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Quote from: ranlo on June 30, 2014, 01:00:59 AM

Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 01:55:48 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 12:55:39 PM

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26   2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.11702310 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:09.6031 profit:  209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685  5247.70837774
27   2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2%  hi: lucky:03.5475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal:   0.00000000 n:748 -1768.58056457

Notice the "n:" values - that's the nonce. He made a lot of "dust" bets between the big ones.

Is the "nonce" just a running total of each person's bets? In that if one is n:15 and the next is n:18, 2 bets were made in between there (#16 and 17)?

Yes.

Between the two bets shown above, n=685 and n=748, there were around 60 small bets:

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2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.1170231 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:96031 profit:209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685 fuckit tot:5247.70837774
2013-10-04 07:19:59 #152094083: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:680800 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28894516 n:686 fuckit tot:5247.70838059
2013-10-04 07:20:01 #152094140: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:785708 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28894801 n:687 fuckit tot:5247.70838344
2013-10-04 07:20:02 #152094172: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:986747 profit:-0.00010000 bal:7016.28884801 n:688 fuckit tot:5247.70828344
2013-10-04 07:20:04 #152094238: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:40071 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28885086 n:689 fuckit tot:5247.70828629
2013-10-04 07:20:07 #152094334: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:957128 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28885371 n:690 fuckit tot:5247.70828914
2013-10-04 07:20:09 #152094400: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:198492 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28885656 n:691 fuckit tot:5247.70829199
2013-10-04 07:20:11 #152094454: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:14431 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28885941 n:692 fuckit tot:5247.70829484
2013-10-04 07:20:20 #152094485: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:81479 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28886226 n:693 fuckit tot:5247.70829769
2013-10-04 07:20:22 #152094533: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:103316 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28886511 n:694 fuckit tot:5247.70830054
2013-10-04 07:20:32 #152094581: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:400645 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28886796 n:695 fuckit tot:5247.70830339
2013-10-04 07:20:34 #152094632: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:407036 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28887081 n:696 fuckit tot:5247.70830624
2013-10-04 07:20:35 #152094664: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:329031 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28887366 n:697 fuckit tot:5247.70830909
2013-10-04 07:20:36 #152094696: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:608122 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28887651 n:698 fuckit tot:5247.70831194
2013-10-04 07:20:38 #152094724: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:90824 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28887936 n:699 fuckit tot:5247.70831479
2013-10-04 07:20:39 #152094757: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:269836 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28888221 n:700 fuckit tot:5247.70831764
2013-10-04 07:20:40 #152094782: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:45195 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28888506 n:701 fuckit tot:5247.70832049
2013-10-04 07:20:41 #152094805: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:520595 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28888791 n:702 fuckit tot:5247.70832334
2013-10-04 07:20:42 #152094840: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:891094 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28889076 n:703 fuckit tot:5247.70832619
2013-10-04 07:20:43 #152094867: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:739502 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28889361 n:704 fuckit tot:5247.70832904
2013-10-04 07:20:44 #152094899: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:946173 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28889646 n:705 fuckit tot:5247.70833189
2013-10-04 07:20:46 #152094946: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:712490 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28889931 n:706 fuckit tot:5247.70833474
2013-10-04 07:20:47 #152094974: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:162547 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28890216 n:707 fuckit tot:5247.70833759
2013-10-04 07:20:48 #152095003: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:385658 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28890501 n:708 fuckit tot:5247.70834044
2013-10-04 07:20:49 #152095042: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:735072 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28890786 n:709 fuckit tot:5247.70834329
2013-10-04 07:20:50 #152095068: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:887858 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28891071 n:710 fuckit tot:5247.70834614
2013-10-04 07:20:51 #152095095: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:420160 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28891356 n:711 fuckit tot:5247.70834899
2013-10-04 07:20:53 #152095132: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:128541 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28891641 n:712 fuckit tot:5247.70835184
2013-10-04 07:20:54 #152095163: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:615113 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28891926 n:713 fuckit tot:5247.70835469
