It takes years to build a reputation and seconds to break it - page 12.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on June 25, 2021, 05:00:02 PM

They wont really be risking out their reputation that they had built up for years on just trying to scam out their users for one time go on stealing funds which I don't see for it to be worth on doing that or simply pointless.

Successful business would bring out fortune for more years to come as long they do know how to retain or maintain a good business in the market.

Those kind of destroying others business via those fake reviews and accusation is something that wont really be that effective.People aren't blind on
not to see on whats the truth.

Again, it wouldn't really matter if they risked their reputation if, in the first place, the casino's goal was to scam people. Yes, the long term profit would give them more compared to short term, but if they were to repeat this say one-two times, the profit they gained would be much more even if they did the casino in the long term. They can then build a better business model that would provide them much more profit even if they were to run it in the long term, whether it be an illegal one or a legal one, granted that a legal one would take much effort to build so that they aren't caught or revealed.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 25, 2021, 04:38:27 AM

Exit scamming strategy is exist in every field, so when a company earned lot of reputation and made enough money for their future then they can scam people by closing their business but in real world its not possible since we know the company owners so the laws of our country will punish them.

Anyway a company with good reputation may not do this since they already on the top of the list so they can keep making money ebery year and also their company will grow bigger.

I think it's hard for them when they just close everything they built years ago since the competition in the market is already tough. However, if they planned this kind of thing from the start, then they will close their business like what we have seen on the cloud mining scam in the past years. they often do this even though their business was already successful and you will not imagine that they will gonna do that. But it is already planted by those scammers there's nothing you can do about it.

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I think the reason that stops the competition from directly doing it is because if the target proves that the accusations isn't true then there's a potential backfire from them which might damage their company. And I think they all have some tacit agreement that they will screw each other in a legal way because that's much satisfying than the dirty one.

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We must be strict in determining scams, if there are already reports as well occurs problem when using that casino we must not tolerate or continue it especially if we have too much money in that casino. Better to only limit gambling. Those legit casinos who'd already built their reputation will not do anything in small amount of money so as long as you play with limited money everything can be fine.

It's not just strict but we also have to be skeptical about the project or gambling site or anything online because the Internet is a Wild West and anyone can hurt you and your money with close to impossible apprehension of the scammers.

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Even reputable gambling site gets scam accussation at some point of their business, but if a platform is really reputable their users will defend them and their excellent and honest service will say it all. Some people who accuse gambling platforms are not even aware they had broken TOS why their funds or account is frozen or restricted. There is always two sides of story and people nowadays don't beleive scam accussation without proof.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

I think that there is a significant misconception here.

When there is virtually no legal repercussions, exit scamming casinos can gross their founders significantly more than if the site was continued to be run legitimately. That's just the plain reality of it, unfortunately. Even dooglus has mentioned this before in one post of his ages ago.

You shouldn't just count on reputation, as important as it is, as a gauge for how much you trust a casino/sportsbook. Also think about whether you have any tangible sources of recourse if anything does go awry.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If scamming is their goal since the beginning then no matter how hard they built their reputation, they will push on their purpose to scam.

It will be easy for them to make scams if they will able to get the people's trust even it will take years to process. They will think they can scam more and attract more people to the site so they will continue to operate until decided to now execute their exit scam.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on June 28, 2021, 05:18:26 PM

A company looses value if they get involved in a scam activities or trying to scam her clients, I don't like a company that have already had that bad tag of scam with their name, no matter how the company might have pretended to be nice again, a scammer remains a scammer no matter how much those company might have had. No matter the amount of ROI a gambling platform is generating, if they aren't scamming their clients, they are good enough to be successful in the future because of their gradual fulfilling of promise which made them be trustable by many.

It's hard to attain back the reputation once a company had already made their wrong decision and got a bad track record.

That's so true that people might trust them again but not wholly and not everyone who used to gamble onto their platform might go back but not all of those that have gambled there.

There's already a trust issue if a casino did something wrong and didn't resolved the issue asap.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 25, 2021, 04:38:27 AM

Anyway a company with good reputation may not do this since they already on the top of the list so they can keep making money ebery year and also their company will grow bigger.

A company looses value if they get involved in a scam activities or trying to scam her clients, I don't like a company that have already had that bad tag of scam with their name, no matter how the company might have pretended to be nice again, a scammer remains a scammer no matter how much those company might have had. No matter the amount of ROI a gambling platform is generating, if they aren't scamming their clients, they are good enough to be successful in the future because of their gradual fulfilling of promise which made them be trustable by many.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

That's right. And if they are a serious project, they will really do it seriously with all their struggle and professionalism. We may know how difficult and hard it will be moreover if they're new to the certain work world. The reputation and trust of the users is number one.

Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them?

I am not sure that if they are serious from the beginning and also not a scam platform they will scam their users. I am sure that there is some disatisfaction from any users to the platform and then accuse it as a scammer platform. Sometimes, it is only about misunderstanding, an error system, or even something that is not under the control of the platform itself. Or, they break the T&C of the platform.
Because I am not sure that they will really bet their reputation only because of one user.
Except that most users also get bad reviews about the platform, it means something wrong with the platform.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on June 28, 2021, 06:38:35 AM

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Reputation can be viewed from a different perspective, if you see an exit scam from a gambling platform you will know but when the case Is that of an individual calling out a site for scamming him/her then one need to do some verification because some of this scam accusations come from people who are paid to tarnish the image of the competitor.

I like to disagree with that because most exit scams are getting craftier everyday and they are getting more likely to get away because they look legitimate at first glance. Reputation is a thing that we should care for the most because once tainted, it will stick with you for a long time.

Reputation is something that could be built overnight and its true that once it would be tainted then that would really remain forever but if you businessowner would really be doing your best on giving out best service to outweight those previous issues then it could be done.

