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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 08, 2023, 04:26:59 PM

I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

where did you see that? I see the opposite thing than you. All of roma fans are putting their respects on mourinho and none of them were blaming mourinho. they do know that if mourinho was able giving the best for roma even though this club was poor enugh at this moment. Mourinho didn't get what he wants and he was still happy. Mounrinho brings roma to the two european final in two season. That's why all of roma fans are willing to see mourinho to stay even longer rather than seeing him to leave from the club.
it's caused by all of as roma fans knew how big the impact from mourinho. Roma was never entering into the final but mourinho was changing it. Roma performed so good when mourinho come to the roma.
It's changing the structure in the team to be even better. I expect performance from roma will be mediocre again without him.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 08, 2023, 04:37:19 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 08, 2023, 04:26:59 PM

I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

That is just stupid. Mourinho gaved them a first european title in the history of the club then another final the next year and they cant blame a coach that might be the best one in their history. They lost the final pretty unlucky and it could have gone both ways in the end

Let them put the blame on me instead of Mourinho Cheesy

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Mourinho did great work in Roma and took them to Europa finals but the players were unable to win the match due to the fact that they underestimated Sevilla and never put into consideration that the match might last for 120mins. I saw how tired and weak Roma players are in the extra 30mins,but Sevilla were strong and very active in that time. Is it Mourinho that will go and score the penalty for Roma. Instead Roma stained Mourinho unbeaten record in Europa league in the finals. If they are blaming Mourinho,it means that they are not greatful with their performance this season.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 08, 2023, 04:37:19 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 08, 2023, 04:26:59 PM

I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

That is just stupid. Mourinho gaved them a first european title in the history of the club then another final the next year and they cant blame a coach that might be the best one in their history. They lost the final pretty unlucky and it could have gone both ways in the end

Honestly I read your post and thought how is it possible that Roma has never won anything in the European competitions and checked it but you are right. If someone asked me whether they have ever won anything their club history, I would have said yes for sure. They are somehow such a big name that I guess many would assume they must have won something before even when it is two or three decades ago. The Conference League was a first "big" success for them, but I don't expect them to make it much further than this in the coming seasons. Given what the line-up looked like this season in the Europa League, not many would have expected to see Roma play for the title.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 08, 2023, 04:26:59 PM

I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

That is just stupid. Mourinho gaved them a first european title in the history of the club then another final the next year and they cant blame a coach that might be the best one in their history. They lost the final pretty unlucky and it could have gone both ways in the end

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 08, 2023, 04:26:59 PM

I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

Compared to the previous season now it looks like they are different because this is not like last season although there are certainly some supporters who did not expect Mou to still be in Rome but others still hope for it especially with the totality of his defense in the Europa League final and even having to argue with the referee to this day shows that he is in full totality in Rome.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 08, 2023, 12:38:22 PM

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Actually, Serie A teams has chance for playing one more slot to Champion League and Europe League, but failure from AS Roma and Fiorentina made both teams failed to play in Champion League and Europe League next season, actually for Fiorentina after losing over West Ham last night made their opportunity close for paying in Europe League.

This shows that this season's Serie A team is not quite ready to win the European title. Roma and Fiorentina have failed but Inter are the last team likely to fail as Manchester City are the toughest opponents in the Champions League.

I didn't expect too much from Inter in the Champions League final. They are not the favorites to win it and of course expecting Inter to win the title would only be very disappointing. But we can't say for sure if Manchester City will actually do it, it's sure to be an interesting wait for them. Low probability is one of the reasons why I favor Manchester City, so that's not going to change.

It's actually disappointing for Italian football fans after watching their two clubs lose in the already played two European finals of the season. The defeats from both teams has denied Italian clubs from having more slots in both the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League competitions.
Roma on their own final were the better and deserved to win the Europa League but unfortunately for them they lost on penalties to a luckier team. There's still another Italian team in the an European final that's not been played yet, they might bail the cat for Italian football

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I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 08, 2023, 04:20:10 PM

Quote from: emrecemsan on June 08, 2023, 03:35:48 PM

........ But all these news started to make me think about the possibility of him joining PSG forces.

Of course there is no guarantee like he will win so many titles when he arrives at PSG. But technically it is a bigger probability compared to Roma. Because things don't work very well so far with Roma as this is another season without a Champions League ticket or a title.