2013-10-04 07:20:55 #152095213: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:491059 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28892211 n:714 fuckit tot:5247.70835754
2013-10-04 07:20:57 #152095247: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:853903 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28892496 n:715 fuckit tot:5247.70836039
2013-10-04 07:20:58 #152095279: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:148917 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28892781 n:716 fuckit tot:5247.70836324
2013-10-04 07:20:59 #152095307: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:136817 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28893066 n:717 fuckit tot:5247.70836609
2013-10-04 07:21:00 #152095334: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:658350 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28893351 n:718 fuckit tot:5247.70836894
2013-10-04 07:21:01 #152095364: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:615994 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28893636 n:719 fuckit tot:5247.70837179
2013-10-04 07:21:02 #152095398: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:874716 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28893921 n:720 fuckit tot:5247.70837464
2013-10-04 07:21:03 #152095439: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:84760 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28894206 n:721 fuckit tot:5247.70837749
2013-10-04 07:21:05 #152095472: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:92157 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28894491 n:722 fuckit tot:5247.70838034
2013-10-04 07:21:06 #152095503: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:88338 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28894776 n:723 fuckit tot:5247.70838319
2013-10-04 07:21:07 #152095536: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:55437 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28895061 n:724 fuckit tot:5247.70838604
2013-10-04 07:21:09 #152095590: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:602183 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28895346 n:725 fuckit tot:5247.70838889
2013-10-04 07:21:11 #152095644: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:568998 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28895631 n:726 fuckit tot:5247.70839174
2013-10-04 07:21:12 #152095666: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:20477 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28895916 n:727 fuckit tot:5247.70839459
2013-10-04 07:21:15 #152095757: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:205643 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28896201 n:728 fuckit tot:5247.70839744
2013-10-04 07:21:16 #152095788: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:580748 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28896486 n:729 fuckit tot:5247.70840029
2013-10-04 07:21:18 #152095837: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:452110 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28896771 n:730 fuckit tot:5247.70840314
2013-10-04 07:21:19 #152095871: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:892427 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28897056 n:731 fuckit tot:5247.70840599
2013-10-04 07:21:21 #152095916: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:756383 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28897341 n:732 fuckit tot:5247.70840884
2013-10-04 07:21:23 #152095961: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:450480 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28897626 n:733 fuckit tot:5247.70841169
2013-10-04 07:21:24 #152095985: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:755319 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28897911 n:734 fuckit tot:5247.70841454
2013-10-04 07:21:24 #152096011: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:759980 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28898196 n:735 fuckit tot:5247.70841739
2013-10-04 07:21:25 #152096033: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:461326 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28898481 n:736 fuckit tot:5247.70842024
2013-10-04 07:21:26 #152096073: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:391741 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28898766 n:737 fuckit tot:5247.70842309
2013-10-04 07:21:27 #152096105: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:379968 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28899051 n:738 fuckit tot:5247.70842594
2013-10-04 07:21:28 #152096131: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:650507 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28899336 n:739 fuckit tot:5247.70842879
2013-10-04 07:21:29 #152096162: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:960241 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28899621 n:740 fuckit tot:5247.70843164
2013-10-04 07:21:30 #152096197: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:46578 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28899906 n:741 fuckit tot:5247.70843449
2013-10-04 07:21:31 #152096224: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:41173 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28900191 n:742 fuckit tot:5247.70843734
2013-10-04 07:21:32 #152096253: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:353702 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28900476 n:743 fuckit tot:5247.70844019
2013-10-04 07:21:34 #152096305: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:377849 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28900761 n:744 fuckit tot:5247.70844304
2013-10-04 07:21:35 #152096347: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:60108 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28901046 n:745 fuckit tot:5247.70844589
2013-10-04 07:21:36 #152096391: 0.0001 @ 96.25% hi: lucky:941745 profit:0.00000285 bal:7016.28901331 n:746 fuckit tot:5247.70844874
2013-10-04 07:21:38 #152096427: 0.0001 @ 96.25% lo: lucky:977979 profit:-0.00010000 bal:7016.28891331 n:747 fuckit tot:5247.70834874
2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2% hi: lucky:35475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal:0.00000000 n:748 fuckit tot:-1768.58056457