Peoeple wouldnt really care about those issues anymore if you had continued on giving the good service towards the public but of course there would be always criticisms neither intentional or not.

This is something that cant really be built up easily and when you are into this business then be prepared about those false issues made out by other competitors which i do considered normal or been typical.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

It might be because the sum involved is just too big and the casino cannot resist scamming the user. A lot of sites are doing selective scams where they will pay small players and scam the big odd one to keep their scam selective and deceptive.

Everywhere all positive things are too harder to achieve whereas negative things could be attained in matter of seconds itself. I have seen many crypto places building their reputations for years but just after a hack they lose everything and may go bankrupted due to out of controllable things.

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Reputation can be viewed from a different perspective, if you see an exit scam from a gambling platform you will know but when the case Is that of an individual calling out a site for scamming him/her then one need to do some verification because some of this scam accusations come from people who are paid to tarnish the image of the competitor.

The one you are promoting is actually a scam and I feel bad that you are promoting it, anyways.

A lot of times gambling house are not wrong but it is the user who tried to cheat the house and when caught, they play the victim card and the community would get raged after listening to one side of the story and sometimes the house is too busy to even respond to the complaint and people will believe the house cheated the player.

I have seen multiple instances where users found a glitch and tried to exploit it, how the house deals with the situation can define their trustworthiness then. I recall a website luckygames caught a player cheating and decided to counterattack by cheating the player back instead of putting a hold on his account.

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It will be stupid for a casino to scam if they have got a good reputation as well as number of so many gamblers who visit them daily and play with a considerable amount of money. Losing their reputation in a few seconds for some money (if seen collectively what they earned till that time) would be like hammering their own head because they will not only lose their present customers, but will also lose their future customers who would have played and lost there big making huge gains to the casino.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

A casino that is well built and has a good reputation will hardly do a scam exit or make a stupid decision scamming their customers. There are times that a good reputation casino face accusations from their customers and that kind of casino are facing that accusation bravely by pointing out its point regarding the issue. There are some accusations and debates between the victim and the casino in this forum and most of the time if the casino loses that discussion, They are doing the right thing and solve the issue.

Those accusations that are made to just degrade or take advantage of the casino won't be valid if they don't have enough proof to justify their claim.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on June 28, 2021, 06:38:35 AM

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Reputation can be viewed from a different perspective, if you see an exit scam from a gambling platform you will know but when the case Is that of an individual calling out a site for scamming him/her then one need to do some verification because some of this scam accusations come from people who are paid to tarnish the image of the competitor.

I like to disagree with that because most exit scams are getting craftier everyday and they are getting more likely to get away because they look legitimate at first glance. Reputation is a thing that we should care for the most because once tainted, it will stick with you for a long time.

Scammers don't care about their reputation anymore, they seems to be a legit project at first but their main goal happen when they gain the trust of the public, and that the start of suspicious transactions. Reputation is working good to those who are serious on doing business on this market, but if they are not I don't think people will use that gambling site though it's hard to see a scam project at first.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on June 28, 2021, 06:38:35 AM

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Reputation can be viewed from a different perspective, if you see an exit scam from a gambling platform you will know but when the case Is that of an individual calling out a site for scamming him/her then one need to do some verification because some of this scam accusations come from people who are paid to tarnish the image of the competitor.

I like to disagree with that because most exit scams are getting craftier everyday and they are getting more likely to get away because they look legitimate at first glance. Reputation is a thing that we should care for the most because once tainted, it will stick with you for a long time.

We must be strict in determining scams, if there are already reports as well occurs problem when using that casino we must not tolerate or continue it especially if we have too much money in that casino. Better to only limit gambling. Those legit casinos who'd already built their reputation will not do anything in small amount of money so as long as you play with limited money everything can be fine.

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Reputation can be viewed from a different perspective, if you see an exit scam from a gambling platform you will know but when the case Is that of an individual calling out a site for scamming him/her then one need to do some verification because some of this scam accusations come from people who are paid to tarnish the image of the competitor.

I like to disagree with that because most exit scams are getting craftier everyday and they are getting more likely to get away because they look legitimate at first glance. Reputation is a thing that we should care for the most because once tainted, it will stick with you for a long time.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 28, 2021, 12:46:36 AM

Only small casinos will do that, but big online casinos will always resolve whatever complaints that come out, they have big profit to be made and will make if they have a good reputation than scamming people, a good gambling casino has a good support system and they have a very active channel to address all the issues, they never let even one complaint to go viral, they will stop it and they see to it that they are fair on all their dealing with their players.

It's still possible for big casinos to scam but those cases are very rare and for small casinos it's the last thing you want to do if you plan on having a successful casino knowing that most gamblers stick to reputable casinos. Imo most casinos doesn't want to ruin their reputation but at the same time it's inevitable as there are gamblers that always break their rules.

Quote from: blockman on June 28, 2021, 03:58:16 AM

Sometimes those people that have lost a lot are blaming the casino and calling them a scam despite being not a scam. The problem starts with them that they cannot accept whatever amount their losses have. And instead of blaming themselves, they're putting all their anguish into the casino where they've gambled, and that makes them a total nag to the casino that they've gambled with.

It's not that hard to disregard those type of people since we've seen so many people do this before and eventually they'll move on.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 25, 2021, 03:26:35 AM

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business, what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

Most of the time they have long planning to scam people when they have allocated the sufficient funds to leave.For this they can easily spend quite a money on promotional activities to attract the customer and behave in normal and legit manner so players have trust on them and deposit funds with them.I have seen some of the casinos operating with license also and in the end turn out to be scam and phisshy ones.So we can't say that why would they do it the simple answer to it is money for which they have setup the whole thing damn thing.

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