Topic: Jesus Christ is comming back here - page 2. (Read 23236 times)

You need to use your imagination. You know that most of this is Jewish oral tradition, but where does it come from?

I already can guess some things, its backed in history. The Euphrates / Tigris was an incredibly fertile valley. It is known that the first city states appeared there because....

They had recurrent floods, as in BIG floods. And it was until the different groups much later banded together to device a solution (channels?), the disasters kept coming every few years (decades?) or so. So i think during that, some farmer thought how to save his livestock, and he devised a solution  while everyone laughed at him. I guess the joke was on them...

What is "the world" for a farmer that never leaves his valley? Easy isn't?

Eventually the city states, then warred and a victor came and would be later became the Babylon empire.

Of course most things in there are distorted, it passed not only by oral memory, it also moved across translations and languages. Taking the bible literally is absurd at best. Some things like Moses laws are probably accurate. And there are several books by several authors prophets etc. Mostly Jewish. You can even spot some discrepancies with what current Jews keep from the scriptures and the Christians. Add in context, culture, and the minds of people from thousands of years ago.

More non Biblical content would be nice to have, but it takes a special type of zealot only religion types made it possible to survive time. I mean just how many times wars destroyed everything? Especially books (or scrolls). Even the last war in the area the American soldiers could just not resist humanity's ancestral addiction to just burn the library (again) where the oldest human writing was lost (only pics remain).

So as distorted as it is, there are mention of places, of people, actual rulers, and specific periods. 6000 years could actually just be the age of Judaism, since "Adam and Eve"were kicked of that valley. We know humanity did not start there, but in Africa, and earlier groups starting moving towards that direction so yes.

The Bible is filled with tiny bits of history here and there, they are sometimes hard to spot, but they are there. Very interesting when you have already studied universal history from a secular point of view.

So Jesus brought the Jewish words of love, i guess he wanted to tone down those harsh rules from Moses, so its a next step in civilization. But before Moses, things were even worse, especially the surrounding cultures would not mind human sacrifices and what not. So yes every little bit advanced civilization, even Islam but that's already at a later stage and some argue it had to come after people did not follow Jesus teachings...

But history did not stop there, its still going...

As someone who believes and agrees on what is written in the Bible, it has become a necessity that there is no need to debate anymore. other than indeed you do not believe, it will be a problem and explained even you will not believe it. so what is important as a believer in HIM is that His coming is certain and real.

You didn't read too much about religion, did you?

This subject can be found all over the Internet, besides religious books, but to answer to your question, the Bible states the following:

1. Regarding a single currency
Revelation 13:16–17: "Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name".

Of course, it is not written exactly that that there will be one single currency, but this is the meaning. The respective mark could be, for example, a NFC chip inserted under the skin.

2. Regarding a single leader
Revelation 13:3–4: "[...]And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?""
Revelation 13:7–8: "[...]And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain".

Obviously, nor in this case is written precisely that there will be an unique world leader. But you can understand the meaning. Now coming back to my previous reply, in case cryptocurreny would be that one single currency used when the Antichrist will come, then the Antichrist could be as well the Singularity.

I don't think Jesus Christ is coming back here It is a misunderstanding of man that after death one can no longer hold Everyone knows it will be death, but the return is uncertain Instead of Jesus Christ, he must take responsibility for the good of the people. It is a form of human business.

Got some references... besides the book you wrote?

This thread remembered of an old thought.

Remember what was is said in some books of religion? That a sign of Antichrist would be a single coin used in the world. Some said it is USD, some said it is Euro.

What if that sign and that coin would be, in fact, BTC, and the Antichrist would be THE SINGULARITY? Meaning that self-conscious AI controlling the Internet and the entire devices connected?

Ever thought of that?

Maybe he is coming to save the world as we are getting even worse and worse.
So many humanitarian crisis is happening in all places around the world and something needs to be done for that.

Any updates, did his flight get delayed by bad weather? How much longer before Jesus finally gets here?

While in reality... we can find dinosaur bones from two hundred million years ago.

And zero global evidence of a flood a few thousand years ago... 

Why would you think this? God is so great that He even made people to have free will.

You have free will (of course, I don't know your personal circumstances). So, if you use your free will to go and get a gun and shoot yourself in the foot, you will have to put up with the results. If you shoot yourself in the heart or head, you will have to put up with those results, too.

When the people of Noah's day placed themselves into the position of having to be destroyed, God did it for them. They had free will to not place themselves into position for destruction. After all, God is the controller and authority over all things: the operation of your gun and bullets; the operation of the destruction that unbelievers bring on themselves; and the operations of peace that God believers ask for by believing.

So even in your imagination, the most powerful entity you can think of doesn't have free will or the ability to make animals breath underwater? 

 

Well, it was two pair of what was considered to be unclean animals, and 7 pair of what was considered to be clean animals. But it was easy. No capturing at all. God simply commanded the animals to board the ark, and they obeyed. If people obeyed as well as the animals, he wouldn't have had to bring the flood on the world at all.

The interesting thing is, God didn't really want to have to do it. So, He promised to never do a worldwide flood again. The rainbow reminds us of His promise... and that weather actions changed at that time, because there weren't any rainbows prior to the flood.

Since that time God made judgment of people to be in their own hands, determined by their thoughts and actions. When the destruction of the universe comes, God will save His believers out of it, and you jokers will be destroyed by your unbelief. Of course, you might have a change of heart in time to be saved.

Must have been hard as fuck to capture each insect, can you imagine that shit?

Flooding the world and capturing two of every animal for no reason seems pretty stupid.

 

''Bible laws are some of the best and briefest that are around.''

Are they, though? Which ones, the ones who allow you to enslave people or the ones who allow you to kill people who work on the sabbath? Perhaps the ones about rape? You are a joke, defender of slavery and rape.

That's not true. There are secular writings that talk about Jesus. All you need to do is search for them.

Besides, the Bible doesn't have any stupid shit in it, except when it is a record of the stupid shit that people do in opposing God. Bible laws are some of the best and briefest that are around.

And yet not history book or any book talks about jesus, only the Bible. Seems like no one else in history has seen god or jesus or the flood or any other magic stupid shit the bible talks about.

When Jesus came the first time, He came to do the work of redeeming the world. That work was something that had to do with the pain of punishment for all the people that would ever live. It meant that He had to live in obscurity, not even having fame. He became powerful in His ministry, because the kind of ministry He did automatically interjected Him into some sort of fame. But even then He was humble enough about it that the people rejected Him... because they were looking for a powerful, famous, dignified leader. This caused His greater humility, which is what he was intent on at that time.

What does being humble really mean? It means being REAL. If a powerful person acts overly humble, he is not being real. If a weak person acts overly powerful, he is proud, and not real. Because of the great work of salvation that Jesus did, God made Him King of the whole universe. When He returns, humility dictates that the whole world will know Him, because the REALITY is that Jesus is ABSOLUTE RULER over the whole universe... even the laws of physics.

Jesus says in the Bible, that when He returns, every eye will see Him. His return will be like the lightening that flashes across the sky from one end of the sky to the other. Nobody will miss Him when He comes back.

How do you know that Jesus Christ didn't already come?
How do you know, if he come, that you will recognize him?
As I remember, just a few people recognized Jesus when He came first time.

''you would see that standard science, itself, upholds biblical science.''

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors
https://www.news24.com/MyNews24/The-Problem-of-the-Bible-Inaccuracies-contradictions-fallacies-scientific-issues-and-more-20120517
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.html

Unfortunately for you, that's not true, unless you have some evidence to back up your claims.