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Quote from: X-ray on June 30, 2022, 02:19:46 AM

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What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).

The party who has been processing the payment is not making any mistake since the guy must aware if that funds were coming from the somewhere that they didn't know about. The sender can be checked easily through his mobile banking of something else. it doesn't make sense if he didn't aware about that funds.The bank is not making the fault in this case.

Well.. this is surprising. You are saying that the bank didn't made any mistake. Then why the funds were sent to the wrong account? And here in India, it is not possible to find out from which account we have received the money. Only the last 4 digits of the sender account will be visible to the recipient. I am sure that in Japan also, they are having a similar system. What the individual did was wrong. All I am saying that the guilty parties need to be punished without any exception, including the banking staff.

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Money is indeed the world's temptation that can undermine people's belief and trust in being a good person and that person has done it. But then, he had accepted it and had already decided to pay back what he had gambled before. This is a lesson for us not to use money that doesn't belong to us.

It's always been a norm that don't use whatever isn't yours or if it doesn't belong to you. It's a shame if you've been using something like money that don't belong to you and you have left with nothing. As the case of OP, well, there could some other mistakes that might happen in the future and it will depend on them if they'll do the same thing but hopefully, they'll not touch any of it for them to be free from any trouble.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 30, 2022, 12:03:34 PM

Quote from: X-ray on June 30, 2022, 02:19:46 AM

What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him.

I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.

It is almost a steal the money that he does not own and the worst is that man uses the money to gamble and lose it. He did a mistake and need to fix it by returning the money to the bank. But I wonder why the bank employee is not mentioning it as he also did the mistake of sending the money to the wrong account number. But we learned from this case not to use the money that does not belong to us.

Its still considered stealing but not on the sense on completely to be like that since it wasnt been forced but rather it had been gained accidentally but on that ethicality of things then its just understandable

that you would really be giving it back since its not yours which you dont know if those funds is used on something more beneficial or something that could help out or even with just some personal
money then its not really that right on spending on it.If your mentality is somewhat been greedy then you would definitely be doing that same on what that man did.

But of course every action would be having corresponding outcome or results whether positive or negative but this one is obviously negative.Dont expect that you would
be ending up on having no headache once they had been able to traced out and asking for the money to be given back.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 30, 2022, 02:19:46 AM

What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him.

I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.

It is almost a steal the money that he does not own and the worst is that man uses the money to gamble and lose it. He did a mistake and need to fix it by returning the money to the bank. But I wonder why the bank employee is not mentioning it as he also did the mistake of sending the money to the wrong account number. But we learned from this case not to use the money that does not belong to us.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 28, 2022, 10:02:23 PM

Quote from: X-ray on June 28, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).

The party who has been processing the payment is not making any mistake since the guy must aware if that funds were coming from the somewhere that they didn't know about. The sender can be checked easily through his mobile banking of something else. it doesn't make sense if he didn't aware about that funds.The bank is not making the fault in this case.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 28, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

No additional update after the arrest and the willingness of the convicted gambler to pay the amount, I'm more on the side what happen

to the sender if he also being arrested or he just escape and the law accept it as a honest mistake, not sure though if he's part of the possible

crime or it's just the person/gambler who spent the money that will alone suffer from the government law.

What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him.

I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 28, 2022, 10:02:23 PM

Quote from: X-ray on June 28, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).

If the guys does not aware with this sending of funds to him i guess it is not his fault because there's no consciousness of it and the human errors is in the person who sent the funds but we cannot deny that the gambling makes a wrong decision too because it is easier today to trace a transaction with the banks still i guess the burden is in the side of the gambler because he use those funds to play in gambling.

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Quote from: tabas on June 29, 2022, 05:53:48 PM

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The world will surely have many good and bad people because it has become human nature. We can only choose to be good people or bad people. And if we choose to be good people, then we must do good things and vice versa.

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Money is indeed the world's temptation that can undermine people's belief and trust in being a good person and that person has done it. But then, he had accepted it and had already decided to pay back what he had gambled before. This is a lesson for us not to use money that doesn't belong to us.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 29, 2022, 01:04:15 PM

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 14, 2022, 05:32:32 PM

just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.

you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436

now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?

In my opinion, this is his fault entirely, and no one else should be responsible. Money sent to him by mistake is like someone forgot his wallet full of money at your place. Would you start gambling it away?

So, I disagree with those saying, if the money wasn't sent to him there would be no problem. All of us make mistakes, but life would be much easier if others were helping us to correct it, instead of taking advantage of it.

In the case of the person sending that money to his account that was just a mistake, it would be interesting to know why the mistake happened but I do not think heavy consequences should come to that person, however in the case of the gambler that squandered that money without a doubt he committed a crime and he needs to pay for it, not only by repaying the money that he claimed as his own when he knew that was not the case but by spending some time in jail.

You would pay the price on what you had committed since its not your money that you had spent which its really understandable that you would need to pay on what you had used even its an accident on where
those funds do sent into your account.There might be some argumentation but it wont really be that much effective if we do talk about on legal process. You dont have the rights on
spending up money which isnt yours considering that banks could make out reversible transactions then you could always have those kind of complaints and clarifications if you do see
that your account does have big fund on it and boggling on where those funds came from.

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Quote from: ipanks on June 29, 2022, 03:03:16 AM

Quote from: tabas on June 28, 2022, 06:49:02 PM

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At least I still believe that there are honest people who want to return money that doesn't belong to them rather than using it for their own pleasure. Our hearts can feel it if it is not appropriate.

Well, the world still has a lot of good and bad people so whichever you believe, you're right.

Quote from: ipanks on June 29, 2022, 03:03:16 AM

We should try to be responsible for whatever we do and not do anything wrong to avoid creating problems in the future. If we can do that, I believe we can overcome the temptations that will come to us.

