Topic: Japanese man gambled away a huge Covid-19 relief funds mistakenly sent to him - page 7. (Read 1454 times)
June 21, 2022, 01:37:23 AM
Of course, it is not a crime that the money came to the man by mistake. But I think it is a crime to spend money from someone else as if it was his own money. It is forgivable if he realizes the mistake and sends the money again. Maybe he shouldn't have spent the money on gambling at all. Is there an addiction?
June 20, 2022, 10:57:24 AM
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He's not a criminal but he probably plays a lot of gambling which makes him use up all the money in his account while we don't know if he's a gambling addict or not. He already has the intention to return all his money and this deserves appreciation because he realized his mistake. The bank itself needs to investigate this case because it stems from the fault of the bank employee. Everything has happened and I hope he is fine and there are no cases of wrong transfers from the bank. June 20, 2022, 06:36:58 AM
The person who mistakenly sent the money to his bank account has some answering to do as well, but I don't think the fault is really on him. It was negligence on his part and he could suffer a punishment for it. Perhaps he'd be issued a memo or an admonition, suspension at most. If it was an honest mistake, he could even be excused from it.
But the fault really was on the man who spent the money even if it is not his. He should have exerted a little effort and tried to inquire where the money came from and sent it back. Not only did he not do it, he even spent it on gambling. It's really his fault.
But the fault really was on the man who spent the money even if it is not his. He should have exerted a little effort and tried to inquire where the money came from and sent it back. Not only did he not do it, he even spent it on gambling. It's really his fault.
June 20, 2022, 06:19:52 AM
This person shouldn't have done this, because he himself knew well it is not his money. He hasn't won any jackpot or something like that. All are people's money, we don't know how many families are suffering just because they hadn't received the funds on time. Anyhow this has happened, now it is time for the banking authority to just make way for all the beneficiaries to receive the funds.
This man might be a gamble addict or a criminal. I said he might be a gamble addict because he used the the entire money on gambling. He never thought of investing the money or using it for other expenses but gambling was his option. He might be a criminal because he understood that the fund was for persons that Covid-19 pandemic has affected negatively. If he was a law-abiding citizen he would have reported to the government or the agencies concerned because the fund is not his. But because of his criminal mindset, he decided to steal the money. Its a shame that sincere and trusted people are becoming few in our society. I am sure that many people would do the same thing this man did. 
June 20, 2022, 06:06:06 AM
In my country, there are many types of fraud with "erroneous" transfers, and those who know about it, having received incomprehensible money into their account, simply go to the bank and write a statement that this money must be removed from their account as it is a transfer of unknown origin. This man should have done the same, but he committed a crime and will now be punished - I do not see anything sad in this.
I think the steps you have given are correct for SOPs in all countries but if you look at the case, those who have this money made a mistake in transferring it to the victim's wallet, what I know when something goes into our wallet, it belongs to us. us, so I'm assuming the victim who went to jail didn't do anything wrong because he used the money that was in the wallet he had. So, if the police there have determined you are guilty, then just follow the rules.It's a big mistake to think so. An error is an error and it does not lead to a change in the legal status of tangible assets. I think if you dig deep, in a legal sense, your bank account is very different from your physical wallet, and the fact that an erroneous transaction occurred does not negate the fact that it was not his money.
June 20, 2022, 01:30:03 AM
This person shouldn't have done this, because he himself knew well it is not his money. He hasn't won any jackpot or something like that. All are people's money, we don't know how many families are suffering just because they hadn't received the funds on time. Anyhow this has happened, now it is time for the banking authority to just make way for all the beneficiaries to receive the funds.
This man might be a gamble addict or a criminal. I said he might be a gamble addict because he used the the entire money on gambling. He never thought of investing the money or using it for other expenses but gambling was his option. He might be a criminal because he understood that the fund was for persons that Covid-19 pandemic has affected negatively. If he was a law-abiding citizen he would have reported to the government or the agencies concerned because the fund is not his. But because of his criminal mindset, he decided to steal the money. Its a shame that sincere and trusted people are becoming few in our society. I am sure that many people would do the same thing this man did. June 19, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
This person shouldn't have done this, because he himself knew well it is not his money. He hasn't won any jackpot or something like that. All are people's money, we don't know how many families are suffering just because they hadn't received the funds on time. Anyhow this has happened, now it is time for the banking authority to just make way for all the beneficiaries to receive the funds.