Indeed, this news exists, rumors say that Mou is also being watched by PSG in the coming season. But Mou still has not confirmed these rumors. There is a possibility that Mou will move on from Roma, but again, this has not been confirmed. On the other hand, there are several other rumors that say that PSG are also eyeing Nagelsmann, Conte, Enrique.

I think we still have to wait about this because indeed the media likes to fry things like this so that every news that is available becomes more complicated and branching which makes this a maze and the best way is to wait to see how it goes.
Even though it was like that with the condition Mou and his fans are starting to get along now after in the first season many were dissatisfied with Mou's leadership in Rome I think this could also be a consideration for him to stay only it's just that the final decision is in the hands of Mou and the top officials of Rome so indeed it only remains to see the time that speaks now.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 08, 2023, 03:35:48 PM

........ But all these news started to make me think about the possibility of him joining PSG forces.

Of course there is no guarantee like he will win so many titles when he arrives at PSG. But technically it is a bigger probability compared to Roma. Because things don't work very well so far with Roma as this is another season without a Champions League ticket or a title.

Indeed, this news exists, rumors say that Mou is also being watched by PSG in the coming season. But Mou still has not confirmed these rumors. There is a possibility that Mou will move on from Roma, but again, this has not been confirmed. On the other hand, there are several other rumors that say that PSG are also eyeing Nagelsmann, Conte, Enrique.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 06, 2023, 07:18:17 AM

Quote from: emrecemsan on June 06, 2023, 07:03:22 AM

I think Mourinho is going to be very likely to leave the team now. He seems ready for an offer from PSG already as it has been on the news for a long time.

I don't read any news with information that Mourinho told Roma that he is in deal with PSG and want to leave the club. Around the UEFA Europa League final match, Mourinho said that he has nothing to hide and he was not in contact with any club. If he has such conversation, he will let Roma know like what he did in January this year, after World Cup 2022.

https://www.goal.com/en/news/jose-mourinho-cryptic-message-future-psg-links-roma-lose-europa-league-final/blt35dfcce3480bf623

I have read this news on Goal.com and you can check it as well if you would like. He says like he will make Roma board informed about a probable offer when it comes. But of course he isn't like he is targeting to leave the team no matter what. He just leaves the door open for sensible offers from big teams like PSG. You know PSG have also been linked with him for a while on some news sources. But all these news started to make me think about the possibility of him joining PSG forces.

Of course there is no guarantee like he will win so many titles when he arrives at PSG. But technically it is a bigger probability compared to Roma. Because things don't work very well so far with Roma as this is another season without a Champions League ticket or a title.

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Quote from: kamvreto on June 08, 2023, 12:04:56 PM

Mourinho is a coach who really became a hero for AS Roma.
Jose Mourinho is also very loved by As Roma fans and vice versa. In the match against Spezia with a score of 2-1, Jose Mourinho made a celebration that made the fans look excited by going down to the field and greeting the fans after the game. Then he gave a gesture that he would stay at the Olimpico
Then he gave a gesture that he would stay at the Olimpico and would stay at AS Roma and negotiations on extending his contract which would be completed in June 2024.

With Mou's totality in the last final, even though they failed, it seems like this has succeeded in giving extraordinary sympathy because indeed he is now supported by fans from Rome, because before that we knew that he had problems with some of the fans and last season, if I'm not mistaken, he was expected to leave by the fans. fan because of Rome's condition. But now it looks like this has changed and Mou can now continue his career at the club for next season.

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Quote from: borovichok on June 08, 2023, 02:17:35 PM

Quote from: Oneandpure on June 08, 2023, 11:12:13 AM

Can't compete in domestic league for finish on top fourth standings placed without have star player, I think AS Roma's management should give much money for Jose Mourinho signing new player for next season or possibility for Mourinho accepted PSG offering. Have rumor about Galtier not extend for PSG manager next season and chance for Jose Mourinho for replacing Galtier position.

AS Roma's level has improved over the years, and their fame is largely due to Jose Mourinho, a football genius. Mourinho has yet to reveal his future plans to the public, but this is football, and any possible transfer may happen at any time, as we have seen this season. The board must offer sufficient funds for Mourinho for the purpose for him to buy more potential players during the transfer window; the club requires fresh players in addition to compete with the previous players. PSG is looking for an experienced coach, and Mourinho is on the list, as is Zinedine Zidane, but he declines the offers, which means the Parisians can count on Mourinho.