Note that the last roll before the big losing one rolled a very high number, 97.7 - I guess he was "pre-rolling". That's where you make small bets until the right number comes out, then make a real bet safe in the knowledge that you already threw away your bad numbers. Or something like that. It doesn't work, clearly.

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Quote from: freedomno1 on June 30, 2014, 04:28:16 AM

Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 10:02:20 PM

Quote from: PacoMartin on June 29, 2014, 07:52:33 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

I can see how you get death threats all day.

Those are the kinds of things that psychotic people say. You need some serious help.

Yeah, I thought that was a little odd too. It wasn't me taking his coins after all.

One of the best things about JD is that their is no person who will kick you out when you win too much.
That and no crazy's demanding for all their money in person but over the internet
Or they would need to fight every single person who won there Grin

Except the max bet gets changed if you win too much Tongue

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Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 10:02:20 PM

Quote from: PacoMartin on June 29, 2014, 07:52:33 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

I can see how you get death threats all day.

Those are the kinds of things that psychotic people say. You need some serious help.

Yeah, I thought that was a little odd too. It wasn't me taking his coins after all.

One of the best things about JD is that their is no person who will kick you out when you win too much.
That and no crazy's demanding for all their money in person but over the internet
Or they would need to fight every single person who won there Grin

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Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 01:55:48 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 12:55:39 PM

Jesus why did he keep on upping the bet amount. If he just kept it at 1767.51587669 he could have still walked away with over 1902 BTC after the loss.

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26   2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.11702310 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:09.6031 profit:  209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685  5247.70837774
27   2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2%  hi: lucky:03.5475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal:   0.00000000 n:748 -1768.58056457

bal:7022.06980768 bet: 7016.28891331 bal: 0.00000000

How did this happen? 7022.06980768-7016.28891331=0.00000000 ?

Notice the "n:" values - that's the nonce. He made a lot of "dust" bets between the big ones. He also kept withdrawing his whole balance to the "mechs" account, and redepositing it to the "fuckit" account. The "mechs" account was blocked from betting.

Here's a list of the deposits and withdrawals on the "fuckit" account"

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Wed Oct 2 07:32:05 2013 deposit 1767.51600189
Wed Oct 2 08:22:24 2013 withdraw 3837.84333818
Thu Oct 3 22:07:25 2013 deposit 9.10000000
Thu Oct 3 22:14:23 2013 deposit 3837.84273818
Thu Oct 3 22:32:01 2013 withdraw 5522.20241320
Fri Oct 4 04:57:44 2013 deposit 5519.94844125
Fri Oct 4 05:15:47 2013 withdraw 7022.06980768
Fri Oct 4 07:19:13 2013 deposit 7016.28894231

Is the "nonce" just a running total of each person's bets? In that if one is n:15 and the next is n:18, 2 bets were made in between there (#16 and 17)?

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Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

From 7023 to 7016 within 2 hours. That is some seriously bad luck. I think at the time the price was $100/BTC. He lost $700 in 2 hours just by investing.

I dug up more of the chat surrounding the events. At one point he comments:

2013-10-04 05:34:20 wow already lost 3 BTC in my new investment
2013-10-04 05:34:40 investing here really does make you a gambler
...
2013-10-04 05:57:31 omg, my profits down 5 BTC already - investing is rough

Here's the log: http://pastie.org/pastes/9338997/text

Quote from: PacoMartin on June 29, 2014, 07:52:33 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

I can see how you get death threats all day.