Logically speaking, it isn't the bank who should take liable here, they just process the request.
Both the sender and the receiver are the one who should shoulder the liabilities in this kind of situation, especially the receiver
who gambled the money.
He already taking care of his mistake and I guess it should be a good lesson for him and for the rest of the people who learned
about this case, they should be more responsible for responding and acting when the situation happens to them.
June 19, 2022, 07:57:31 PM
This person shouldn't have done this, because he himself knew well it is not his money. He hasn't won any jackpot or something like that. All are people's money, we don't know how many families are suffering just because they hadn't received the funds on time. Anyhow this has happened, now it is time for the banking authority to just make way for all the beneficiaries to receive the funds.
June 19, 2022, 07:30:45 PM
Considering that he lost this money gradually, it will be difficult for him to claim that he did it under the influence of emotions or that he did not have time to figure out that it was not his money. Apparently, in addition to compensation for material damage, he will face prosecution and a prison term (however, I heard about the humaneness of the Japanese justice system, perhaps the punishment will be softer).
I think this is really sad because he used money that was accidentally sent to his wallet but ended up in jail and had to involve a very complicated legal route, it's better if he gets the funds then it's better to let it take longer so that those who make the wrong transfer will think that the wallet they have is not active or has not been used and waits for it to be unused before everything is safe.In my country, there are many types of fraud with "erroneous" transfers, and those who know about it, having received incomprehensible money into their account, simply go to the bank and write a statement that this money must be removed from their account as it is a transfer of unknown origin. This man should have done the same, but he committed a crime and will now be punished - I do not see anything sad in this.
June 19, 2022, 05:36:12 PM
just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.
you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
Of course, the man is entirely at fault because he knows in the first place that he's gambling the money that he did not own. And he even lose it all. If he is just honest and a responsible person, then he should return the huge amount of money to the sender as its clearly sent to him mistakenly. But he did not do what is supposed the right thing to do. He turned out to be greedy instead. But good thing he realized his fault in the end and decides to pay back the huge amount even bit by bit. you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
June 19, 2022, 02:59:43 PM
just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.
you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
whatever he did was a big mistake, he already knew that the funds he got were the result of a wrong send but why did he keep using it to gambleyou can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
both the sender and the recipient must be held responsible for this incident (because this is human error) because the money is the right of the citizens
June 19, 2022, 01:48:17 PM
Considering that he lost this money gradually, it will be difficult for him to claim that he did it under the influence of emotions or that he did not have time to figure out that it was not his money. Apparently, in addition to compensation for material damage, he will face prosecution and a prison term (however, I heard about the humaneness of the Japanese justice system, perhaps the punishment will be softer).
I think this is really sad because he used money that was accidentally sent to his wallet but ended up in jail and had to involve a very complicated legal route, it's better if he gets the funds then it's better to let it take longer so that those who make the wrong transfer will think that the wallet they have is not active or has not been used and waits for it to be unused before everything is safe.In my country, there are many types of fraud with "erroneous" transfers, and those who know about it, having received incomprehensible money into their account, simply go to the bank and write a statement that this money must be removed from their account as it is a transfer of unknown origin. This man should have done the same, but he committed a crime and will now be punished - I do not see anything sad in this.
June 19, 2022, 06:50:36 AM
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
Japan has some strict laws on gambling and its allowed to specific people under specific conditions. You cant gamble openly in Japan like you do in USA or Europe. The man shouldn't have used that money for gambling since in banking system you can easily be traced. So the man was at guilty since he did a crime knowing that he can easily be caught.
June 18, 2022, 11:46:49 PM
Of course the man is obligated to return the money. I don't know what the law is in Japan, but in few countries you cant even take the money you find on the street. In many countries, if you find any money or it falls into your hands in some other way, you must refer it to the authorities. Only if their owner is not found for a year, you can keep them for yourself. In this case, there is no doubt that this man spent not his money and must return it.
