La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 418.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 28, 2024, 09:34:44 PM

We could see a real surprise where Osasuna beat the likes of Barcelona. We know that the strongest team in the current season in La Liga is Barcelona who are at the top of the points table, this strong team is against Osasuna and will bring the result no one expected but the Barcelona team lost by 4/2 goals between the two teams. If Barcelona had the majority of the ball but the defense of the opposition team was excellent due to which Barcelona could only score two goals. However, Osasuna beat Barcelona in this match, they collected three points and are sixth in the points table, but they will fight for more excitement in the next matches. But most people bet on Barcelona and they lost, and we definitely saw a surprise in this match.

Many people are surprised by the defeat suffered by Barcelona against Osasuna. But it's not for me. I am not surprised; Barcelona played many of their B team players.

There were so many unfamiliar names, such as Sergi Dominguez and Gerard Martin. They have no experience against a strong team in La Liga. It makes their defense very atrocious in this game. And their opponent is fully exploring the weakness in their defence. Then they being destroyed by their opponent huge scores.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 28, 2024, 02:22:31 PM

I think injuries made Real Madrid lose those points, and because of that we have seen them not do that greatly, I understand that it is not that simple to adjust to a team without many important players. I think it's clear that we are going to see Barcelona do better because even when missing a player, they replace very well and not have the same type of issues.

Real built a team that is top heavy, their starters are awesome, but when more than a few bench players start to play, the yare not that good at all. So, a very healthy Real Madrid is 100 times better than any other team, even Barcelona, but the moment you have more than 2 players injured from the starters, you end up with a much worse Real Madrid suddenly.

Every coach has a different view when it comes to managing a team and it's their duty to find solutions when important players in the team are injured. Real Madrid had a not so impressive start to the season because they lost some key players but as time went on they found their rhythm again. The defeat that Barcelona got against Osasuna was a surprise because they should have won that game.

There are eight players who are injured, making it difficult for the coach to rotate and the defeat is undeniable because Barcelona lost many important players. The next match will face Young Boys in the Champions League even though their strength is weak, but Barcelona must be aware of the possibilities that will occur.

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Barcelona's winning streak was finally broken by Osasuna who performed impressively last night. I didn't expect this club to beat Barcelona with a landslide score of 4:2. I think Barcelona's back line was a little careless. They looked less focused, which made Osasuna take advantage of the momentum to score as many goals as possible. They even led 2:0 in the first half and in the second half Osasuna added 2 more goals and managed to beat Barcelona who were only able to reply with 2 goals. What a surprising performance.

By the way, tonight there will be a big match between Atletico Madrid vs Real Madrid, Real Madrid must win if they want to reduce the gap with Barcelona, but I don't think it's easy because Atletico Madrid will also not let Real Madrid get full points in this match. I also find it difficult to predict who will win this match, but I bet on BTTS, most likely they will play aggressively attacking each other.

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Quote from: leonair on September 28, 2024, 05:01:25 PM

Yeah I also can't believe how Barselona played such a bad match. 4-2 against teams like Osasuna. It was by no means expected. Barcelona are still Top 1 in the points table but they probably won't be on top for long if they keep playing easy matches like this.

The 100% record since being coached by Hansi Flick finally collapsed, Barcelona suffered their first defeat of the season to Osasuna 4-2. The poor performance shown by Barcelona was triggered by the rotation carried out by Hansi Flick, he was very confident in the abilities of the squad he had prepared, but it turned out that his strategy and plans did not work perfectly. Playing Sergi Dominguez and Gerard Martin was one of the factors that caused their goal to concede 4 times and was the biggest mistake made by Flick because the two young players have not reached the level of Balde and Inigo Martinez.

