Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 1612. (Read 5352322 times)

BTC Guild used to offer a private IP for rentals and higher hash rates.  I know I've had to end 10 rentals in the past two days for bad stats and going offline too much.  If I were mining my own they would be steady with almost no downtime.  

I was also screwed by slush, bigtime.  Mining loyally 2012-2015.  Held on way to long.

Agree, I got screwed by Slush

An approach like this, is exactly what I was saying should have been done by slush if he gave a crap at all about his miners, which I got flak for from his fanboys. Out the culprits, redistribute the btc, and all is made good in the world. You are doing it properly, and for this I commend you. Keep up the good work and let us know if there is anything specifically we should look out for (hardware, firmware revs, ip addresses to watch, etc)

Yeah I'll delete any questions asking "Is it me?"

If you are missing 4-6 payouts after the next 4 have been sent, which I still haven't completed yet, then you probably are one of them

If you are asking "Is it me?" just coz you want me to answer that question, don't.

Glad things are rolling again.  Sounds like a shitty problem to troubleshoot.  I mean you almost have to make it so the code prevents the issue full stop or lock out new accounts.  Anyone can make a new pool identity and change IP addresses...

Let me know if you see any issues on my account.  I can always end the rentals of any problem rigs.  Sorry for being one the people bugging out, though I can't promise I won't be tripping again.  I'll try to save a little coin so I have a bit more breathing room.  I can't wait for the halving when I can get some new gear and be a real miner again.    I just can't risk the ROI time on a profitable rig purchase right now. 

Kmstudio was last block paid
Kano, thanks for all your investigating, I know it is very time consuming.

Do we know if this is real miners or rentals doing bad things?
Maybe we should have rental accounts and hardware accounts.

Thanks for the update. I assume it is rather hard to see what gear they were using...?

What error, what username ...

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if it is $10'000 or $0.1.

As kano wrote about a year ago:

So IF a withholding attack took place, the pool op has several choices. He can do nothing, for his risk is 0%. Or he can investigate in favor of all miners who were affected equally.

I acknowledge that the stress factor for someone who has to give a verbal valium to his partners is bigger, however, knowing the pool and its operator, it should be clear that the coins will come. And it would make sense to inform partners that there is _always_ a risk in mining.

Well, that's a few pages of 'interesting' comments

I was just gonna do a quick click though all these pages since 'last night' since I'm working on the next 4 payouts that are overdue, but then decided I better post some more details rather than wait until after I finish processing the payouts.

Yes I've sent out (and all but one person) has received the payouts for blocks 402342 and 402347
We confirmed the 2 payouts

Over the last 2 days I've been doing a lot of work on the share tracking to determine if miners are doing the wrong thing
(intentionally or unintentionally)
This is of course related to the stuff organofcorti mentioned and I posted about his comments here also.
I've found a few miners, 2 are pretty much certain, and the rest very likely, using hardware that doesn't mine properly.
They all started mining in January, their total payouts since then have been less than 1 block.
These are miners that have the same problem as that 'other' pool.
I wonder if they just moved their hardware here, from there?
The pool logs ALL sorts of information that I will go through later to see if there is any correlation between them all
(and any other miners) Then I'll contact them some time after that ...

At this point I'm going to stop all their payouts, so they end up in their 'dust', until they find blocks.
Also, the block finding luck will need to be better than 100%, since they need to cover the pool's loss of their payouts they've received.
i.e. they have about a 2/3 chance of finding a block in time to cover their ... actions.

See, I see it as: if I ask for the BTC back, that they've been paid, I doubt anyone would give it back and blame their choice of hardware on ... well no idea ... but blaming it on the pool is not gonna work for me.
If they run away, then the dust building up in their accounts will eventually be redistributed based on the payout it should have been in, back to everyone else as 'adjustments' later once that is possible.
It's not a lot of BTC, single digits on each account, and total is, as I said, less than a block.

This is also now the next code change I've got to do, a way to simply flag an account to be in this state of no 'auto' payout so I don't have to manually intervene with these accounts during the payout process.

I'll post more details at some later time, but yeah I better get back to these 4 payouts overdue since last night.

Why am I getting an error when I try to input my payout address?

multipool?  but it was a while ago

That's interesting.  That EXACT same thing happened on Bitminter some time ago.  Big miner, not hitting blocks, custom software was blamed.  I don't believe it went on for as long though.

 We are good and we will continue to be good, the last 100 blocks in 26 days should be enough to tell you, happy mining.

Imagine 6 of these blocks x 2 account.  
401172   4/Mar 22:25   25.67942554   833.339G   32hr 52m 28s   30.24PHs   7.90%   65.803G   2,388.06THs   2.02773206

Of course the current ones that were on hold is way less as our luck have been crap.  My partners and I was actually pushing over 7500TH via my account and DROID during that nasty block which net us next to nothing but that's a different story.  We accept that as a risk of PPLNS, we just want to make sure payment is on time.  I don't think there's any drama queen about that.  If you're thousands short, you would be messaging all day too.  
Now if you use ROI calculator, you can see just 1 day of normal PPS payout for 7500TH is almost $10,000 so you can see the opportunity loss for me to decide against my partner's advice to continue pushing thru.  So again, when someone raise a concern, let the Pool Operator handles it unless we have a solution or tip to offer.  This is especially critical to our new pool members who may not have the same solid history.  

So many people in the USA don't know what BTC is, I have tried on many occasions to get people around me involved.

Spot on.  It's like if you're paid once a month, you know you're ok waiting a month.  However if that check comes in 2 months late, different story.  Using your business terms, if you're supposed to be collecting on Net 30 and got paid on Net 90 or Net 180, you may be screwed depending on the line of business and how leveraged you are, so in return you may expect late fees or other compensations.

Many of us supported Kano way before it was a popular pool, less than 4PH which is less than my current combine hashing power with my many partners today.  We stayed, thru the good times and bad times.  Fubly and I actually worked very hard to try convince more big players to push the pool hashing to 40PH+ during that nasty 600+ block to get us out of the dry spell faster.  My partners and I were pushing over 7500PH combined during that nasty duration. My partners always asked me why I like Kano pool so much when there's better more profitable guaranteed PPS, reverse rentals etc, vs higher variance here.  I just tell them, because we have the best damn pool community and support.   So as a community we should support each other by providing useful supporting info like referencing what Kano is working on if it's hidden too many pages back.  Don't speculate and don't make silly remarks when a member is concern about a very bad delay or missing payment.  They have a right to know and hearing it from the pool operator carries more weight then "Chill, relax, it will come."  No pool is perfect and every process can be improved but in order for that to happen we need to raise all the issues and concerns so that Kano / CK can be aware and address those issues.  

*****ON a happier Note................we're getting back to the FAST track again, let's hope the blocks keep coming in......................**********

My lawyer takes bitcoin and so does the deli down the street.  In due time.

That's great I would love to pay my accountant in BTC, employees also.