Agreed with your arguments. But why no action being taken against the bank? Bankers are the ones who receive the fattest paychecks and how can they make mistakes like this? For such big amounts, don't they need multiple levels of verification? And I am even more surprised that this happened in Japan. That country is well known for work efficiency, and something like this is unheard of. Anyway, the individual in question may go to jail, but I don't think that the bank will get back any of the money (since it is already used up).
I don't really understand why you concluded that it was a mistake of the bankers?
In my opinion, it was a mistake of the person ordering the transfer. Of course, this should not be the case and the consequences should be faced. However, the banking system works differently from blockchain and this difference is the reversibility of transactions and the complete absence of anonymity.
I am not sure if a bank employee or an employee of some other institution that ordered this transaction made a mistake, but do you think the consequences should be borne by any of these two persons?
June 18, 2022, 11:05:06 PM
Of course the man is obligated to return the money. I don't know what the law is in Japan, but in few countries you cant even take the money you find on the street. In many countries, if you find any money or it falls into your hands in some other way, you must refer it to the authorities. Only if their owner is not found for a year, you can keep them for yourself. In this case, there is no doubt that this man spent not his money and must return it.
Agreed with your arguments. But why no action being taken against the bank? Bankers are the ones who receive the fattest paychecks and how can they make mistakes like this? For such big amounts, don't they need multiple levels of verification? And I am even more surprised that this happened in Japan. That country is well known for work efficiency, and something like this is unheard of. Anyway, the individual in question may go to jail, but I don't think that the bank will get back any of the money (since it is already used up).
June 18, 2022, 09:25:49 PM
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
The particular bank mistakenly sent the money to this man's bank account, which means this bank who sent the money is also at fault. They should be careful not to make mistake especially its a huge amount, and why they didnt verify if the receiver is the one who supposed to receive the money? Its also their negligence.On the other side, the man spent the money in gambling. He's aware its not his money so he should coordinate to the bank if he has the conscience because its not his own. Thats the consequence of his action thus its just right for him to pay it back and face the lawsuit.
June 18, 2022, 07:32:53 PM
just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.
you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436
now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
Of course the man is obligated to return the money. I don't know what the law is in Japan, but in few countries you cant even take the money you find on the street. In many countries, if you find any money or it falls into your hands in some other way, you must refer it to the authorities. Only if their owner is not found for a year, you can keep them for yourself. In this case, there is no doubt that this man spent not his money and must return it.
June 18, 2022, 07:31:31 PM
I'm shocked that someone takes money that isn't theirs to go play. But is this story really real? i mean we are talking about japan where the banking system must undoubtedly be better than my country's banking system so how did the person transfer money to the wrong account and the bank took days to return all the money to the right account? because they even knew that the guy used 600,000 a day to gamble and because he must have spent several days taking 600,000 to play and another thing like the bank didn't demand that the guy addicted to games show the origin of the money that was in his account ? this story seems suspicious to me
June 18, 2022, 07:15:24 PM
Considering that he lost this money gradually, it will be difficult for him to claim that he did it under the influence of emotions or that he did not have time to figure out that it was not his money. Apparently, in addition to compensation for material damage, he will face prosecution and a prison term (however, I heard about the humaneness of the Japanese justice system, perhaps the punishment will be softer).
I think this is really sad because he used money that was accidentally sent to his wallet but ended up in jail and had to involve a very complicated legal route, it's better if he gets the funds then it's better to let it take longer so that those who make the wrong transfer will think that the wallet they have is not active or has not been used and waits for it to be unused before everything is safe. 
June 18, 2022, 06:37:25 PM
The banking authorities should've been careful handling such a huge fund. In my view it looks like the person is into gambling addiction and that's the reason why he had used such a big amount in gambling and lost everything within two weeks time. Two Weeks time is something long, the bank should've taken action within few days. There is difference between sending the funds to 436 beneficiaries and to a single account. Anyhow justice needs to be given to the beneficiaries as the person himself have accepted he have used the funds.
That is actually true. Tremendous failure from the bank to have sent the money to the man's account instead of the 463 low-income households. If it were a small and simple mistake, like misunderstanding a number or name that would be understandable, because these things happen really often, but sending 357,400$ into one person's account instead of sharing it among 463 is too much and should be immediately perceived! It would be interesting if the news brought informations about the responsible for the transaction and what he has to say about the fact as well.
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