Quote from: leonair on September 28, 2024, 05:01:25 PM

Real Madrid is waiting for this opportunity. Barcelona lost an easy 3 points today. this is a negative sign for Barcelona. I was not prepared to see such a performance from Barcelona

Real Madrid will try to capitalize on Barcelona mistakes to close the gap to one point, but the opponents they face this time are not easy to beat, a draw is fair for both teams because Atletico have also been in great form this season and they will not allow their rivals to steal three points at their home.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 28, 2024, 10:37:21 PM

This is the only worst match during the early season, Osasuna should not be tough opponent for Barcelona but they were unable to beat them and I admit Osasuna game was quite surprising by playing very well since the first half started.
I thought Barcelona would continue to maintain good results by winning again in row but all that was broken by Osasuna, haha many were disappointed with the results of this match and I had several bets that became one multi-bet slip but had to fail because of Barcelona defeat.

It's not Osasuna is strong, but Barcelona play with weaker players.

Torre, Victor, Garcia, Dominguez, Cubarsi, Martin and Pena, they're just a B class players. It's not really surprising to be honest, Barcelona will suffer many lose and draw in the next few upcoming match until Olmo is recovered from the injury.

At least Szczesny will able to play in the next match in Champions League, this should minimize Barcelona to conceded many goals.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 28, 2024, 05:43:42 PM

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Barcelona's impressive start to the season was a very good thing to see but I was always concerned if they will be able to continue to hold on their incredible start but their result at Osasuna tonight in my own opinion is a strong indication that Barcelona is unlikely to remain consistent with their good results. There's every possibility that they'll learn from the result of tonight's game and pick up their pieces and there's also a possibility that this might be a beginning for their downfall. Pena was poor tonight for Barcelona and I think the club will have to find a better replacement for him since Andre Ter Stegan will be out for a long time.

Barcelona lacked team play and lost control of the match after the second goal. The whole of first half, they had only one shot on target, a poor performance no viewer expected of Barcelona. Subsequently, the second half turned out interesting and entertaining, but the defeat today, though unusual, will strengthen Barca to prepare better against bigger teams in their upcoming features. Osasuna on the other flip, planned well for a competent opponent, and came out victorious.

The players really celebrated the astonishing game play, after the match and if they maintain it they could win Barca again.

This is the only worst match during the early season, Osasuna should not be tough opponent for Barcelona but they were unable to beat them and I admit Osasuna game was quite surprising by playing very well since the first half started.
I thought Barcelona would continue to maintain good results by winning again in row but all that was broken by Osasuna, haha many were disappointed with the results of this match and I had several bets that became one multi-bet slip but had to fail because of Barcelona defeat.

But for the future I not sure Osasuna can achieve another surprising victory like this, especially if the opponent is another big team like Real Madrid because Osasuna victory today was not because they were really strong but because they were lucky and Barcelona game was declining.
Team like this always make me skeptical, maybe few times they have unexpected surprises but they will never be able to survive consistently and stably.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 28, 2024, 04:05:05 PM

To be simple and clear I can say Barcelona is clearly not strong enough to play in the Champions League and they won't be able to beat the stronger team considering the situation in this tournament and we all know why, That's because Barcelona doesn't have superstar players and experienced players in this team and Flick had to use the young talents to have a cheaper team and avoid spending too much money and the bad financial situation of Barcelona is the main reason for it.
They have Robert Lewandoski who can have a good performance, but Barcelona has no other players to fill the place of Lewandoski in this team and there is the same situation for Lamal.

These are the exact words of someone who never played football. You need players who are dedicated, passionate, discipline enough committed to the team, and ready to fight for themselves likewise having togetherness within themselves. I can remember when Sir Alex utilize the class of 1992 set of players and when Pep Guardiola utilized La Ma Sia players like young, Xavi Hernandez, Iniesta, Busquet and the rest. You don't need superstars to win games man. They lost the last Champions League fixture they had against Monaco, you can see that all Hansi Flick tryna do is rest his side so they can win the next game comfortably at home against Young boys. It's good to see he's prioritizing the Champions League Competition.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 28, 2024, 09:34:44 PM

We could see a real surprise where Osasuna beat the likes of Barcelona.

