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legendary
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OK - got it now the PH/TH thing

Cheers
hero member
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Thats 32 724.84 TH which is correct. Remember 100Th is 1PH. Kano has just chosen to display the pools combined hash rate as terra hashes which is completely fine.
If it were to be displayed in PH it would be 34.724PH. Note the comma joining the 34 and 724 making it 34 724TH

Don't you mean 1,000TH =1PH?
newbie
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Also - just reporting the error on the top of every Kano.is page

CKPool:     34,724.84THs (This should be PHs)
Shares:     117,281,197,547 (41.62%)
Invalids:     137.5k (0.62%) · 362.3M (0.31%)

Yes its correct in other places - but since every page has this error its just something I thought you might want to know about and might be worthwhile fixing.

Cheers - usukan
 

this is written in US (not euro) format, with the comma being a 3 digit separator.

so as others have noted 34,724  Terra (anything)  == 34.724 Peta (anything) a factor of 1K  

mega (x1000)= giga (x1000)= tera (x1000)= peta

edit > meant an arrow, not greater than

full member
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isn't 5THs about half what an A7 should do?
You been smoking something?

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Kano.A7   5.096k   1s   8,397   35,604,892   7.58THs   26s   0.532%   0.004%   5.24THs

also - Pool has is currently displayed as 32THs not 32 PHs

CKPool:     32,745.50THs
Shares:     941,824,361,119 (334.22%)
Invalids:     1.1M (0.62%) · 3.6G (0.38%)

That says 32PH ...

And that page also says 7.58THs ... yeah funny about the inaccuracy of hash rates Tongue

Also as I said above ... it takes a while to ramp up ...

Also looking at one number when there's a graph of quite a few that says otherwise ...

Interesting - I was thinking that this A7 miner was meant to be serious competition for S9
Kano - thanks for jogging me to check my facts in detail.

so I checked some details

A7 - 6.0THs
S9 - (B23) 14THs

Power
A7 - 1000W (but Canaan advertises 900W)
S9 - 1500W (with +10% added)

Cost
A7 - $888 (Looks like a lucky number to me? Why not when your competition is out of stock.)
S9 - $1,700

W/GH
A7 - 0.167
A9 -  0.107

So it looks like an s9 is significantly more efficient (maybe 30-40% better - thats a lot).
Sure A7 is better than an S7 (0.25W/GH) but quite a way off an S9.

$/GH
A7 - 0.148
A9 -  0.121

So S9 is marginally cheaper to buy per GH

Based on the efficiency alone - I would be swayed to an S9 over an A7. The efficiency difference is huge IMO.  Let me know if I got something wrong please.

Of course they are out of stock - so its not an option for now.

And - not to miss the claims of quality reliability, flexibility and life expectancy of Canaan machines. So this must be factored positively.
Also - claims of shenanigans by Bitmain with software - should be factored I guess
Life expectancy has always factored low for me since miners become uneconomic quickly any how - but they must last 12 months at least.
Some say that life expectancy may be more important in the future as we won't see such rapid efficiency gains in the future - lets see.  
I expect Canaan to tweak a lot more from new batches if they want to really be competitive.

I've seen a lot here complaining about Antminers.  
I must say that maybe I have been lucky with all my machines from S3's to S7's - no S9's (still waiting for resolution of a clear winner here for my next upgrade - and a price drop hopefully).
I have always run all my Ants overclocked to max (as each machine can handle differently) and never had an issue as long as quality and ample power supply PSU's were used.
Also - they are regularly serviced and cleaned out - like every 2 months or so.
Always managed to sell them in perfect working order for a good price.
Had an S7 fall from the top rack in an earthquake the other day - still running perfectly fine on the floor with PSU dangling above in mid air.

So - I'm still leaning to Ants - but watching all.


Also - just reporting the error on the top of every Kano.is page

CKPool:     34,724.84THs (This should be PHs)
Shares:     117,281,197,547 (41.62%)
Invalids:     137.5k (0.62%) · 362.3M (0.31%)

Yes its correct in other places - but since every page has this error its just something I thought you might want to know about and might be worthwhile fixing.

Cheers - usukan



 

Thats 32 724.84 TH which is correct. Remember 1000Th is 1PH. Kano has just chosen to display the pools combined hash rate as terra hashes which is completely fine.
If it were to be displayed in PH it would be 34.724PH. Note the comma joining the 34 and 724 making it 34 724TH
sr. member
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Also - just reporting the error on the top of every Kano.is page

CKPool:     34,724.84THs (This should be PHs)
Shares:     117,281,197,547 (41.62%)
Invalids:     137.5k (0.62%) · 362.3M (0.31%)

Yes its correct in other places - but since every page has this error its just something I thought you might want to know about and might be worthwhile fixing.

