Topic: Just remove signatures already. As in delete, disable, gone. - page 17. (Read 44829 times)

When a user joins and wears a signature campaign short one liners are looked upon as spam since it requires no effort to do just write +1 or i agree in a post. It is possible for you to walk around this by removing your signature ad

A negative trust for write a persona opinion?
Are you serious? Signature ad doesn't mean "insubstantial post" we are here in a forum and everyone can post whatever he wants (on topic and constructive).

Maybe, but posting meaningless gibberish on any thread you choose is not the answer. Please stop doing it.

If you remove your post from my thread, I will remove the neg-rep. Thank you.

That was one post.  See, we need to create an incentive system to promote post quality.

I would like to see forums in general have digests of threads.  Maybe instead of reading many posts of which many have been repeats of previous posts and often previous threads.

sdp

I guess that is why posts are open to interpretation then. I read it in a different way, but did not read any of his other posts.

Actually, I have to agree with lobogil, as member sdp just posted a meaningless post on my thread also:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--905210

If he has been such a long term member - he should have learned how to post properly by now.

I think you read what he was trying to say wrong..the dude joined in 2012 and has 216 posts....obviously not a spammer. He is offering up an idea about posting quality.

And is also the reason I just neg-rep'd you & reported your post as spam.....

Yes,

Paid per post signatures create an incentive to post more.  That is why I am posting here.
I could end my post right here and get the same.  Or I could go on and add some interesting ideas.  Bitcoin works as it does because of its incentives and lack of incentives and partly a kind of altruistic charity for our currency.  This forum is the way it is because of the same combination of these three elements.  They may be in a differing proportion though.

Okay, here it goes.  Because Darkcoin has an incentive for people to run full nodes, it has half the number of nodes as Bitcoin does and that is with its much smaller market cap and presumably a much smaller set of users.  There is no benefit for someone who isn't running a pool to run a fullnode in Bitcoin.  It is all about incentives.  By the way, this is a post about signatures.  The incentive to create quality posts, apart from the altruistic charity, stems from the unlikely event that someone might tip your post.  I had left my bitcoin address in my signature and I never got a Satoshi for my posts.  Now, I am putting the advert. signature and I get twenty cents for each of my two cents.

So, we need a voting system.  So, that users can vote how much quality an article has.  Then require those with advertising signatures campaigns to price according to the quality vote score. 

Other people, who follow their reward system better than I do, would have posted two lines without reading the thread probably repeating something already said.

That's my two cents.

sdp

First of all, I take your opinion to be heavily biased based on the fact that you have an ad in your signature. The problem is exactly that even though the conversation I linked to is not obviously spam it has almost zero value and appears to be there only so people can make a few more posts and earn a few more cents.

I do realise new people join the forum. They will have low level accounts that are not practical for signature campaigns. I don't see those spamming nearly as much as Sr. Member accounts. And there is no defending  rehashing the same discussion each time someone asks a question that's been asked a 1000 times before. In such cases the proper answer is to link to an earlier discussion thread and possibly link to an site that explains how to use search on the internet.

Admit it, this forum is bloated with meaningless posts. And signature campaigns are most likely the cause.

Now, please don't take this personal, but looking at your post history:

You made this post at 09:05:45 PM

You made this post at 09:07:39 PM

That is just under 2 minutes. The second thread links to an article. So you read the OP, you read the article, you read the previous replies and you made your own reply in under 2 minutes. I'll leave it to each to judge the value of that reply.

Fact is that you're not even close to some of the worst abusers. Making a post every 2 minutes for, churning out 50+ posts per hour doesn't even seem to be an exception anymore. I call it bullshit.

Hey, totally agree that there's crap posts out there motivated by sig campaign. The example you shared doesn't appear to be bad or spammy conversation. And we have to realize that as new people join the forum, learn about BTC, etc, they're going ot have the same questions that more senior folks like you and others have discussed before.

We should focus on post content improvement. Da Dice has a great approach by coming down hard on spam, not being afraid to deny payment.

I like my signature.

I'd pay Thermos to remove other users' ability to ignore me and/or disable my sig.

 

That one is nothing. I remember seeing multiple threads over the summer of last year where there were literally pages of posts  that were all something along the lines of 'this is great news' (I stopped reading after 3-4 pages of this) in a threads saying that some new merchant is now accepting bitcoin.

Sadly, the way things are going I do see signatures either getting removed, or they will be changed in a way so that paid signature advertising is much less effective.

Yes, it is becoming very annoying. It is also pretty obvious.

Take https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985198.20

20 out of the first 25 posts in this thread have an ad in their signature....

That specific topic has been beaten to death. A thousand times. But it's still making them money.


I was about to raise the "Disallow ads in signatures" thread, but honestly... Just make it disappear.

I don't see anyone insinuating such. One would expect removing the financial incentive of posting drivel to cut down on amount of poor posts.

There will always be trolls with an agenda or too much time. There will always be newbies that ask common questions. When people are no longer being paid to post than there will be a large proportion of copypasta and shot mindless drivel removed because no such incentive exists.

Because it is likely that the future forum will include sigs as the forum operators are incentivised by a high traffic site all these shill accounts create regardless of the quality of posts. Thus we may need to create our own solution. Some people are already taking matters into their own hands and creating self moderated threads to combat this problem --

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-no-ad-sigs-posters-allowed-topic-come-and-not-be-annoyed-by-rubbish-posts-957789

Op, if you think that removing signatures will remove all idiots, dumb people, newbies trolls and other individuals who are not really on point with their posts from this forum - you are deeply mistaken.

It's not the signatures that irk him but the lower quality of content posts he believes a paid signature causes.

Danny,

You can elect to not see users signatures in your profile settings. You should use this option, so you can still benefit from the productive discussion and not be burdened by the flashy advertising.

Ha, you have an ad in your signature!

Don't bitch about people having signature ads, bitch about people making bullshit comments.

Clean up would be great, applying a higher standard would be great, perhaps Moderators need to police the advertisers with signature campaigns, which would get each campaign owner to ensure that their advertisers aren't becoming a burden in the forum.

A lot of us follow the rules, it would be unfair to declare signature advertising "illegal" because of a few abusers that could have been easily banned. And if signature ads are banned yours would have to go too! I don't want that for you, do you?

Many months ago I adopted a shoot first policy on members with ads in their sig.  I began reflexively clicking "ignore" on any poster that had an ad in their sig.  I only un-ignore when I encounter quotes of things a poster has said that indicate that they actually contribute useful, helpful, or interesting things.

This has made bitcointalk a much more useful and much more pleasant place to participate in.