A win for Osasuna is a shock and a big win with result of 4 - 2 is a big shock. Barcelona began this season with very good defense system, that helped them to get only 5 conceded goals in first 7 matches. But in this single match with Osasuna, they got 4 conceded goals, it's really big shock.

Quote from: JeffBrad12 on September 28, 2024, 09:05:48 PM

Flick's heavy rotation is the main cause of Barcelona's loss. I get that he was resting the players who have been playing non-stop. But resting all of them at once is a stupid decision. He should go for 60%40% rotation to ensure his team still remains balanced.

Life is not easy and rotation is necessary to help Barcelona having a strong and healthy squad in a long season. If they win against Osasuna, Flick will receive massive applause, but in fact they lost and he is receiving massive critics.

It's the debut squad of Barcelona and I don't think Flick did rotated all main players in this match.

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We could see a real surprise where Osasuna beat the likes of Barcelona. We know that the strongest team in the current season in La Liga is Barcelona who are at the top of the points table, this strong team is against Osasuna and will bring the result no one expected but the Barcelona team lost by 4/2 goals between the two teams. If Barcelona had the majority of the ball but the defense of the opposition team was excellent due to which Barcelona could only score two goals. However, Osasuna beat Barcelona in this match, they collected three points and are sixth in the points table, but they will fight for more excitement in the next matches. But most people bet on Barcelona and they lost, and we definitely saw a surprise in this match.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 28, 2024, 05:43:42 PM

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Barcelona's impressive start to the season was a very good thing to see but I was always concerned if they will be able to continue to hold on their incredible start but their result at Osasuna tonight in my own opinion is a strong indication that Barcelona is unlikely to remain consistent with their good results. There's every possibility that they'll learn from the result of tonight's game and pick up their pieces and there's also a possibility that this might be a beginning for their downfall. Pena was poor tonight for Barcelona and I think the club will have to find a better replacement for him since Andre Ter Stegan will be out for a long time.

Barcelona lacked team play and lost control of the match after the second goal. The whole of first half, they had only one shot on target, a poor performance no viewer expected of Barcelona. Subsequently, the second half turned out interesting and entertaining, but the defeat today, though unusual, will strengthen Barca to prepare better against bigger teams in their upcoming features. Osasuna on the other flip, planned well for a competent opponent, and came out victorious.

The players really celebrated the astonishing game play, after the match and if they maintain it they could win Barca again.

A surprising defeat occurred, Barcelona forced too much to give time to young players at the beginning of the match, this is Flick's carelessness in my opinion, he did not play their main squad and tried with some young players but it didn't get better, the situation got worse after conceding 2 goals in the first half and Osasuna played with enough integrity in the next round, and in my opinion they should have been able to avoid a defeat like this so that there would be no corner kicks later, of course Flick gave time to young players but it seems he is not ready Dominguez.

It seems that Barcelona or Flick must think carefully in determining the players for the next match because it is very dangerous for their current position, Osasuna is not a team to be underestimated, they made Flick think differently about them, the score became 4-2, a good victory for Osasuna.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 28, 2024, 04:32:38 PM

I didn't expect such a score from Barcelona. Losing to Osasuna is one thing, conceding 4 goals is another. Almost every Osasuna shot on goal was a goal. I think Barca needs to solve the goalkeeper problem as soon as possible, they can't spend the whole season with Pena. I didn't think they would be looking for Ter Stegen so much. If you don't have a very good goalkeeper your chances of winning the championship are seriously reduced.
The rotation also might have had this result. Normally, Flick would start with Yamal and Raphinha. He couldn't play the game he wanted when he had to play a lot of kids like Victor and Martin at the same time. It's an important loss, but for a team that started 7/7, losing one game is an affordable luxury. They will learn from the mistakes.

Flick's heavy rotation is the main cause of Barcelona's loss. I get that he was resting the players who have been playing non-stop. But resting all of them at once is a stupid decision. He should go for 60%40% rotation to ensure his team still remains balanced.

