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legendary
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The fact that he is sued, then there's a ground that he committed a crime.

It was mistakenly sent to his account but he did not tell the bank about that, he himself is aware that the money is not his, so he has to report it to the bank just to be safe. What if for example the amount of money wrongfully sent to his account is link to illegal transactions, and he spent the money, so he might be charge to be connected with the drug transactions, so the morale of the news here is we should be responsible, we should not be greedy.
We cannot judge it only on one side because the initial error occurred because of the negligence of the employee who sent the wrong money, while every employee must have great accuracy and responsibility. So in this case, in my view both are wrong and both can be sued until finally an agreement in the form of kinship by returning the money that has been used is the best way. Because it can't be if only one of them is sued, because the people who received the money and have used it have said they are willing to return it, so in this case there is no longer anything to sue because they admit each other's guilt.
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The fact that he is sued, then there's a ground that he committed a crime.

It was mistakenly sent to his account but he did not tell the bank about that, he himself is aware that the money is not his, so he has to report it to the bank just to be safe. What if for example the amount of money wrongfully sent to his account is link to illegal transactions, and he spent the money, so he might be charge to be connected with the drug transactions, so the morale of the news here is we should be responsible, we should not be greedy.
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At least he was a man who took responsibility for what he did and was trying to get back the money he had gambled on. Indeed it is a severe temptation for him, maybe for all of us, if we see, there is so much money in our bank accounts that we want to use it. He's made a mistake and hopefully, others who have criticized him can forgive him because, after all, everyone makes mistakes.
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He enjoyed using the money disregarding what will be the consequences of it. That guy should learn his lesson.
Indeed. Its a huge amount accidentally sent to his bank account, he's aware its not his money but still use it to gamble as if its his own. Instead of coordinating to the bank he gambled it away.

Now, even he return the money, it doesnt mean he's a good guy. Its his responsibility and he should face the consequence of his action.
legendary
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He's a good man after all if he wants to pay back the money he gambled away.

HO many of you would in all honesty give back so much money if you got it by mistake. It's easy to say it now and criticize the guy because you are not in his shoes. We all criticize people who made mistakes, but once in a while we do the same thing and become the victims of hate

So things are that easy? Just return the money and he's now a good man? If that settles all problems, it's now easy to do illegal things.

That man should face the consequences regardless if he will return the money or not. No excuses, no bullshits, no attachment involved.

He enjoyed using the money disregarding what will be the consequences of it. That guy should learn his lesson.
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He's a good man after all if he wants to pay back the money he gambled away.

HO many of you would in all honesty give back so much money if you got it by mistake. It's easy to say it now and criticize the guy because you are not in his shoes. We all criticize people who made mistakes, but once in a while we do the same thing and become the victims of hate
I agree, if the guy is willing to pay for what he has spent, he should do it. But with his actions, can't also stop people from criticizing what he has done.
After all, he won't notice all of us here telling good and bad things of what he has done and what he's about to do to retrieve himself.
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He's a good man after all if he wants to pay back the money he gambled away.

HO many of you would in all honesty give back so much money if you got it by mistake. It's easy to say it now and criticize the guy because you are not in his shoes. We all criticize people who made mistakes, but once in a while we do the same thing and become the victims of hate
You arent honest on the first place if you do spent out money or funds which isnt owned by you and if someone who had been caught and sued out then its a common or normal reaction for someone to say that he would

return those funds because if not then he do know on what are the consequences which had been waiting to be filed against him.So i dont really believe about being a good man yet spending money which isnt yours
isnt really something a good move on any angle i do tend to watch on.

We know that the source does have that mistake but its just understandable that it isnt yours which it is really just right for it to be given back into the right owner and also
consider those funds are for relief or support which you dont really have that conscience on spending it for you leisure time. lol

Exactly my thoughts. It's always funny to read about criminals who repent after being caught  Grin But apparently someone believes in it if such comments are made. And in general I do not like the concept that a person is good if he corrected his mistakes. Thus, the life of those who initially lived honestly and did not make any "mistakes" that later required correction is depreciated.
legendary
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He's a good man after all if he wants to pay back the money he gambled away.

HO many of you would in all honesty give back so much money if you got it by mistake. It's easy to say it now and criticize the guy because you are not in his shoes. We all criticize people who made mistakes, but once in a while we do the same thing and become the victims of hate
You arent honest on the first place if you do spent out money or funds which isnt owned by you and if someone who had been caught and sued out then its a common or normal reaction for someone to say that he would

return those funds because if not then he do know on what are the consequences which had been waiting to be filed against him.So i dont really believe about being a good man yet spending money which isnt yours
isnt really something a good move on any angle i do tend to watch on.

