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Quote from: virasog on July 04, 2022, 11:06:24 AM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 01, 2022, 12:26:55 PM

I mean come on, it’s pretty obvious that it’s this Japanese man’s fault for not double checking as to why he was sent the extra money. That’s a whole lot of money being sent to someone by mistake. Not to mention it’s abundantly clear that this guy has major gambling issues. What a fool ! Lol

Right, that it was not his fault that someone sent him this much amount in his bank account but how can he use all these funds in gambling without investing where this money comes from. I am sure he has common sense and he did not believe that the bank sent him a bonus or extra money Cheesy

Not he will have to face the consequences of using funds that did not belong to him.

There can be one possibility that he knew that these funds had come to him accidently and sooner or later the bank will ask him to return the amount. So perhaps he decided to gamble with the funds and hope that he could make good money from these funds and then return the original amount to the bank / owner.
However, if this was the idea then i must say that it was extremely risky and he lost all in the end.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 01, 2022, 12:26:55 PM

I mean come on, it’s pretty obvious that it’s this Japanese man’s fault for not double checking as to why he was sent the extra money. That’s a whole lot of money being sent to someone by mistake. Not to mention it’s abundantly clear that this guy has major gambling issues. What a fool ! Lol

Right, that it was not his fault that someone sent him this much amount in his bank account but how can he use all these funds in gambling without investing where this money comes from. I am sure he has common sense and he did not believe that the bank sent him a bonus or extra money Cheesy

Not he will have to face the consequences of using funds that did not belong to him.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 01, 2022, 12:03:01 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on July 01, 2022, 11:32:42 AM

Further or deeper investigation might take place to seek for any possible inside job,

But since the last information coming from this news was the receiver had already been convicted, there's no other
updates about how the government treats the sender and the bank, if they already remove the possibilities of
something being done behind that mistake.

Yes maybe that's an inside job because that's a very huge amount of money it is very hard to believe that it has been mistakenly sent to someone,

I remember once there was a scenario like this happened in a bank in my city. the insider (bank worker) sent large amounts of money to 2 bank accounts, it turned out that after investigation, there were 4 people who did this, they worked together to commit large amounts of fraud

Quote from: molsewid on July 01, 2022, 12:03:01 PM

and the reason why he use that to gamble maybe for him to let them believe he lose some money so that he will leave no traces. And also him? he needs to be jailed for that I doubt he don't know that it is not his money.

maybe, because it is no longer possible for someone to return the money if everything has been lost due to losing gambling, if something is bought then the police will definitely confiscate the goods purchased. not easy to solve this case

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Quote from: Silberman on July 03, 2022, 01:37:10 PM

Quote from: virasisog on July 01, 2022, 12:59:04 PM

Receiving such a huge amount of money which is unexpected is too alarming. He should double-check it in the first place or question it but it's his fault for using it to gamble intentionally.
He really meant to spend it and he might actually have an idea that it was sent to him by mistake so he gambled it right away.

Mistakes like that happen all the time, it is very common to see stories of people receiving millions of dollars into their accounts out of nowhere, and most of the time what you see is that the people inform of the error and then it is corrected quickly by the bank without any issue, the difference is that this person saw that amount of money in his account and did not asked any questions and immediately assumed that money to be his, and now he is paying the consequences of such a dumb mistake.

That happens in the FIAT world because I have not read any story yet that says somebody by mistake received millions of dollars in crypto.That is just another flaw that is put to spotlight from the banking system compared to the decentralized nature of crypto.In crypto errors do not happen because everyone is in charge of his own money by real while keeping money in the bank,means that third parties are keeping your money and they are prone to errors and unauthorized access.

This makes me think why many people see crypto scary when in fact we should be scared from the banking slavery system.

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Quote from: Fatunad on June 29, 2022, 06:57:04 PM

~ You would pay the price on what you had committed since its not your money that you had spent which its really understandable that you would need to pay on what you had used even its an accident on where
those funds do sent into your account.~

Cases like this one may be used against all gambling industry. The phrase "gambled away" catches the eye of the reader, and then it sticks in the mind that gambling is always associated with something bad. I just want to note that such a person as this Japanese man, could buy a lot of alcohol and drink himself to death, or buy weapons and do something worse, like attempting robbing a bank with your friends, which ruins not only your life but theirs too.

So, it's not "Don't gamble with other people's money", it's "Don't take other people's money" in the first place.

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Quote from: virasisog on July 01, 2022, 12:59:04 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 01, 2022, 12:26:55 PM

I mean come on, it’s pretty obvious that it’s this Japanese man’s fault for not double checking as to why he was sent the extra money. That’s a whole lot of money being sent to someone by mistake. Not to mention it’s abundantly clear that this guy has major gambling issues. What a fool ! Lol

Receiving such a huge amount of money which is unexpected is too alarming. He should double-check it in the first place or question it but it's his fault for using it to gamble intentionally.
He really meant to spend it and he might actually have an idea that it was sent to him by mistake so he gambled it right away.

when money goes into a bank account, the owner of the account is very easy to track and this is what I can't understand why that Japanese man's thinking is so narrow (use the money to gamble). if I were that man then I would first trace the origin of the money because there is no use if I use the money, the bad effects I will receive are far greater than the profits I get because if I go to prison then the future will definitely break.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 03, 2022, 01:37:10 PM

Quote from: virasisog on July 01, 2022, 12:59:04 PM

Receiving such a huge amount of money which is unexpected is too alarming. He should double-check it in the first place or question it but it's his fault for using it to gamble intentionally.
He really meant to spend it and he might actually have an idea that it was sent to him by mistake so he gambled it right away.

