It takes years to build a reputation and seconds to break it - page 11.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

Unfortunately these days ready-made scripts and license are available everywhere hence people are setting up business on the go. So, they might be getting ready to run a business within the times of a week. And for reputation, they might be having their own team who will be talking about on every social media and giving positive review at possible places.

Moreover for intentional scammers, only for the first time to build a business might take time and for repeating the same business model for second or third time, they might be coming up very quickly but in different name so that they could scam in quick succession and run away.

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Reputation is nothing when we talk about money , even how long they build the reputation and name but there is an involving High amount means the money will be the main objective and the reputation may seems to be not existing .

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The fake reviews will not have a chance to trick or slander the casino because the casino will try to defend and proves that they are not guilty. Even they will try to investigate it to find which people want to get them down.

The reputations can go away with one mistake and everything that they build from a long time ago can ruin. That is why the casino will not trying to make a mistake and they see a problem, and they will help their customer to solve the problem.

every casino must really help solve the problems faced by its customers because it is not impossible that their reputation is destroyed because of 1 customer who is not served that

in the gambling business reputation is a sensitive thing, build it with great difficulty and large capital, it will be a pity if they don't immediately clear their names when there are problems that befall

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Quote from: Saisher on June 30, 2021, 05:55:07 AM

Quote from: Genemind on June 29, 2021, 06:14:51 PM

I guess excellent service and transparency builds reputation. It is true thay it takes time and patience to build reputation. A random accusation cannot destroy a reputable casino. Loyal platform users will eventually defend a casino if they know based on their experience that they are truthful of their service. But it is true with just one wrong move, year long reputation can be damaged or be gone in a short span of time.

That's true every highly reputable gambling casino has its community of loyal followers and they will defend its reputation against fake reviews and if there are legit complaints they will urge the admin to resolve the issue because they too do not want to play in a gambling site with existing complaints, I will also defend a gambling site I'm playing if there are fake reviews.

The fake reviews will not have a chance to trick or slander the casino because the casino will try to defend and proves that they are not guilty. Even they will try to investigate it to find which people want to get them down.

The reputations can go away with one mistake and everything that they build from a long time ago can ruin. That is why the casino will not trying to make a mistake and they see a problem, and they will help their customer to solve the problem.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

Every business established has their own target why they are created ..

Some are for real business meaning to serve and gain , while others are purely for bad intentions , though at first they will pretend to be good one but in the end will show their true colors.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on June 29, 2021, 01:06:32 AM

I think the reason that stops the competition from directly doing it is because if the target proves that the accusations isn't true then there's a potential backfire from them which might damage their company. And I think they all have some tacit agreement that they will screw each other in a legal way because that's much satisfying than the dirty one.

But if the accusation has strong evidence then it certainly will not backfire, because the possibility that happened is cheating on the promotion he made. They make efforts from time to time to improve reputation but unfortunately, there are some of them who spoil it with their own actions and of course that case will be very unfortunate because after all the reputation will increase depending on the services they have.

That is exactly the point mate , the proofs must be provided before this finally called as scam site.

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Quote from: Genemind on June 29, 2021, 06:14:51 PM

I guess excellent service and transparency builds reputation. It is true thay it takes time and patience to build reputation. A random accusation cannot destroy a reputable casino. Loyal platform users will eventually defend a casino if they know based on their experience that they are truthful of their service. But it is true with just one wrong move, year long reputation can be damaged or be gone in a short span of time.

That's true every highly reputable gambling casino has its community of loyal followers and they will defend its reputation against fake reviews and if there are legit complaints they will urge the admin to resolve the issue because they too do not want to play in a gambling site with existing complaints, I will also defend a gambling site I'm playing if there are fake reviews.

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Quote from: Genemind on June 29, 2021, 06:14:51 PM

I guess excellent service and transparency builds reputation. It is true thay it takes time and patience to build reputation. A random accusation cannot destroy a reputable casino. Loyal platform users will eventually defend a casino if they know based on their experience that they are truthful of their service. But it is true with just one wrong move, year long reputation can be damaged or be gone in a short span of time.

A random accusation without substantiating any proof must be taken lightly like a drop in the ocean. Many would attempt to destroy the reputation of a gambling website but their long standing and history would prove otherwise.

Unfortunately, with the existence of lots of fake reviews, there are gambling websites that contain positive reviews but mostly from paid users. One of the strongest evidence of genuineness is not the reviews per se, but the time that they are operating in the online-gambling platform.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

It isn't just in business but in all aspect as well trust/reputation good personality.
It takes time and so many good deeds to gain and only seconds or slight mistake to destroy it all.
So better be careful on what you would do or say because it could destroy you or your business.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them?

It actually pays off quite well for the founders, especially if they are anonymous.

Why have the patience to wait 10 years to make 1 million dollars in hard-earned revenue if they can exit scam, face no legal remedy, and pocket millions of dollars in customer deposits? That is the psychology of a lot of exit-scamming businesses that have had a decorated past.

SafeDice is a good example of this as they were one of the more reputable casinos that would have had millions in revenue from investor and players if they just kept their doors open, but decided to take off with investor funds and leaving the site up.

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If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

Nothing. And it is happening in all industries as we speak. Which is why brand protection is so important.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

I hope 1XBIT management will go down to answer this they are doing massive marketing even launching a signature campaign on this forum, but they are scamming people, the people they have scam keeps posting allegations with proofs here and they cannot keep up with the allegations, it seems they are doing marketing to scam more people.

I'd never think if OP is pointing out 1XBIT in here because he never mentioned any betting sites.