You do know 34000TH = 34PH, right?
legendary
Activity: 1590
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isn't 5THs about half what an A7 should do?
You been smoking something?


Interesting - I was thinking that this A7 miner was meant to be serious competition for S9
Kano - thanks for jogging me to check my facts in detail.

so I checked some details

A7 - 6.0THs
S9 - (B23) 14THs

Power
A7 - 1000W (but Canaan advertises 900W)
S9 - 1500W (with +10% added)

Cost
A7 - $888 (Looks like a lucky number to me? Why not when your competition is out of stock.)
S9 - $1,700

W/GH
A7 - 0.167
A9 -  0.107

So it looks like an s9 is significantly more efficient (maybe 30-40% better - thats a lot).
Sure A7 is better than an S7 (0.25W/GH) but quite a way off an S9.

$/GH
A7 - 0.148
A9 -  0.121

So S9 is marginally cheaper to buy per GH

Based on the efficiency alone - I would be swayed to an S9 over an A7. The efficiency difference is huge IMO.  Let me know if I got something wrong please.

Of course they are out of stock - so its not an option for now.

And - not to miss the claims of quality reliability, flexibility and life expectancy of Canaan machines. So this must be factored positively.
Also - claims of shenanigans by Bitmain with software - should be factored I guess
Life expectancy has always factored low for me since miners become uneconomic quickly any how - but they must last 12 months at least.
Some say that life expectancy may be more important in the future as we won't see such rapid efficiency gains in the future - lets see.  
I expect Canaan to tweak a lot more from new batches if they want to really be competitive.

I've seen a lot here complaining about Antminers.  
I must say that maybe I have been lucky with all my machines from S3's to S7's - no S9's (still waiting for resolution of a clear winner here for my next upgrade - and a price drop hopefully).
I have always run all my Ants overclocked to max (as each machine can handle differently) and never had an issue as long as quality and ample power supply PSU's were used.
Also - they are regularly serviced and cleaned out - like every 2 months or so.
Always managed to sell them in perfect working order for a good price.
Had an S7 fall from the top rack in an earthquake the other day - still running perfectly fine on the floor with PSU dangling above in mid air.

So - I'm still leaning to Ants - but watching all.



Cheers - usukan



 
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
So ... I have an A7 mining on the pool right now Smiley
I'll add a menu a bit later so people can see my workers - if anyone is interested.
I'll post here when it's done.

Miner is actually no where near as loud as I expected - and it's 26C here
(and I have it in the laundry which is about 28C after running the dryer an hour ago)
It's hopping around 2300 to 2500 RPM for me - in the middle to low 60's dBA (i.e. certainly under 70 dBA)
It's temperature says it's 31C

Need to let it run for an hour or so to get a reasonable hash rate estimate.

For anyone who uses the default RPi image (as of today) on canaan.io - it's setup for static IP 192.168.0.100
So you may have to login to that and switch it to DHCP if you have more than one - or if you have a lot, set that in the image.

Very cool Kano!  I can't wait to see what you you get with your new toy! Grin
OK it's up and working.
Everyone logged in now has 2 extra options in the 'Workers' menu:
K.Workers and K.Graph - that shows my data below the menu (still your data above top right)

Edit: oh I'll take it down to the garage at some point later and thus it will have a short outage - but the shift will show that after I do it - it seems they start a little slower then climb up for an hour or so to get the speed right.

Edit2: though it's clear from the Workers page, you can separate out the A6s and A7s on my graph by using at the top "all" ".A6*" and ".A7*" and pressing "Update" - though it will forget your settings if you already had some for your workers.

Edit3: moved - so it was off for a bit over half an hour.

I notice the invalids for your A7 is at 0.714% but it has been dropping since I first looked earlier today.
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
I recently moved my AntMiners from one location to another, while they were mining on this pool. Upon moving them back to this location, the links to CKPool pool are now dead. I use the following stratum link: stratum+tcp://nonce.kano.is:27181

This is the recommended link for my device, although I have tried the other links to see if they would work as well. I'm uncertain of what to do in order to fix this.