Those are the kinds of things that psychotic people say. You need some serious help.

Yeah, I thought that was a little odd too. It wasn't me taking his coins after all.

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Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

From 7023 to 7016 within 2 hours. That is some seriously bad luck. I think at the time the price was $100/BTC. He lost $700 in 2 hours just by investing.

A few days later the bank made 2,722 in one day. Since I am sure betting was not uniformly spread throughout the day some hours may have jumped up 300 BTC. Someone who was invested at 7K BTC would easily have as much as 20% of the Bank. So a change of 7 BTC in two hours would not be particularly shocking.

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

I can see how you get death threats all day.

Those are the kinds of things that psychotic people say. You need some serious help.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on June 29, 2014, 05:48:46 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 04:38:46 PM

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2013-10-04 05:16:59 deposit 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:16:59 invest 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:28 deposit 1 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:29 invest 1 BTC
2013-10-04 07:15:53 divest ALL 7016.288942310735 BTC

From 7023 to 7016 within 2 hours. That is some seriously bad luck. I think at the time the price was $100/BTC. He lost $700 in 2 hours just by investing. I can see how you get death threats all day.

This guy is a multi millionaire... i doubt he cares about some measly $700. Thats like investing 1BTC and losing 0.00085BTC...

Just like pfft I lost a bit of my Bitcoin
That is a whale though so don't think they would cry over that little spilled milk.

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Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 05:17:31 PM

Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 04:38:46 PM

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2013-10-04 05:16:59 deposit 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:16:59 invest 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:28 deposit 1 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:29 invest 1 BTC
2013-10-04 07:15:53 divest ALL 7016.288942310735 BTC

From 7023 to 7016 within 2 hours. That is some seriously bad luck. I think at the time the price was $100/BTC. He lost $700 in 2 hours just by investing. I can see how you get death threats all day.

This guy is a multi millionaire... i doubt he cares about some measly $700. Thats like investing 1BTC and losing 0.00085BTC...

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Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 04:38:46 PM

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2013-10-04 05:16:59 deposit 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:16:59 invest 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:28 deposit 1 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:29 invest 1 BTC
2013-10-04 07:15:53 divest ALL 7016.288942310735 BTC

From 7023 to 7016 within 2 hours. That is some seriously bad luck. I think at the time the price was $100/BTC. He lost $700 in 2 hours just by investing. I can see how you get death threats all day.

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Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 01:55:48 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 12:55:39 PM

How did this happen? 7022.06980768-7016.28891331=0.00000000 ?

Here's a list of the deposits and withdrawals on the "fuckit" account"

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Wed Oct 2 07:32:05 2013 deposit 1767.51600189
Wed Oct 2 08:22:24 2013 withdraw 3837.84333818
Thu Oct 3 22:07:25 2013 deposit 9.10000000
Thu Oct 3 22:14:23 2013 deposit 3837.84273818
Thu Oct 3 22:32:01 2013 withdraw 5522.20241320
Fri Oct 4 04:57:44 2013 deposit 5519.94844125
Fri Oct 4 05:15:47 2013 withdraw 7022.06980768
Fri Oct 4 07:19:13 2013 deposit 7016.28894231

OK, so now I see what happened. He withdrew 7022 to the 'mechs' account, invested it, and someone won a bit. By the time he divested, only 7016 was left. Here are the invest/divest/deposit/withdraw actions on the 'mechs' account around the same time:

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2013-09-29 22:53:22 divest ALL 1958.21318353 BTC

2013-09-29 23:01:59 invest ALL 1958.21318353 BTC
2013-10-01 01:39:49 divest ALL 1762.68784864 BTC

2013-10-01 01:41:30 invest ALL 1762.68784864 BTC
2013-10-02 04:43:49 divest ALL 1767.51610189 BTC