Mistakes like that happen all the time, it is very common to see stories of people receiving millions of dollars into their accounts out of nowhere, and most of the time what you see is that the people inform of the error and then it is corrected quickly by the bank without any issue, the difference is that this person saw that amount of money in his account and did not asked any questions and immediately assumed that money to be his, and now he is paying the consequences of such a dumb mistake.

He got attracted with huge amount and with a gambling problem he took that money to fund his vices,

Even he knows that he can't escape with the enforcer law inside his country, he's now being arrested and charge with his
criminal liabilities, he takes that consequences even he knows what is waiting for him after losing that huge amount of
money with his gambling activities.

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Quote from: virasisog on July 01, 2022, 12:59:04 PM

Receiving such a huge amount of money which is unexpected is too alarming. He should double-check it in the first place or question it but it's his fault for using it to gamble intentionally.
He really meant to spend it and he might actually have an idea that it was sent to him by mistake so he gambled it right away.

Mistakes like that happen all the time, it is very common to see stories of people receiving millions of dollars into their accounts out of nowhere, and most of the time what you see is that the people inform of the error and then it is corrected quickly by the bank without any issue, the difference is that this person saw that amount of money in his account and did not asked any questions and immediately assumed that money to be his, and now he is paying the consequences of such a dumb mistake.

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Quote from: virasisog on July 01, 2022, 12:59:04 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 01, 2022, 12:26:55 PM

I mean come on, it’s pretty obvious that it’s this Japanese man’s fault for not double checking as to why he was sent the extra money. That’s a whole lot of money being sent to someone by mistake. Not to mention it’s abundantly clear that this guy has major gambling issues. What a fool ! Lol

Receiving such a huge amount of money which is unexpected is too alarming. He should double-check it in the first place or question it but it's his fault for using it to gamble intentionally.
He really meant to spend it and he might actually have an idea that it was sent to him by mistake so he gambled it right away.

I can't think of any possible reasons why he would gamble that large sum of money if he knows that it wasn't his money in the first place, he should contact his bank that the money was mistakenly sent to his account. Maybe if he had done that, he will be lucky enough to receive a reward but unfortunately, he did not so it's safe to say that he had it coming and he would really go to jail for that.

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Quote from: ipanks on July 01, 2022, 02:04:30 AM

Quote from: tabas on June 30, 2022, 06:23:58 PM

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The important thing is that there are no more mistakes in sending money to the destination account so that no one will be tempted to use money that doesn't belong to them.

That will for sure won't happen again, they have that tag already on the system that will avoid future mistakes specifically to that person again.

Quote from: ipanks on July 01, 2022, 02:04:30 AM

But if later there is still an error sending money to someone else's account, hopefully the recipient of the money does not use money that does not belong to him but reports it to the bank concerned so that it will not trigger other problems.

They'll be more careful this time and I think it will never happen again and if it happens again, the person who has done it will be heavily penalized. Just like what this guy did to the fund, whoever is the recipient if this goes again in the future, they don't know where it might be used.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 01, 2022, 12:26:55 PM

I mean come on, it’s pretty obvious that it’s this Japanese man’s fault for not double checking as to why he was sent the extra money. That’s a whole lot of money being sent to someone by mistake. Not to mention it’s abundantly clear that this guy has major gambling issues. What a fool ! Lol

Receiving such a huge amount of money which is unexpected is too alarming. He should double-check it in the first place or question it but it's his fault for using it to gamble intentionally.
He really meant to spend it and he might actually have an idea that it was sent to him by mistake so he gambled it right away.

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I mean come on, it’s pretty obvious that it’s this Japanese man’s fault for not double checking as to why he was sent the extra money. That’s a whole lot of money being sent to someone by mistake. Not to mention it’s abundantly clear that this guy has major gambling issues. What a fool ! Lol

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 01, 2022, 11:32:42 AM

Further or deeper investigation might take place to seek for any possible inside job,

But since the last information coming from this news was the receiver had already been convicted, there's no other
updates about how the government treats the sender and the bank, if they already remove the possibilities of
something being done behind that mistake.

Yes maybe that's an inside job because that's a very huge amount of money it is very hard to believe that it has been mistakenly sent to someone, and the reason why he use that to gamble maybe for him to let them believe he lose some money so that he will leave no traces. And also him? he needs to be jailed for that I doubt he don't know that it is not his money.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 28, 2022, 09:49:47 PM

The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).