As for this game, it's proven that some of their players aren't ready yet to play. Torres has shown no improvement in his performance; he should be benched. Gerard Martín delivers nothing to me; he has reached his peak. Dominguez should be back on the B team; he's not ready yet for La Liga; he's not first-team level. There are so many players who are not yet ready to be the subs for the main team.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on September 28, 2024, 06:52:34 PM

I knew Barcelona wouldn’t go the whole season unbeaten due to their thin squad but I never knew it would be against this club or even soon. But sadly that’s how football is, they need to actually move on and avoid dropping any points again before the el classico to stay on top. Today it was the whole team that actually were bad and not Pena only, I knew they will miss Ter Stegen because he saves them point with his goalkeeping skills. Barcelona have actually brought in Sychezney the polish international who just retired from football but had to come back to honor Barcelona call. I think him and Pena would actually be ok for the club till next then.

I don’t know maybe I should blame Hansi Flick for the rotation or not. To me it is a two way something he would need to do that sometimes as the competition continues but is this the right time to consider such a decision I will say No because this team has played really long with each others through introducing them second half. The changes to the squad was what made the game like this but it is very much part of football they can bounce back again.

What are your thoughts on Hansi Flick style of game in Camp Nou? I'm pleased with his pattern because it suits in for every potential young players, he's not selective like the rest, he concentrates on improving his team this season, Barcelona ranks first on the La Liga table. Although they've experienced their first defeats of the season against an average side, this is something we ought not to bother about because bouncing back to top form is not a problem.

My analytical data for Barcelona was disrupted following their shocking defeats against Osasuna. This is an average club that have fought so hard to grab a winning against Barcelona since 2012 and today, they grabbed their victory. Barcelona headcoach, Hansi Flick have done his own part as manager incharge and carrying his managerial role upon himself. Taking the club to the next level and he's completely improving in all areas. You're even going far, Barcelona can not keep the unbeaten run in La Liga because there's presence of other competitive clubs, these teams are not relenting because they want to earn points on the table.

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I didn't expect such a score from Barcelona. Losing to Osasuna is one thing, conceding 4 goals is another. Almost every Osasuna shot on goal was a goal. I think Barca needs to solve the goalkeeper problem as soon as possible, they can't spend the whole season with Pena. I didn't think they would be looking for Ter Stegen so much. If you don't have a very good goalkeeper your chances of winning the championship are seriously reduced.
The rotation also might have had this result. Normally, Flick would start with Yamal and Raphinha. He couldn't play the game he wanted when he had to play a lot of kids like Victor and Martin at the same time. It's an important loss, but for a team that started 7/7, losing one game is an affordable luxury. They will learn from the mistakes.

Well, the defeat was quite surprising because from the beginning they were quite favorites and the probability of winning even though playing away was still very large in this match but they actually had to surrender with a fairly large score.

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To be honest, the defeat was quite surprising. I was not expecting such a kind of poor performance by Barcelona. Beyond any doubt, Barcelona were the favorite for winning, and everyone is expecting that Barcelona will be the victorious with quite a huge goal margin but unfortunately they get the defeated by a lay club with huge margin of goals.

From the tactical instructions point of view Barcelona are perfectly eligible for the match. Personally, I also believe that Barcelona will be get the victory against Osasuna in quite impressive style but my prediction is wrong. But anyway Barcelona played the game so poorly 4-2 is the end result. All the blam goes to one player which is Inaki Pena. He just play the worst game of his career. Every shot of Osasuna goes to goals very easily.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 28, 2024, 04:32:38 PM

I didn't expect such a score from Barcelona. Losing to Osasuna is one thing, conceding 4 goals is another. Almost every Osasuna shot on goal was a goal. I think Barca needs to solve the goalkeeper problem as soon as possible, they can't spend the whole season with Pena. I didn't think they would be looking for Ter Stegen so much. If you don't have a very good goalkeeper your chances of winning the championship are seriously reduced.
The rotation also might have had this result. Normally, Flick would start with Yamal and Raphinha. He couldn't play the game he wanted when he had to play a lot of kids like Victor and Martin at the same time. It's an important loss, but for a team that started 7/7, losing one game is an affordable luxury. They will learn from the mistakes.