2013-10-02 04:45:45 withdraw 1767.51610189 BTC

2013-10-03 22:32:47 deposit 5522.20241320 BTC
2013-10-03 22:32:47 invest 5522.2024132 BTC
2013-10-04 04:53:05 divest ALL 5519.948441245403 BTC

2013-10-04 04:56:06 withdraw 5519.94844125 BTC
2013-10-04 05:16:59 deposit 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:16:59 invest 7022.06980768 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:28 deposit 1 BTC
2013-10-04 05:27:29 invest 1 BTC
2013-10-04 07:15:53 divest ALL 7016.288942310735 BTC
2013-10-04 07:17:42 withdraw 7016.28894231 BTC

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Quote from: dooglus on June 29, 2014, 01:55:48 PM

He made a lot of "dust" bets between the big ones.

Man don't you know how to win at dice? You have to make a whole bunch of 0 bets to use up all of your bad luck reserves, then when you have full good luck you make the big bet. Jeez it's like it's you don't even know how to calculate the chance of getting <50 after getting <50 26 times!

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Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 12:55:39 PM

Jesus why did he keep on upping the bet amount. If he just kept it at 1767.51587669 he could have still walked away with over 1902 BTC after the loss.

Code:

26   2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.11702310 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:09.6031 profit:  209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685  5247.70837774
27   2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2%  hi: lucky:03.5475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal:   0.00000000 n:748 -1768.58056457

bal:7022.06980768 bet: 7016.28891331 bal: 0.00000000

How did this happen? 7022.06980768-7016.28891331=0.00000000 ?

Notice the "n:" values - that's the nonce. He made a lot of "dust" bets between the big ones. He also kept withdrawing his whole balance to the "mechs" account, and redepositing it to the "fuckit" account. The "mechs" account was blocked from betting.

Here's a list of the deposits and withdrawals on the "fuckit" account"

Quote

Wed Oct 2 07:32:05 2013 deposit 1767.51600189
Wed Oct 2 08:22:24 2013 withdraw 3837.84333818
Thu Oct 3 22:07:25 2013 deposit 9.10000000
Thu Oct 3 22:14:23 2013 deposit 3837.84273818
Thu Oct 3 22:32:01 2013 withdraw 5522.20241320
Fri Oct 4 04:57:44 2013 deposit 5519.94844125
Fri Oct 4 05:15:47 2013 withdraw 7022.06980768
Fri Oct 4 07:19:13 2013 deposit 7016.28894231

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Quote from: ranlo on June 29, 2014, 01:29:43 PM

Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 12:55:39 PM

Jesus why did he keep on upping the bet amount. If he just kept it at 1767.51587669 he could have still walked away with over 1902 BTC after the loss.

Code:

26   2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.11702310 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:09.6031 profit:  209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685  5247.70837774
27   2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2%  hi: lucky:03.5475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal:   0.00000000 n:748 -1768.58056457

bal:7022.06980768 bet: 7016.28891331 bal: 0.00000000

How did this happen? 7022.06980768-7016.28891331=0.00000000 ?

Probably invested the winnings for those 2 hours, then divested to give it another go. The increase in balance would be from the profit.

Yup I just noticed that there are other bets that are skipped in that list. The nonce jumps from 685 to 748

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Quote from: infested999 on June 29, 2014, 12:55:39 PM

Jesus why did he keep on upping the bet amount. If he just kept it at 1767.51587669 he could have still walked away with over 1902 BTC after the loss.

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26   2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.11702310 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:09.6031 profit:  209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685  5247.70837774
27   2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2%  hi: lucky:03.5475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal:   0.00000000 n:748 -1768.58056457

bal:7022.06980768 bet: 7016.28891331 bal: 0.00000000

How did this happen? 7022.06980768-7016.28891331=0.00000000 ?

Probably invested the winnings for those 2 hours, then divested to give it another go. The increase in balance would be from the profit.

