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Yep. Minimum order directly from Canaan is 60 units.

I've already done business with Minerwarez (Washington, U.S.) and am pleased. There's now another North American Distributor (Blokforge) and I'm going to try test them out next.

I looked at their website, they are expensive (Blokforge).
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on eBay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).

Availability as well. You couldn't get an S9 from Bitmain either they were only releasing the L models for Eth and Ltn and or they were selling them for BCH. Then Canaan released the A7 and people slowly adopted them because they got tired of waiting for s9's. problem is, neither company can supply enough miners and frankly, they both are probably using every miner they make to mine their own BTC.

I don't care what anyone says, but I am a firm believer that's the case. I don't expect it to change for a while. Every now and then they will release a batch to make us think they are trying but they will be limited, go faster than most of us can purchase them etc. Normally, when supply overruns retail the companies will limit the purchase of an item to a few per customer. I don't believe these companies do that. So say they do make 1000 miners for sale. They put them up on their site and two people purchase them all. Leaving the rest of us out of luck.
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Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...

One of my two S9s had one hash board stop working. After some research I found I could get it replaced for about $600.00 . At the time the S9 was selling for under $1200. Needless to say I have mined on with only 2/3rds of one of my S9s. I probably should buy a 1000 Watt power supply to power the 2/3rd S9 and free up its power supply for use with a 741/761/A8.



This is voodoo - had a couple S9's with same problem. One board (always chain 6) either dead or missing chips on reboot.


This works for me - not sure why?


Turn off all power for a few mins

Reboot with no internet connection

Let it cycle for about 30 mins - it will start up and shut down repeatedly.

Connect internet.

Magic - it runs for about 2 weeks above 13.5TH/s.  

Sometimes repeat a couple of times till you get the correct performance - be patient - wait at least 24 hrs till you decide.  
If GH/S(ideal) for chain 6 (or any chain) is in the 2k range - repeat immediately.  All 3 chains should be above 4k.

Then eventually (after about 2 weeks with 100 x HW errors of the other 2 chains) chain 6 board goes down over a couple of hours in GH/S(ideal) to the 2k region.

Just repeat and it recovers - all good for another couple of weeks.

I'd be very interested to know if it works for you - and if anyone might have an idea why?


NEVER return your miner to Bitmain China (via Hong Kong) on warranty - they take over a month and send somebody else faulty shit miner back - dirty full of mosquitos from Taiwan, not fixed and with same chain 6 problem.  Its just a Swaparoo (an Aussie term that CAN mean just keep moving things around, look busy and trying to help - but don't do anything useful).  Support goes DEAD eventually if you keep complaining that your WARRANTY replacement has the same problem you started with.

Cheers - usukan

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Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...

One of my two S9s had one hash board stop working. After some research I found I could get it replaced for about $600.00 . At the time the S9 was selling for under $1200. Needless to say I have mined on with only 2/3rds of one of my S9s. I probably should buy a 1000 Watt power supply to power the 2/3rd S9 and free up its power supply for use with a 741/761/A8.
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...
Does Miner/Warez have the same policy as Caanan for purchase. I was reading from Caanan that I need an import license and a business license. I am essentially a hobby miner, this is not even close to my main business. Can anyone share their experience with Minerwarez and their requirements? Thanks and we are @100% of DIFF, Come On Block!!! The Bitcoin Kabookie Dance Session was performed in support of this next block. Mine On.
I think the limit for buying from Canaan direct is a pallet of miners.
I wish I had the power overhead for 60 miners (a pallet), but like many, I am limited in that regard. It seems Minerwarez, as a US Distributor, can meet my needs. How much power the A8 consumes and what the TH/s spec is, will dictate my max capacity. Mine On!! BTW thanks for posting the Table Above, being a Math guy, I can appreciate the data, the probabilities are the probabilities. Mine On. Thx
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...
Does Miner/Warez have the same policy as Caanan for purchase. I was reading from Caanan that I need an import license and a business license. I am essentially a hobby miner, this is not even close to my main business. Can anyone share their experience with Minerwarez and their requirements? Thanks and we are @100% of DIFF, Come On Block!!! The Bitcoin Kabookie Dance Session was performed in support of this next block. Mine On.
I think the limit for buying from Canaan direct is a pallet of miners.

Yep. Minimum order directly from Canaan is 60 units.