Mourinho will not leave Roma this season even Mourinho is currently in hunting new players, besides that PSG has crossed out Mourinho from the list which means it will strengthen Mourinho's position with Roma, the latest news is Mourinho Interested in bringing in Leicester City players Youri Tielemans. Roma clearly needs new players to get a better place in the standings and in the European League, oh yeah Mauro Icardi is also on the list of Roma offers they have prepared 8 million to bring him.

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Quote from: borovichok on June 08, 2023, 02:17:35 PM

Quote from: Oneandpure on June 08, 2023, 11:12:13 AM

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AS Roma's level has improved over the years, and their fame is largely due to Jose Mourinho, a football genius. Mourinho has yet to reveal his future plans to the public, but this is football, and any possible transfer may happen at any time, as we have seen this season. The board must offer sufficient funds for Mourinho for the purpose for him to buy more potential players during the transfer window; the club requires fresh players in addition to compete with the previous players. PSG is looking for an experienced coach, and Mourinho is on the list, as is Zinedine Zidane, but he declines the offers, which means the Parisians can count on Mourinho.

As far as I know PSG have not spoken directly with Zidane regarding plans to find a new coach. I read it on twitter and somehow I missed the reference. Mourinho is good but I'm not sure if PSG really want to take him as a coach but of course I will support him to be in Paris to do a great job.

PSG are looking for a coach with great experience and a winning mentality in Europe. Mourinho is one of them, but several other names such as Luis Enrique, Julian Nagelsman, Ernesto Valverde, and several other big names are worth approaching. I believe the two former Barcelona coaches are suitable for PSG, but it just depends on how the team treats them.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on June 08, 2023, 11:12:13 AM

Can't compete in domestic league for finish on top fourth standings placed without have star player, I think AS Roma's management should give much money for Jose Mourinho signing new player for next season or possibility for Mourinho accepted PSG offering. Have rumor about Galtier not extend for PSG manager next season and chance for Jose Mourinho for replacing Galtier position.

AS Roma's level has improved over the years, and their fame is largely due to Jose Mourinho, a football genius. Mourinho has yet to reveal his future plans to the public, but this is football, and any possible transfer may happen at any time, as we have seen this season. The board must offer sufficient funds for Mourinho for the purpose for him to buy more potential players during the transfer window; the club requires fresh players in addition to compete with the previous players. PSG is looking for an experienced coach, and Mourinho is on the list, as is Zinedine Zidane, but he declines the offers, which means the Parisians can count on Mourinho.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 08, 2023, 12:38:22 PM

Quote from: Bobrox on June 07, 2023, 10:49:26 PM

Actually, Serie A teams has chance for playing one more slot to Champion League and Europe League, but failure from AS Roma and Fiorentina made both teams failed to play in Champion League and Europe League next season, actually for Fiorentina after losing over West Ham last night made their opportunity close for paying in Europe League.

This shows that this season's Serie A team is not quite ready to win the European title. Roma and Fiorentina have failed but Inter are the last team likely to fail as Manchester City are the toughest opponents in the Champions League.

I didn't expect too much from Inter in the Champions League final. They are not the favorites to win it and of course expecting Inter to win the title would only be very disappointing. But we can't say for sure if Manchester City will actually do it, it's sure to be an interesting wait for them. Low probability is one of the reasons why I favor Manchester City, so that's not going to change.

Teams from Serie A in the season that just ended have often lost their consistency in maintaining their best performance. So that both in Serie A or in the European League and in other competitions will certainly be the same. that is, they still cannot maintain the quality of the game consistently.

The only hope at this time is that Inter Milan is the representative from Serie A to fight for the Champions League title against Man City. But Inter Milan's chances of winning are very slim and it's only natural that not many people hope for Inter Milan.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on June 08, 2023, 08:37:21 AM

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Building a strong team must cost money. A team can never be made strong and beautiful without spending money. And yes in this case 'Roma' is not at all interested in spending any money on the team due to which Roma cannot win the title despite being very strong. I think next season Roma need to strengthen the squad to win the title. And they must bring in stars to strengthen this squat. If Roma can bring in stars and strengthen the management then surely they can win the title next season.

But costing a lot of money will not give you guarantee if your team will be as good as you have planned before. Let's take a look at what already done by chelsea. Chelsea has spent a half of billion USD and it was placing at the bottom.
Mourinho has proven even with cheap squads and he was able bringing roma to the european final two times. The main requirement to build a proper team through building the chemistry between the players.