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Jesus why did he keep on upping the bet amount. If he just kept it at 1767.51587669 he could have still walked away with over 1902 BTC after the loss.

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26   2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.11702310 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:09.6031 profit:  209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685  5247.70837774
27   2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2%  hi: lucky:03.5475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal:   0.00000000 n:748 -1768.58056457

bal:7022.06980768 bet: 7016.28891331 bal: 0.00000000

How did this happen? 7022.06980768-7016.28891331=0.00000000 ?

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Quote from: Lohoris on June 29, 2014, 11:25:19 AM

Quote from: Bizmark13 on June 28, 2014, 08:52:13 AM

Someone actually lost a 98% bet? And 7k BTC on a 96% bet? That's crazy. Seems so unlikely that it would fail.

You lose a 98% bet 2% of the time.
That is, 1 every 50.
If there were just 50 bets per day on the site, on average 1 would still lose, every day.
Do your math.

"Someone lost 7k on a 96% bet? Wow!"

It seems amazing until you realise that he made 27 such bets in a row, and won the first 26 of them...

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1   2013-10-02 07:34:43 #148575723: 1767.51587669 @ 92% hi: lucky:19.0776 profit: 134.48490980 bal:1902.00078649 n: 58 134.48478460
2   2013-10-02 07:34:53 #148575921: 1767.51587669 @ 92% hi: lucky:12.2165 profit: 134.48490980 bal:2036.48569629 n: 59 268.96969440
3   2013-10-02 07:35:39 #148576957: 1767.51587669 @ 92% hi: lucky:73.9495 profit: 134.48490980 bal:2170.97060609 n: 60 403.45460420
4   2013-10-02 07:42:12 #148584193: 2170.97057849 @ 92% hi: lucky:60.4122 profit: 165.18255156 bal:2336.15313005 n:114 568.63712816
5   2013-10-02 07:43:30 #148585325: 2336.15313005 @ 92% hi: lucky:79.5807 profit: 177.75078975 bal:2513.90391980 n:115 746.38791791
6   2013-10-02 07:48:30 #148590355: 2513.90372740 @ 92% hi: lucky:52.1169 profit: 191.27529235 bal:2705.17901975 n:119 937.66301786
7   2013-10-02 07:49:13 #148590882: 2513.90372740 @ 92% hi: lucky:93.7250 profit: 191.27529235 bal:2896.45431210 n:120 1128.93831021
8   2013-10-02 07:51:02 #148591949: 2896.45431590 @ 92% hi: lucky:57.2928 profit: 220.38240367 bal:3116.83671957 n:126 1349.32071768
9   2013-10-02 08:01:57 #148601047: 3116.83674877 @ 93% hi: lucky:92.4414 profit: 201.08624487 bal:3317.92299364 n:145 1550.40699175
10   2013-10-02 08:12:54 #148612542: 3317.92314519 @ 93% hi: lucky:82.9679 profit: 214.05956096 bal:3531.98270615 n:186 1764.46670426
11   2013-10-02 08:19:29 #148618898: 3533.97982021 @ 95% hi: lucky:45.0747 profit: 148.79913916 bal:3682.77895937 n:236 1915.26295748
12   2013-10-02 08:21:04 #148620446: 3682.77897204 @ 95% hi: lucky:56.5205 profit: 155.06436614 bal:3837.84333818 n:241 2070.32733629
13   2013-10-03 22:16:36 #151396071: 3846.94273818 @ 93.01% hi: lucky:41.2406 profit: 247.74957520 bal:4094.69231338 n:308 2318.07691149
14   2013-10-03 22:16:56 #151396629: 3846.94273818 @ 93.03% hi: lucky:90.6891 profit: 246.86927929 bal:4341.56159267 n:309 2564.94619078
15   2013-10-03 22:17:12 #151397027: 3846.94273818 @ 93.09% hi: lucky:78.7297 profit: 244.23066127 bal:4585.79225394 n:310 2809.17685205
16   2013-10-03 22:17:36 #151397665: 3846.94273818 @ 93.2% hi: lucky:33.1190 profit: 239.40201721 bal:4825.19427115 n:311 3048.57886926
17   2013-10-03 22:21:15 #151403104: 4825.19427115 @ 94.3% hi: lucky:40.0573 profit: 240.49216990 bal:5065.68644105 n:314 3289.07103916
18   2013-10-03 22:24:13 #151406494: 5065.68648587 @ 94.55% hi: lucky:17.7951 profit: 238.41673708 bal:5304.10322295 n:327 3527.48782106
19   2013-10-03 22:27:04 #151408897: 5304.10330755 @ 95.09% hi: lucky:05.4491 profit: 218.09910565 bal:5522.20241320 n:346 3745.58701131
20   2013-10-04 05:01:01 #151911402: 5519.94840009 @ 95.21% hi: lucky:97.9878 profit: 219.73115077 bal:5739.67955086 n:530 3965.31812092
21   2013-10-04 05:01:05 #151911481: 5519.94840009 @ 95.21% hi: lucky:59.0951 profit: 219.73115077 bal:5959.41070163 n:531 4185.04927169
22   2013-10-04 05:02:56 #151914007: 5959.41068558 @ 95.51% hi: lucky:26.6702 profit: 217.76091885 bal:6177.17160443 n:556 4402.81017449
23   2013-10-04 05:04:58 #151915792: 6177.17161758 @ 95.71% hi: lucky:47.1520 profit: 212.33823588 bal:6389.50985346 n:589 4615.14842352
24   2013-10-04 05:08:04 #151919268: 6389.50987008 @ 95.81% hi: lucky:98.4443 profit: 212.73911449 bal:6602.24898457 n:625 4827.88755463
25   2013-10-04 05:11:39 #151923159: 6602.24886053 @ 95.95% hi: lucky:34.1439 profit: 209.86825940 bal:6812.11711993 n:682 5037.75568999
26   2013-10-04 05:14:24 #151926184: 6812.11702310 @ 96.04% hi: lucky:09.6031 profit: 209.95278458 bal:7022.06980768 n:685 5247.70837774
27   2013-10-04 07:22:09 #152097271: 7016.28891331 @ 96.2% hi: lucky:03.5475 profit:-7016.28891331 bal: 0.00000000 n:748 -1768.58056457