We know that the source does have that mistake but its just understandable that it isnt yours which it is really just right for it to be given back into the right owner and also
consider those funds are for relief or support which you dont really have that conscience on spending it for you leisure time. lol
legendary
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He's a good man after all if he wants to pay back the money he gambled away.

HO many of you would in all honesty give back so much money if you got it by mistake. It's easy to say it now and criticize the guy because you are not in his shoes. We all criticize people who made mistakes, but once in a while we do the same thing and become the victims of hate
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Japan has some strict laws on gambling and its allowed to specific people under specific conditions. You cant gamble openly in Japan like you do in USA or Europe. The man shouldn't have used that money for gambling since in banking system you can easily be traced. So the man was at guilty since he did a crime knowing that he can easily be caught.
I don't get it. If it's strict then why some are still allowed? Are their governments corrupt or what? And maybe they receive some kickbacks only to allow some offenders to gamble. Also, gambling in USA is not legal but I don't know about Europe if what is their stance against gambling. The man shouldn't have used that money, not because gambling is illegal or he can be tracked easily but because it was not his money.

Probably he used VPN to access online casinos if ever the government had blocked all the gambling casino available on the internet.

It is bad to use someone else money because other person also assumes for it and they might be using that money for a much important things like providing food for their family but now it's gone. What will happen to them now?

Assuming this person has gambling problems, he won't be in his right mind to think or consider that.  He will definitely spend this money on gambling without considering  the possibilities of him going to jail.
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different opinion for sure, but the amount is not something that can easily let go and the purpose is also important.
There is everything wrong with spending a money that was accidentally sent to you. Worst still, the money is this huge and should raise a lot of concerns in the mind of whom got the credit. His actions of not making enquiries and going straight to spending the outrageous amount and in gambling even tells he's got plans of his own and was ready to face the consequences. In instances like this, you get to contact your family and friends to be sure without stating the sum and then you proceed to verify from your bank, if they could supposedly contact the sender.

Fir all we know, it could be a scam deal for which, they want to frame someone or divert attention and it would be difficult explaining your innocence haven't spent the money already.

Perhaps, this was he trying to make some profit his own off the money before making further verifications and it went south. Unfortunately, forgiveness isn't the way to go about this and his got to return what he spent.

It's not that clear to me. He is to blame and he isn't. There's a number of people responsible for this.
The bank clerk who sent the money to the wrong person.
The manager who reviews transactions every day and all big transactions are double checked or at least should be. It took the bank 2 weeks to realize the mistake.
The gambler who could have approached it in many different ways but he chose the worst. If it's in your bank account you either take it all and run away hoping they won't find you, or you return it and hope for a reward.
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if he gets a severe punishment then I'm sure that person will really give up and will not repeat his stupidity again. other than that, hopefully, the media there spread the news about all of this so that other people don't do the same thing he did if they just got "wrong money sent" like this.
Well, if it's already watched on the media.

Many will not do this mistake and that's for the both side, the gambler and the sender who mistakenly sent the money. They've got some moral values and issues that they're taking as pride.

But it looks like not all of them are into it.
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now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
Japan has some strict laws on gambling and its allowed to specific people under specific conditions. You cant gamble openly in Japan like you do in USA or Europe. The man shouldn't have used that money for gambling since in banking system you can easily be traced. So the man was at guilty since he did a crime knowing that he can easily be caught.
I don't get it. If it's strict then why some are still allowed? Are their governments corrupt or what? And maybe they receive some kickbacks only to allow some offenders to gamble. Also, gambling in USA is not legal but I don't know about Europe if what is their stance against gambling. The man shouldn't have used that money, not because gambling is illegal or he can be tracked easily but because it was not his money.