The good team is always having good chemistry no matter how many supers stars in the club. A good club is not always costing a lot of money.
Sometime the club needs to find a good players by buying it from another club but it's not always working properly. Roma didn't have money to sign the new players.
I remember when the owner of roma was giving only less than 8 millions to sign the new players which is very small.
That's why mourintho was not buying expensive players in the winter transfer season.

Usually money can buy you some quality, but as you said you don't have a guarantee that when you buy the 11 most expensive players that you also immediately have the best team in the world. I also think that one big problem is overpaying for quite some time now. I am sure you guys remember some of the numbers that have been paid in the past and you probably thought that the price isn't justified. I have had the feeling a couple of times and even Neymar has never been worth 222 million when he went to PSG. The price is really misleading in many respects but the clubs know that there is so much money in the industry that they can charge it.

Two examples, Kroos cost 25 million when he went to Real Madrid and Modric cost 30 million when he went to Real Madrid. How is that even possible when players like Dembele and Bellingham now cost 150 and 130 million, respectively? Are they 5 times better than Kroos and Modric? I know Dembele is a winger, but there are definitely examples that would also stand the test with a winger.

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Quote from: BALIK on June 08, 2023, 12:42:23 PM

Quote from: masulum on June 08, 2023, 12:07:24 PM

Quote from: Oneandpure on June 08, 2023, 11:12:13 AM

Can't compete in domestic league for finish on top fourth standings placed without have star player, I think AS Roma's management should give much money for Jose Mourinho signing new player for next season or possibility for Mourinho accepted PSG offering. Have rumor about Galtier not extend for PSG manager next season and chance for Jose Mourinho for replacing Galtier position.

I don't think AS Roma can give more money to Mourinho. In quite a long time they couldn't win the title and only last season with confederence cup title. This season they reach the UEL final, but that may not be enough to make the Roma board give extra money to spend on players. Maybe if for 2 - 3 new players, I think it's still possible for Roma, while Mourinho must be able to find players who are cheap but in accordance with the character of his strategy

Roma is probably among the top 5 clubs in Serie A when market value is considered. But the Roma management is not keen on spending a lot of money to build up their squad. Because they know very well that they will not win the title. The team doesn't even compete for the title. However, if the Roma management provides Mourinho with sufficient funds, Mourinho will surely build a squad capable of challenging for the title. Now we are waiting to see what decision Roma management takes.

We should first see if Mourinho will continue to stay at Roma also for the next year, he is ambitious and wants to win, and delusion about the lose of Europa League was really big. About Roma management, they doesn't have

many funds to spend for new players, so, they will try to buy some good talent and enforce some zone that needs to be enforced.

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Quote from: masulum on June 08, 2023, 12:07:24 PM

Quote from: Oneandpure on June 08, 2023, 11:12:13 AM

Can't compete in domestic league for finish on top fourth standings placed without have star player, I think AS Roma's management should give much money for Jose Mourinho signing new player for next season or possibility for Mourinho accepted PSG offering. Have rumor about Galtier not extend for PSG manager next season and chance for Jose Mourinho for replacing Galtier position.

I don't think AS Roma can give more money to Mourinho. In quite a long time they couldn't win the title and only last season with confederence cup title. This season they reach the UEL final, but that may not be enough to make the Roma board give extra money to spend on players. Maybe if for 2 - 3 new players, I think it's still possible for Roma, while Mourinho must be able to find players who are cheap but in accordance with the character of his strategy

Roma is probably among the top 5 clubs in Serie A when market value is considered. But the Roma management is not keen on spending a lot of money to build up their squad. Because they know very well that they will not win the title. The team doesn't even compete for the title. However, if the Roma management provides Mourinho with sufficient funds, Mourinho will surely build a squad capable of challenging for the title. Now we are waiting to see what decision Roma management takes.

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Quote from: Bobrox on June 07, 2023, 10:49:26 PM

Actually, Serie A teams has chance for playing one more slot to Champion League and Europe League, but failure from AS Roma and Fiorentina made both teams failed to play in Champion League and Europe League next season, actually for Fiorentina after losing over West Ham last night made their opportunity close for paying in Europe League.

This shows that this season's Serie A team is not quite ready to win the European title. Roma and Fiorentina have failed but Inter are the last team likely to fail as Manchester City are the toughest opponents in the Champions League.

I didn't expect too much from Inter in the Champions League final. They are not the favorites to win it and of course expecting Inter to win the title would only be very disappointing. But we can't say for sure if Manchester City will actually do it, it's sure to be an interesting wait for them. Low probability is one of the reasons why I favor Manchester City, so that's not going to change.

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