I've already done business with Minerwarez (Washington, U.S.) and am pleased. There's now another North American Distributor (Blokforge) and I'm going to try test them out next.
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...
Does Miner/Warez have the same policy as Caanan for purchase. I was reading from Caanan that I need an import license and a business license. I am essentially a hobby miner, this is not even close to my main business. Can anyone share their experience with Minerwarez and their requirements? Thanks and we are @100% of DIFF, Come On Block!!! The Bitcoin Kabookie Dance Session was performed in support of this next block. Mine On.
I think the limit for buying from Canaan direct is a pallet of miners.
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...
Does Miner/Warez have the same policy as Caanan for purchase. I was reading from Caanan that I need an import license and a business license. I am essentially a hobby miner, this is not even close to my main business. Can anyone share their experience with Minerwarez and their requirements? Thanks and we are @100% of DIFF, Come On Block!!! The Bitcoin Kabookie Dance Session was performed in support of this next block. Mine On.


You would buy from MinerWarez instead of Caanan.  Caanan would be more for the bigger purchases, not hobby miners like yourself.
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Ok, we're right at the 100% mark, time to do some limbo!!!
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Since I've not posted it for a while ... here's the CDF table Smiley
Code:
 1  0.39346934028737   50.000%  1 in 1.6
 2  0.63212055882856  100.000%  1 in 2.7
 3  0.77686983985157  150.000%  1 in 4.5
 4  0.86466471676339  200.000%  1 in 7.4
 5  0.95021293163214  300.000%  1 in 20.1
 6  0.98168436111127  400.000%  1 in 54.6
 7  0.99326205300091  500.000%  1 in 148.4
 8  0.99752124782333  600.000%  1 in 403.4
 9  0.99872735771441  666.666%  1 in 785.8
10  0.99908811803445  700.000%  1 in 1096.6
11  0.99966453737210  800.000%  1 in 2981.0
12  0.99987659019591  900.000%  1 in 8103.1
What line 2 says, is that we expect, on average, 1 in 2.7 blocks, to be over 100%
What line 5 says, is that we expect, on average, 1 in 20.1 blocks, to be over 300%
etc.

It's something that a lot of people don't realise about the expected results when finding blocks Smiley
Just thought I'd post it again for the newer members Smiley
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...
Does Miner/Warez have the same policy as Caanan for purchase. I was reading from Caanan that I need an import license and a business license. I am essentially a hobby miner, this is not even close to my main business. Can anyone share their experience with Minerwarez and their requirements? Thanks and we are @100% of DIFF, Come On Block!!! The Bitcoin Kabookie Dance Session was performed in support of this next block. Mine On.
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...

Knock on wood, my one s9 got repaired in Colorado fairly quickly.  Wasn't going to complain about it, have had much worse service from other industries.   
A new miner needs to come out soon, and I'm betting that quite a few of them have received some quality burn time here at kano's pool.   We will know very very soon!
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...

I must say my buying experience @ minerwarez was good, so if/when I buy more miners it would be from them or another official distributor
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Well with Bitmain where you have to pay 3 months in advance for an S9 ... that's 3 months of lost mining ... which is a VERY long time.

If instead you can get a miner much faster ... then that also needs to be factored in.

At the moment neither of them can supply miners quickly, but a few months back most people ignored the fact you could get an A7 when you couldn't get an S9.

We'll see what happens when the A8 is released ...

Then of course, as mentioned above, the RMA on an S9 is pretty much a joke ... so you gotta hope your S9 never fails ...
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
Bitmain's been ahead but they have horrible customer support and warranty that exists but also sucks. I remember having to ship miners back to China for repairs, etc. Bitmainwarranty in Colorado does repairs now too but they are paid IIRC. Reliability really is a killer for the S9. Avalon units are rock-solid as well and you're paying for a quality product instead of one from a company that is trying to destroy Bitcoin for their own profits (see S2X, Bitcoin Cash). The A7 is also available for cheaper and actually in stock in some places, Parallelminer has the A7 in stock for ~$1800 which isn't a horrible deal the way things are right now.
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What would be the reason that one would purchase this unit over the S9? Reliability is much better or so I have read, but power consumption is not. Would it be the fact that bitmain is not months behind and paying the scalper prices on ebay is absurd? Not trying to start anything here. Just attempting to confirm what I believe the reasons are based on my research. All in all given the retail pricing of both units wouldn't the S9 be the better machine 9 (not considering reliability).
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It says it has the same chip in it as the 741
A3212
https://canaan.io/product/avalonminer-741/

Thanks, Kano! Maybe this is their way to clear out their old chips while also releasing the new miner on the new chip.
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