might not need this for 1000 years or more while we work out the details. Which one is going to last?

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Quote from: BADecker on April 18, 2015, 03:57:56 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 02:30:53 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 09:30:42 AM

Gliese 832 c, for example, is described as a Planetary Class - warm superterran, Habitable class - mesoplanet, scoring a 0.81 on the Earth Similarity Index and it's only 16.1 ly away. No need to reach (referring to my Star Trek Warp speed chart) Warp 1 for that. We could make it there on an impulse cruise within a human lifespan! Who's in?

Only 16 light years! Wink

The human body can only accelerate so fast. How would you like to spend 40 years (20 speeding up, 20 slowing down) pressed into your seat at maximum acceleration? Remember we can't get anywhere near the speed of light - the more energy we apply the more gets converted to mass.

Yes but the acceleration need not be so great! A constant acceleration of 5m/s² applied to the ship will create a comfortable, artificial gravity for the occupants (actually half the gravity of earth) and will attain near light speed in one year. The ship will have traveled about 0.5 light years in that time. If we maintain that force over the duration of the journey and point the ship in the opposite direction at the halfway point maintaining that same constant acceleration in the opposite direction, the occupants of the ship can enjoy the benefits of the artificial gravity throughout the entire journey. Since we can't exceed the speed of light using this crude method of propulsion and current technology, the entire journey should take about 17 years.

Also, let's say we convert the mass of the ship to energy as we go. I'm thinking about a fusion type reactor though I don't have a mechanism for this yet but if the mass of the ship is going to increase with speed at near light speeds, we would have more fuel as well. By the time we arrive at our destination, most of our ship would be used up and we wouldn't have to worry about recycling it.

NB I have no training in nuclear physics.

The whole ship would be like a traveling wave reactor, burning itself out while reaching its destination...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_reactor

Never work. We would run into all that dark matter, and at those speeds annihilate ourselves.

Grin

I never said I would be on that particular ship... It's not like I will be an hurry jumping in if I can live 2000 years and wait for a better technology, in my geostationary space villa...

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 02:30:53 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 09:30:42 AM

Gliese 832 c, for example, is described as a Planetary Class - warm superterran, Habitable class - mesoplanet, scoring a 0.81 on the Earth Similarity Index and it's only 16.1 ly away. No need to reach (referring to my Star Trek Warp speed chart) Warp 1 for that. We could make it there on an impulse cruise within a human lifespan! Who's in?

Only 16 light years! Wink

The human body can only accelerate so fast. How would you like to spend 40 years (20 speeding up, 20 slowing down) pressed into your seat at maximum acceleration? Remember we can't get anywhere near the speed of light - the more energy we apply the more gets converted to mass.

Yes but the acceleration need not be so great! A constant acceleration of 5m/s² applied to the ship will create a comfortable, artificial gravity for the occupants (actually half the gravity of earth) and will attain near light speed in one year. The ship will have traveled about 0.5 light years in that time. If we maintain that force over the duration of the journey and point the ship in the opposite direction at the halfway point maintaining that same constant acceleration in the opposite direction, the occupants of the ship can enjoy the benefits of the artificial gravity throughout the entire journey. Since we can't exceed the speed of light using this crude method of propulsion and current technology, the entire journey should take about 17 years.

Also, let's say we convert the mass of the ship to energy as we go. I'm thinking about a fusion type reactor though I don't have a mechanism for this yet but if the mass of the ship is going to increase with speed at near light speeds, we would have more fuel as well. By the time we arrive at our destination, most of our ship would be used up and we wouldn't have to worry about recycling it.

NB I have no training in nuclear physics.

The whole ship would be like a traveling wave reactor, burning itself out while reaching its destination...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_reactor

Never work. We would run into all that dark matter, and at those speeds annihilate ourselves.

Grin

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 02:30:53 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2015, 09:30:42 AM

Gliese 832 c, for example, is described as a Planetary Class - warm superterran, Habitable class - mesoplanet, scoring a 0.81 on the Earth Similarity Index and it's only 16.1 ly away. No need to reach (referring to my Star Trek Warp speed chart) Warp 1 for that. We could make it there on an impulse cruise within a human lifespan! Who's in?

Only 16 light years! Wink

The human body can only accelerate so fast. How would you like to spend 40 years (20 speeding up, 20 slowing down) pressed into your seat at maximum acceleration? Remember we can't get anywhere near the speed of light - the more energy we apply the more gets converted to mass.

Yes but the acceleration need not be so great! A constant acceleration of 5m/s² applied to the ship will create a comfortable, artificial gravity for the occupants (actually half the gravity of earth) and will attain near light speed in one year. The ship will have traveled about 0.5 light years in that time. If we maintain that force over the duration of the journey and point the ship in the opposite direction at the halfway point maintaining that same constant acceleration in the opposite direction, the occupants of the ship can enjoy the benefits of the artificial gravity throughout the entire journey. Since we can't exceed the speed of light using this crude method of propulsion and current technology, the entire journey should take about 17 years.

Also, let's say we convert the mass of the ship to energy as we go. I'm thinking about a fusion type reactor though I don't have a mechanism for this yet but if the mass of the ship is going to increase with speed at near light speeds, we would have more fuel as well. By the time we arrive at our destination, most of our ship would be used up and we wouldn't have to worry about recycling it.

NB I have no training in nuclear physics.

The whole ship would be like a traveling wave reactor, burning itself out while reaching its destination...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_reactor

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