It is bad to use someone else money because other person also assumes for it and they might be using that money for a much important things like providing food for their family but now it's gone. What will happen to them now?
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He said he will pay it back for one reason to show contrition vs his future trial and an effort to say he 'will pay the price'.    No doubt if he lives for a thousand years he would pay it back otherwise it seems unlikely.   However I do have good news for the man of great debts, YEN has achieved its lowest value in decades due to doubts over its central bank and its excessive debt via QE programs.  Its possible it could go the way of the communist Ruble and several other currencies and end up disappearing or 10,000 to 1 new Ruble in the case of the former soviet era currency.   Japan is of course the originator of the modern day QE concept and so the furthest down that yellow brick road.    This debtor can swear repayment of a soon to be worthless currency, how handy.   Possible not quite probable just yet.
And if to this we add that the population of Japan is decreasing and the number of elderly people is increasing as well then this means that Japan is not going to have the population to pay their debts anymore, however it is unlikely the fall of the Japan economic model will happen so soon as politicians are experts at manipulating public opinion, so I do not think this person will be able to escape the hell that is coming for him and pay the debt he has accumulated.
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now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
It's not his fault he received the money, but I'm damn sure it's entirely his fault for doing what he did with it.  And Jesus, I don't think COVID relief funds could have mistakenly ended up in worse hands than a gambler.  He says he's going to pay it all back, but somehow I've got my doubts about that.  


I agree is not his fault and he was wrong to use all part of the money wasteful. It is his opportunity not to gamble it but to investing it in real business to get profit and maybe the government will be happy with him and help him more but he wasted itin gambling think to have more  Grin

Depending on how hardcore a gambler he is, the government may have to wait a long-ass time before they see that money again.


The delay can be along time and government not able to wait a longer more for the people need the relief to die with hunger. Solution is to look else where to solve the debt problem because the money sent to the addict gambler has been used. The people can't die of food.


They could easily do what the US does and just create new money out of thin air, write a new check and send it to the right people this time.  

Ok get it. Maybe one option is print new money if no means available.

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He said he will pay it back for one reason to show contrition vs his future trial and an effort to say he 'will pay the price'.    No doubt if he lives for a thousand years he would pay it back otherwise it seems unlikely.   However I do have good news for the man of great debts, YEN has achieved its lowest value in decades due to doubts over its central bank and its excessive debt via QE programs.  Its possible it could go the way of the communist Ruble and several other currencies and end up disappearing or 10,000 to 1 new Ruble in the case of the former soviet era currency.   Japan is of course the originator of the modern day QE concept and so the furthest down that yellow brick road.    This debtor can swear repayment of a soon to be worthless currency, how handy.   Possible not quite probable just yet.
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Yes, but at least the person received the punishment and hopefully, it will deter him from doing the same thing in the future. That person should not think about making money from gambling because at least he should know and not try to make money from gambling. There might be a few who could do it but it wouldn't be much.

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Let's hope things turn out for him so he won't repeat his stupidity. If the media has spread the news about all that, it may provide information to other people, but it depends on the bank employee who doesn't double check the account number.
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now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
It's not his fault he received the money, but I'm damn sure it's entirely his fault for doing what he did with it.  And Jesus, I don't think COVID relief funds could have mistakenly ended up in worse hands than a gambler.  He says he's going to pay it all back, but somehow I've got my doubts about that.  Depending on how hardcore a gambler he is, the government may have to wait a long-ass time before they see that money again.

But hey, it's not like this is even going to put a ding on the government's massive money vault.  They could easily do what the US does and just create new money out of thin air, write a new check and send it to the right people this time.  It's probably a lot of money for one person, but not for an entire country.
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Let's hope this is his last experience of getting money that is unclear and that he doesn't misuse the money for gambling. Whatever it was, the money didn't belong to him and he should have returned it to the owner. This is a lesson for all of us to avoid trouble like him. And hopefully, he doesn't go back to the table and gamble with his other money and make it a lesson that gambling is not a way to make money.
if he gets a severe punishment then I'm sure that person will really give up and will not repeat his stupidity again. other than that, hopefully, the media there spread the news about all of this so that other people don't do the same thing he did if they just got "wrong money sent" like this.
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Let's hope this is his last experience of getting money that is unclear and that he doesn't misuse the money for gambling. Whatever it was, the money didn't belong to him and he should have returned it to the owner. This is a lesson for all of us to avoid trouble like him. And hopefully, he doesn't go back to the table and gamble with his other money and make it a lesson that gambling is not a way to make money.
I think the punishment received by this person in my opinion is still relatively light because it does not involve a lot of punishment that must be given, while gambling in my opinion not everyone fails to get additional results from gambling because I believe there are some people who have received the results by gambling can get results even if it's not too much at least he can get profit.

This kind of things have sanctions for sure because at the first place it is not his money and it is for the funds of the relief at the same time is there's a two possible outcomes with it, first if the man wins in the gambling there's a chance he got a profit and bring back the real funds he use, or else losing all of it and he will face the penalty of doing this but i guess he will get in trouble no matter what happen.
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