A lot of gambling sites created this time and it so happens that many of them are scammy sites. yeah, they don't care about their reputation as that only it gives some attraction but their main goal is to collect money from their clients and then leave without any regrets. That's become a major problem this time, many have to do an exit scam. And this is badly affecting the image of crypto sites.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

I guess excellent service and transparency builds reputation. It is true thay it takes time and patience to build reputation. A random accusation cannot destroy a reputable casino. Loyal platform users will eventually defend a casino if they know based on their experience that they are truthful of their service. But it is true with just one wrong move, year long reputation can be damaged or be gone in a short span of time.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

It's easy to buy good reviews than tarnish their competitor's reputation because they cannot provide a piece of good information about their allegations, they can only show fake proofs, but if they are buying article reviews they might succeed doing this, but people involved in Cryptocurrency gambling prefers reading and believing reviews posted here allegations about gambling sites.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

I hope 1XBIT management will go down to answer this they are doing massive marketing even launching a signature campaign on this forum, but they are scamming people, the people they have scam keeps posting allegations with proofs here and they cannot keep up with the allegations, it seems they are doing marketing to scam more people.

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Quote from: blockman on June 29, 2021, 05:07:16 PM

But they're bothering those reputable casinos and they never stop. They might stop for a while but soon, they'll come back at any time that they wish to bother again the casino but they'll surely be ignored and no matter how hard they are to complain, they've been known to be that type of person. It's easy to just ignore them but their bothering is also irritating not just for those casinos that they bother but also for the other gamblers that don't seem to find any problem with the casino they're playing with.

Sure, they could come back and complain how many times they want but they're just wasting their time doing it over and over.

I agree it's annoying from a gambler's view knowing that you're playing on that site but it's best to avoid them because giving them attention would only fan the flames and encourage them to spread false accusations.

Quote from: peter0425 on June 29, 2021, 03:35:13 AM

But if that is what they really tend to do? to start as good company and eventually if they already build their reputation then they will start scamming little by little while others trusting and depending them others will become a victims .

It probably depends on the case because there's different reasons why casinos are forced to take away funds or freeze accounts. We can't always have nice things in casinos since there are gamblers that will abuse it.

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Quote from: blockman on June 28, 2021, 03:58:16 AM

Sometimes those people that have lost a lot are blaming the casino and calling them a scam despite being not a scam. The problem starts with them that they cannot accept whatever amount their losses have. And instead of blaming themselves, they're putting all their anguish into the casino where they've gambled, and that makes them a total nag to the casino that they've gambled with.

It's not that hard to disregard those type of people since we've seen so many people do this before and eventually they'll move on.

But they're bothering those reputable casinos and they never stop. They might stop for a while but soon, they'll come back at any time that they wish to bother again the casino but they'll surely be ignored and no matter how hard they are to complain, they've been known to be that type of person. It's easy to just ignore them but their bothering is also irritating not just for those casinos that they bother but also for the other gamblers that don't seem to find any problem with the casino they're playing with.

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They wont really be risking out their reputation that they had built up for years on just trying to scam out their users for one time go on stealing funds which I don't see for it to be worth on doing that or simply pointless.

Successful business would bring out fortune for more years to come as long they do know how to retain or maintain a good business in the market.

Those kind of destroying others business via those fake reviews and accusation is something that wont really be that effective.People aren't blind on
not to see on whats the truth.

Again, it wouldn't really matter if they risked their reputation if, in the first place, the casino's goal was to scam people. Yes, the long term profit would give them more compared to short term, but if they were to repeat this say one-two times, the profit they gained would be much more even if they did the casino in the long term. They can then build a better business model that would provide them much more profit even if they were to run it in the long term, whether it be an illegal one or a legal one, granted that a legal one would take much effort to build so that they aren't caught or revealed.

Would really be hard to determine of a site was really intending to scam out their users later on specially if they do really have done some good service on giving out leisure time in the public.

You wont really be able to distinguish until its done and that's a fact even with those legit sites would have also the tendency on becoming a scam which same as you said.

This is why when you do spot out something fishy or something wrong already then it would be wise that you should really be starting to avoid out.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on June 29, 2021, 01:06:32 AM

I think the reason that stops the competition from directly doing it is because if the target proves that the accusations isn't true then there's a potential backfire from them which might damage their company. And I think they all have some tacit agreement that they will screw each other in a legal way because that's much satisfying than the dirty one.

But if the accusation has strong evidence then it certainly will not backfire, because the possibility that happened is cheating on the promotion he made. They make efforts from time to time to improve reputation but unfortunately, there are some of them who spoil it with their own actions and of course that case will be very unfortunate because after all the reputation will increase depending on the services they have.

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Quote from: virasisog on June 29, 2021, 12:35:25 AM

Even reputable gambling site gets scam accussation at some point of their business, but if a platform is really reputable their users will defend them and their excellent and honest service will say it all. Some people who accuse gambling platforms are not even aware they had broken TOS why their funds or account is frozen or restricted. There is always two sides of story and people nowadays don't beleive scam accussation without proof.

That is what every business will face while running its business because it will be like a competition from every gambling site to get more customers to each casino. One casino can do many things against the other casino, which is the hard thing each casino should realize. But as long as one casino is still doing the greatest things for its members and not trying to scam its members, that casino will not get a problem in the future. Even their member will be on their side.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

It's a despicable practice, but, unfortunately, it seems like some competitors resort to it. However, as far as I can tell, more often than not those tarnishers we see in various threads here are not paid for their ranting. They are just either failed scammers, or addicted gamblers who forget about their previous losses and start blaming the site for "inside job" and things like that.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

But if that is what they really tend to do? to start as good company and eventually if they already build their reputation then they will start scamming little by little while others trusting and depending them others will become a victims .

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