I think there will be further investigation to determine whether or not the bank processing the payment is guilty. mainly due to negligence of wrongful act of transfer and this became known two weeks after they contacted the subject. legally the bank will be accountable in court. we have to see from many aspects, I don't understand much about law, especially Japanese legal jurisdiction. I don't agree that the man didn't know that the money he withdrew was not his because the 46m was not a small amount. imagine that money to be distributed among 436 souls. this case would be more interesting if Op continued the new news for this case.

Further or deeper investigation might take place to seek for any possible inside job,

But since the last information coming from this news was the receiver had already been convicted, there's no other
updates about how the government treats the sender and the bank, if they already remove the possibilities of
something being done behind that mistake.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 28, 2022, 11:02:23 PM

Quote from: X-ray on June 28, 2022, 09:49:47 PM

The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.

If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.

What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).

I think there will be further investigation to determine whether or not the bank processing the payment is guilty. mainly due to negligence of wrongful act of transfer and this became known two weeks after they contacted the subject. legally the bank will be accountable in court. we have to see from many aspects, I don't understand much about law, especially Japanese legal jurisdiction. I don't agree that the man didn't know that the money he withdrew was not his because the 46m was not a small amount. imagine that money to be distributed among 436 souls. this case would be more interesting if Op continued the new news for this case.

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Quote from: Oilacris on June 30, 2022, 03:55:50 PM

Its still considered stealing but not on the sense on completely to be like that since it wasnt been forced but rather it had been gained accidentally but on that ethicality of things then its just understandable that you would really be giving it back since its not yours which you dont know if those funds is used on something more beneficial or something that could help out or even with just some personal money then its not really that right on spending on it. If your mentality is somewhat been greedy then you would definitely be doing that same on what that man did.

But of course every action would be having corresponding outcome or results whether positive or negative but this one is obviously negative.Dont expect that you would be ending up on having no headache once they had been able to traced out and asking for the money to be given back.

I can't understand why that person easily uses money that doesn't belong to him. He even uses it for gambling. I thought it would be fine if he could win some money but he lost the money instead and now he has to return it to the person who owns the money because the money will be distributed to other people again.

Yes, it depends on our minds when we accidentally find something and take it secretly. But if we have no intention of using that much money, we will return it to the bank.

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Quote from: ipanks on July 01, 2022, 02:04:30 AM

Quote from: tabas on June 30, 2022, 06:23:58 PM

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The important thing is that there are no more mistakes in sending money to the destination account so that no one will be tempted to use money that doesn't belong to them. But if later there is still an error sending money to someone else's account, hopefully the recipient of the money does not use money that does not belong to him but reports it to the bank concerned so that it will not trigger other problems.

When it has to do with fiat and bank transfer that go wrongly to accounts not made for, it can be traced and retrieved though after a while. Usually the banks have details of their customers (that is the difference with cryptocurrency) and they also have synergy with follow banks incase of those traces. Now if there is a wrong transfer made, the bank can send such information to the receiver after sometime to remit it and when this is not done then the bank can freeze the account and go after the person using the police and other legal means.

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Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on June 24, 2022, 05:00:49 AM

if he gets a severe punishment then I'm sure that person will really give up and will not repeat his stupidity again. other than that, hopefully, the media there spread the news about all of this so that other people don't do the same thing he did if they just got "wrong money sent" like this.

Well, if it's already watched on the media.

Many will not do this mistake and that's for the both side, the gambler and the sender who mistakenly sent the money. They've got some moral values and issues that they're taking as pride.

But it looks like not all of them are into it.

Well the Japanese man had made a silly mistake to have spent all the relief fund on gambling without having remaining money he can pay back to the government. I can see that this is as a result of gambling addiction. He had been so addicted to gambling that is why he had to lavish all the relief fund on gambling without having any profit he can boast of. We need to be very careful when it comes to gambling activities cause things can go wrong anytime.

Honestly the man deserve a jail term for having the boldness and audacity to spent and gamble with a money that supposed to look suspicious to him, to make matter worse he gambled with the whole money rather than gamble with the amount of money he afford to lose and can easily refund, or should have invested the money after his arrest so that he can easily refund or return the money, infact this is case of addicted chronic gambler, having lost such a huge amount of money daily he continued to gamble after streak of losses, IMO opinion the government officials should wade into the matter and find means of retrieving the money from the gambling site.

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Quote from: tabas on June 30, 2022, 06:23:58 PM

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The important thing is that there are no more mistakes in sending money to the destination account so that no one will be tempted to use money that doesn't belong to them. But if later there is still an error sending money to someone else's account, hopefully the recipient of the money does not use money that does not belong to him but reports it to the bank concerned so that it will not trigger other problems.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 30, 2022, 03:19:46 AM

What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him.

I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.

He deserves it since he use the money that isn't entitle for him and worse thing he did, he let it burned inside the gambling house,

no one can escape that law especially in a country where honesty is being practice it's big crime inside Japan. He's already arrested

and will serve his crime while trying to settle the amount that he abused to use.

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