I knew Barcelona wouldn’t go the whole season unbeaten due to their thin squad but I never knew it would be against this club or even soon. But sadly that’s how football is, they need to actually move on and avoid dropping any points again before the el classico to stay on top. Today it was the whole team that actually were bad and not Pena only, I knew they will miss Ter Stegen because he saves them point with his goalkeeping skills. Barcelona have actually brought in Sychezney the polish international who just retired from football but had to come back to honor Barcelona call. I think him and Pena would actually be ok for the club till next then.

I don’t know maybe I should blame Hansi Flick for the rotation or not. To me it is a two way something he would need to do that sometimes as the competition continues but is this the right time to consider such a decision I will say No because this team has played really long with each others through introducing them second half. The changes to the squad was what made the game like this but it is very much part of football they can bounce back again.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 28, 2024, 05:21:19 PM

Barcelona's impressive start to the season was a very good thing to see but I was always concerned if they will be able to continue to hold on their incredible start but their result at Osasuna tonight in my own opinion is a strong indication that Barcelona is unlikely to remain consistent with their good results. There's every possibility that they'll learn from the result of tonight's game and pick up their pieces and there's also a possibility that this might be a beginning for their downfall. Pena was poor tonight for Barcelona and I think the club will have to find a better replacement for him since Andre Ter Stegan will be out for a long time.

There are a number of things that made Barcelona lose points from Osasuna, one of which is the loss of Ter Stegen which has quite an impact on the back line. In addition, the starting XI that Flick fielded was also not very complete because a number of mainstay players were also not in good condition. The defeat suffered proved that Blaugrana's strength was starting to decline and Flick seemed difficult to fix it because the crisis in the goalkeeper position must be fixed at least until the transfer market reopens in January. Then if Pena continues to be relied on, it is quite risky and I predict that El Barca will find it difficult to maintain the top position in the standings again.

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Quote from: legendbtc on September 27, 2024, 06:59:27 PM

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Remember Real are in good form, but Atletico were the last team to beat them in La Liga. This win will give them confidence. Simeone's side have not lost a game in La Liga this season, and they are confident they can take points from their city rivals. In particular, Atletico has the advantage of playing at home at the Metropolitano stadium.

Surely the match will not be easy for both of them. There are many things that make this season, both have their own pluses and minuses. And now it's time for them to show their skills as a team to find out who is more ready and strong on the field. Ah I can't wait for it, because this will also affect the position in the La Liga standing table.

Quote from: legendbtc on September 28, 2024, 05:52:33 PM

Yes, Pena played the full 90 minutes but only made one save. The Spanish goalkeeper's expected save percentage was even negative. Because they could not show stability and defensive ability, Pena and his teammates lost 4 goals.

bad Barcelona, they lost Ter Stegen and for the first time his replacement goalkeeper should have shown his skills, but instead. Now it is clear why Barcelona decided to take a new goalkeeper for them.

After the match, do you agree with this rating player?

Source: Iñaki Pena is the worst player with a rating of 6.1

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 28, 2024, 05:21:19 PM

Quote from: LGD2Business on September 28, 2024, 04:32:38 PM

I didn't expect such a score from Barcelona. Losing to Osasuna is one thing, conceding 4 goals is another. Almost every Osasuna shot on goal was a goal. I think Barca needs to solve the goalkeeper problem as soon as possible, they can't spend the whole season with Pena. I didn't think they would be looking for Ter Stegen so much. If you don't have a very good goalkeeper your chances of winning the championship are seriously reduced.
The rotation also might have had this result. Normally, Flick would start with Yamal and Raphinha. He couldn't play the game he wanted when he had to play a lot of kids like Victor and Martin at the same time. It's an important loss, but for a team that started 7/7, losing one game is an affordable luxury. They will learn from the mistakes.