I was under the impression that the nonce link was for Asicminer Tubes only and you mentioned AntMiners.  This is from the Kano.is home page:

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If you have an Asicminer Tube, you will need to mine to:
stratum+tcp://nonce.kano.is:27181
It won't work properly on any other mining port. Don't point normal miners here.
Your Tube miner stats will show up in your account without their worker name.
legendary
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I recently moved my AntMiners from one location to another, while they were mining on this pool. Upon moving them back to this location, the links to CKPool pool are now dead. I use the following stratum link: stratum+tcp://nonce.kano.is:27181

This is the recommended link for my device, although I have tried the other links to see if they would work as well. I'm uncertain of what to do in order to fix this.
I assume these are Asicminer Tubes, as those are the only devices that will work on that link, and a tube will not work on any of the other links.

I'll have to leave this one for Da Boss.  Cool
newbie
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I recently moved my AntMiners from one location to another, while they were mining on this pool. Upon moving them back to this location, the links to CKPool pool are now dead. I use the following stratum link: stratum+tcp://nonce.kano.is:27181

This is the recommended link for my device, although I have tried the other links to see if they would work as well. I'm uncertain of what to do in order to fix this.
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
I wonder if Avalon would consider donating another few free miners for a giveaway again. I bet they can afford it and it might be nice to get a few more people back on this pool.

I wish they could also lower the price by even $100 per unit because at the current price Im not sure who will be buying any. Its just a little bit too expensive to make sense for me, as always. Maybe they will lower the price soon.

If they lowered the price and accepted BTC for payment, then I'd buy one too.
Apparently they do accept BTC payment after all.
They charge $25 to use BTC as a payment method.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16977145
legendary
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I wonder if Avalon would consider donating another few free miners for a giveaway again. I bet they can afford it and it might be nice to get a few more people back on this pool.

I wish they could also lower the price by even $100 per unit because at the current price Im not sure who will be buying any. Its just a little bit too expensive to make sense for me, as always. Maybe they will lower the price soon.

If they lowered the price and accepted BTC for payment, then I'd buy one too.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Block by Aminer with 54.67TH/s!  This is his 2nd Kano block and our 2nd of the day!  Cheesy Cheesy

The Safari Kano with his bullwhip worked!  Grin
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Haha! Does this remind anyone of anyone?  I couldn't resist!  Cheesy

It's time to roll out the blocks!

sr. member
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I wonder if Avalon would consider donating another few free miners for a giveaway again. I bet they can afford it and it might be nice to get a few more people back on this pool.

I wish they could also lower the price by even $100 per unit because at the current price Im not sure who will be buying any. Its just a little bit too expensive to make sense for me, as always. Maybe they will lower the price soon.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
I'm pleased to announce that I've received an ava7 gratis as well from canaan for continued support of this device in cgminer and am already running it on the master cgminer code on this pool.

Alright!  Now the complete brain trust is covered!  Let us know good things Grin
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
BTClock! by sashaandrey70 with 93Th! First block today!

yep and my stuck transaction is fixed thank you sashaandrey70 and thanks kano
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BTClock! by sashaandrey70 with 93Th! First block today!
legendary
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Sweet that you got an A7!

How are the temps and noise so far Kano?
Also, what about power consumption?

I am waiting for my units to point them here.
Well while I had it up here in the laundry it was ok - no jet engine noises.
Now I've moved it down to the garage ... no idea long term how much noise it makes ... but once it got to over 6THs the fan was noticeable, but still not jet engine levels.

Power is around the 1000W mark - mine went over to ~1070W but I only had 4 plugs in it.
In the garage I connected 8 plugs (4 leads with 2 plugs each) and it hadn't got to 1000W yet when I went and turned on the old A6s.
So somewhere around 1000W - but it takes a while to ramp up - and that's actually to do with 16nm chips and making sure they're all ok.
I wont be surprised if people find the A7s way more reliable than the recent Bitmain problem miner - but we'll see.
full member
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isn't 5THs about half what an A7 should do?
You been smoking something?

Quote
Kano.A7   5.096k   1s   8,397   35,604,892   7.58THs   26s   0.532%   0.004%   5.24THs

also - Pool has is currently displayed as 32THs not 32 PHs

CKPool:     32,745.50THs
Shares:     941,824,361,119 (334.22%)
Invalids:     1.1M (0.62%) · 3.6G (0.38%)

That says 32PH ...

And that page also says 7.58THs ... yeah funny about the inaccuracy of hash rates Tongue

Also as I said above ... it takes a while to ramp up ...

Also looking at one number when there's a graph of quite a few that says otherwise ...

Sweet that you got an A7!

How are the temps and noise so far Kano?
Also, what about power consumption?

I am waiting for my units to point them here.
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