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Quote from: Bizmark13 on June 28, 2014, 08:52:13 AM

Someone actually lost a 98% bet? And 7k BTC on a 96% bet? That's crazy. Seems so unlikely that it would fail.

You lose a 98% bet 2% of the time.
That is, 1 every 50.
If there were just 50 bets per day on the site, on average 1 would still lose, every day.
Do your math.

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Quote from: kuji kiri on June 28, 2014, 09:17:06 AM

They bet such large amounts because these +90% gives them a false sense of security.

Especially since they do it over and over again and win, so it starts to feel like you are printing money. The story behind that bet was that he started as an investor with 2200 BTC. He lost 500 BTC of his investment when Nakowa was on a winning streak. Then he withdrew his remaining investment (2200-500=1700 BTC) and wrote his address on paper.

The paper ended up in the dumpster, and he spent a long time retrieving it. The pain and anguish made him reckless and he made 26 bets with large probabilities of winning increasing his 1700 BTC to 7000 BTC.

He started to withdraw the money, and sometimes in the course of a 2 hour period he put it back into play and on the 27th play he lost it all. His public statement was "Ouch!", and "at least I set a record". Considering those 7K BTC briefly surged to over $7 million and would be worth well over $4 million today, I would consider him a zen Buddhist.

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Someone actually lost a 98% bet? And 7k BTC on a 96% bet? That's crazy. Seems so unlikely that it would fail.

They bet such large amounts because these +90% gives them a false sense of security.

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