Barcelona's impressive start to the season was a very good thing to see but I was always concerned if they will be able to continue to hold on their incredible start but their result at Osasuna tonight in my own opinion is a strong indication that Barcelona is unlikely to remain consistent with their good results. There's every possibility that they'll learn from the result of tonight's game and pick up their pieces and there's also a possibility that this might be a beginning for their downfall.

Barcelona had an incredible start to the 2024/25 La Liga season but their seven-game winning streak ended at El Sadar. Coach Hansi Flick surprised everyone by letting many key players rest and using all young players. There was not even an immediate change at half-time, although Osasuna led Barca 2-0 after the first half. On a day when the defense played poorly, Barcelona's strikers showed a lack of luck and poor ability to convert opportunities into goals. Barcelona let Osasuna continuously score goals. Barcelona have no excuses for their defeat to Osasuna.

The above defeat puts Barcelona at risk of having the gap with second-placed Real Madrid reduced to just 1 point.

Quote from: Docnaster on September 28, 2024, 05:21:19 PM

Pena was poor tonight for Barcelona and I think the club will have to find a better replacement for him since Andre Ter Stegan will be out for a long time.

Yes, Pena played the full 90 minutes but only made one save. The Spanish goalkeeper's expected save percentage was even negative. Because they could not show stability and defensive ability, Pena and his teammates lost 4 goals.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 28, 2024, 05:21:19 PM

Barcelona's impressive start to the season was a very good thing to see but I was always concerned if they will be able to continue to hold on their incredible start but their result at Osasuna tonight in my own opinion is a strong indication that Barcelona is unlikely to remain consistent with their good results. There's every possibility that they'll learn from the result of tonight's game and pick up their pieces and there's also a possibility that this might be a beginning for their downfall. Pena was poor tonight for Barcelona and I think the club will have to find a better replacement for him since Andre Ter Stegan will be out for a long time.

Barcelona lacked team play and lost control of the match after the second goal. The whole of first half, they had only one shot on target, a poor performance no viewer expected of Barcelona. Subsequently, the second half turned out interesting and entertaining, but the defeat today, though unusual, will strengthen Barca to prepare better against bigger teams in their upcoming features. Osasuna on the other flip, planned well for a competent opponent, and came out victorious.

The players really celebrated the astonishing game play, after the match and if they maintain it they could win Barca again.

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Barcelona's results today would have taken so many unaware because just like the teens has been, predictions and judgement on teams are usually based on statistics and in that case Barcelona has been doing so well this season that you would find it difficult to believe they would loose this terrible to this teams who shouldn't be considered one to trouble them, Barcelona were even dominant at the initial part of the game but in the long run they have become almost helpless their opponent had an epic victory over them, it even turns out to be one of a kind Barcelona have suffered since this season, their record has been so brilliant they have smashed all of their games so well they had almost two or more goals in every of their games including this they just lost except for their champions League game. Anyways they are still in a good position on the table and will do better in subsequent games hopefully.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 28, 2024, 04:32:38 PM

I didn't expect such a score from Barcelona. Losing to Osasuna is one thing, conceding 4 goals is another. Almost every Osasuna shot on goal was a goal. I think Barca needs to solve the goalkeeper problem as soon as possible, they can't spend the whole season with Pena. I didn't think they would be looking for Ter Stegen so much. If you don't have a very good goalkeeper your chances of winning the championship are seriously reduced.
The rotation also might have had this result. Normally, Flick would start with Yamal and Raphinha. He couldn't play the game he wanted when he had to play a lot of kids like Victor and Martin at the same time. It's an important loss, but for a team that started 7/7, losing one game is an affordable luxury. They will learn from the mistakes.

Barcelona's impressive start to the season was a very good thing to see but I was always concerned if they will be able to continue to hold on their incredible start but their result at Osasuna tonight in my own opinion is a strong indication that Barcelona is unlikely to remain consistent with their good results. There's every possibility that they'll learn from the result of tonight's game and pick up their pieces and there's also a possibility that this might be a beginning for their downfall. Pena was poor tonight for Barcelona and I think the club will have to find a better replacement for him since Andre Ter Stegan will be out for a long time.

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