The temptation was there and the guy just did what he feel will satisfy him. Now, that he did it. He just need to accept and do the necessary setback of what he decided to do. If it's related to money, there will be those people that can't stop their urge on not touching it especially if they've got something to do that needs money.

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 14, 2022, 05:32:32 PM

just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.

you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436

now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?

In my opinion, this is his fault entirely, and no one else should be responsible. Money sent to him by mistake is like someone forgot his wallet full of money at your place. Would you start gambling it away?

So, I disagree with those saying, if the money wasn't sent to him there would be no problem. All of us make mistakes, but life would be much easier if others were helping us to correct it, instead of taking advantage of it.

In the case of the person sending that money to his account that was just a mistake, it would be interesting to know why the mistake happened but I do not think heavy consequences should come to that person, however in the case of the gambler that squandered that money without a doubt he committed a crime and he needs to pay for it, not only by repaying the money that he claimed as his own when he knew that was not the case but by spending some time in jail.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 28, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

No additional update after the arrest and the willingness of the convicted gambler to pay the amount, I'm more on the side what happen

to the sender if he also being arrested or he just escape and the law accept it as a honest mistake, not sure though if he's part of the possible

crime or it's just the person/gambler who spent the money that will alone suffer from the government law.

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 14, 2022, 05:32:32 PM

just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.

you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436

now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?

In my opinion, this is his fault entirely, and no one else should be responsible. Money sent to him by mistake is like someone forgot his wallet full of money at your place. Would you start gambling it away?

So, I disagree with those saying, if the money wasn't sent to him there would be no problem. All of us make mistakes, but life would be much easier if others were helping us to correct it, instead of taking advantage of it.

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Quote from: tabas on June 28, 2022, 06:49:02 PM

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At least I still believe that there are honest people who want to return money that doesn't belong to them rather than using it for their own pleasure. Our hearts can feel it if it is not appropriate. We should try to be responsible for whatever we do and not do anything wrong to avoid creating problems in the future. If we can do that, I believe we can overcome the temptations that will come to us.

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 14, 2022, 05:32:32 PM

just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.

you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436

now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?

The month who sent the money mistakenly is the one responsible for it not the others. Though, H e really needs to pay for it. Although its a large amount of money(Yen).

The man also obviously the man was guilty of sending money in the wrong place. We don't know the real reason for it. Anyway, it doesn't matter to me.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 28, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 28, 2022, 07:54:57 AM

The fact that he is sued, then there's a ground that he committed a crime.

It was mistakenly sent to his account but he did not tell the bank about that, he himself is aware that the money is not his, so he has to report it to the bank just to be safe. What if for example the amount of money wrongfully sent to his account is link to illegal transactions, and he spent the money, so he might be charge to be connected with the drug transactions, so the morale of the news here is we should be responsible, we should not be greedy.

He was guilty for using money that wasn't his in the first place, I mean his guilty consciousness didn't tell him that you can't just have money out of no where.
This same scenario ones happen to a friend but this was not a palliative, it was mistakenly deposited into his account and he wanted to make a smart move by transferring the amount into his second account so that the banks wouldn't notice since he didn't expect money from anyone and he never sent account details to any person, so literally he wasn't expecting money in the account. He was shocked when the bank visited his family house with a police after series of emails to return the money to the bank which he refused and negative was written on his account meaning he was owning the bank. The money was later return and case was closed.

The man should have question the source of the money but I think was waiting for an opportunity to gamble which the fund acted as catalyst for him.

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The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

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if he gets a severe punishment then I'm sure that person will really give up and will not repeat his stupidity again. other than that, hopefully, the media there spread the news about all of this so that other people don't do the same thing he did if they just got "wrong money sent" like this.

Well, if it's already watched on the media.

Many will not do this mistake and that's for the both side, the gambler and the sender who mistakenly sent the money. They've got some moral values and issues that they're taking as pride.

But it looks like not all of them are into it.

Well the Japanese man had made a silly mistake to have spent all the relief fund on gambling without having remaining money he can pay back to the government. I can see that this is as a result of gambling addiction. He had been so addicted to gambling that is why he had to lavish all the relief fund on gambling without having any profit he can boast of. We need to be very careful when it comes to gambling activities cause things can go wrong anytime.

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Quote from: ipanks on June 28, 2022, 07:12:53 AM

At least he was a man who took responsibility for what he did and was trying to get back the money he had gambled on.

If he's willing then that's good for both sides.

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Quote from: tabas on June 27, 2022, 06:04:37 PM

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Indeed it is a severe temptation for him, maybe for all of us, if we see, there is so much money in our bank accounts that we want to use it. He's made a mistake and hopefully, others who have criticized him can forgive him because, after all, everyone makes mistakes.

Yes, tempt is there and we all have probably done the same thing but also don't ignore that there are those gamblers that won't really spent money that isn't for them. Well, we can act on it accordingly and will really depend on what we feel by that time but just do the right thing or else take responsibility for whatever choice you make.

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Quote from: agustina2 on June 27, 2022, 06:49:40 PM

So things are that easy? Just return the money and he's now a good man? If that settles all problems, it's now easy to do illegal things.

That man should face the consequences regardless if he will return the money or not. No excuses, no bullshits, no attachment involved.

He enjoyed using the money disregarding what will be the consequences of it. That guy should learn his lesson.

I agree. Punishment should be a signal that such actions will not be repeated in the future (for this person or for someone else). If you allow the thief to return the stolen and no longer experience any consequences, then stealing will become extremely profitable - because in the worst case, you can return the stolen and become a "good person" again and then try to steal again. This is absurd.

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