La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4405.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on December 02, 2020, 06:44:56 PM

Barca can do that easily and make the point difference very low between them and Atletico Madrid, Barca can keep winning most of their next games,

Hey, do you keep watching Barcelona matches lately?
Look we focus on La Liga, not CL. Do you think Barcelona as good as when Xavi and Iniesta there? No, mate. They cannot do it the same as previously. Now, every match shouldn't be an easy match. They have pressure to get full points (3 points). Unfortunately, many Barcelona players cannot play with good performance consistently this season. This should be not easy for them.

Quote from: Rabi3 on December 02, 2020, 06:44:56 PM

Messi alone can make a difference in every game,

NO. Please wake up! It is not on PlayStation, it is a real football match.
We all know that Messi isn't as good as previously. He needs teammates to score. It is nonsense if you state he can be a single fighter on the field.

Does Barcelona should hope with Iniesta and Xavi always? I think many fans give impossible solution for Barcelona how come old player will be the same performance when have many team make big change for their squad with young player, better for barcelona fans stop think with Xavi and Iniesta they have give change for young and new player to get good position than both legend Barcelona player, I think if De Jong give opportunity will be better than Xavi or Iniesta and give many trophy for Barcelona at the future, but fans have waiting how process with Barcelona recovery from senior player become with young player.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on December 02, 2020, 06:44:56 PM

Barca can do that easily and make the point difference very low between them and Atletico Madrid, Barca can keep winning most of their next games,

Hey, do you keep watching Barcelona matches lately?
Look we focus on La Liga, not CL. Do you think Barcelona as good as when Xavi and Iniesta there? No, mate. They cannot do it the same as previously. Now, every match shouldn't be an easy match. They have pressure to get full points (3 points). Unfortunately, many Barcelona players cannot play with good performance consistently this season. This should be not easy for them.

Quote from: Rabi3 on December 02, 2020, 06:44:56 PM

Messi alone can make a difference in every game,

NO. Please wake up! It is not on PlayStation, it is a real football match.
We all know that Messi isn't as good as previously. He needs teammates to score. It is nonsense if you state he can be a single fighter on the field.

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Finally an easy win for Barca in La Liga - not that often thing this season. Total dominance today. What an amazing goal by Griezmann. And Messi made great tribute to Diego Maradona.
Still despite this win, we are still 9 points behind Atletico, but we are getting closer to Real.

Any result other than a win for Barca would be disastrous but winning with 4 goals will have for sure a positive impact and motivate Barca players.
The big gap between them and ATM is another story and I doubt it will shrink considerably in the next 9 games imo

Barca can do that easily and make the point difference very low between them and Atletico Madrid, Barca can keep winning most of their next games, they have the players to that, Messi alone can make a difference in every game, the winner of la liga is still unknown.

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Quote from: hahay on November 30, 2020, 03:38:16 PM

at least there will be time and opportunity for the other team to win the title.

to be honest, there are still a lot of games left, even though Real Sociedad has 24 points and Atletico madrid has 23 points and Barcelona has 14 points and Real Madrid has 17 points there is no guarantee that Barcelona will not become champions, from what i see barcelona is gradually getting closer to the leader and will even surpass real madrid at the level of points. I am a fan of real madrid, but in the last games I realized that this real madrid will not win the la liga and will not go very far in the champions league... and I am not seeing Real Sociedad and Atletico madrid being champions of la liga

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Atletico Madrid are doing a very good job in the league now. They scored 19 goals and conceded just 2 goals in 9 matches. That is really an awesome statistic for them. Real Sociedad and Villarreal are playing very nice too. But I think Atletico Madrid are the closest team to take the championship.

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Quote from: slaman29 on December 02, 2020, 07:10:14 AM

Guys, it pains me to see us talking about Barca every single day in this thread. I know I'm at fault myself, being a fan, but could we do our best to keep our discussions to a more balanced La Liga prediction topics?

For example, can we all agree that Atletico are a slightly different animal this season and despite their weakness in Champions League, it looks like they could really plan for a strong push in La Liga?

I agree with you but what about other clubs on the top, Real Socieadad, VillarreaL etc?
Personally, I think that the main reason why these clubs are at the top of the Spanish league is a big crisis in Barcelona and Real and not the special quality of these clubs.
As soon as Barcelona and Real solve their internal problems, it will be a completely different story.
The season is still far from over.

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Odegaard impressed me very much yesterday in Real's game.
Even Real lost he played very well and he had some great moves on the pitch. The way that he creates free space and the fact that he passes the ball instantly in the first touch shows me that he is going to have a bright future. He is going to be the next generation of players along with Haaland. I hope Real is going to recover and get back to wins soon....

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When you want to talk about Athletico Madrid and you want to close the topic on Barcelona, you are making it very difficult.

Look at what Suarez is achieving in A.Madrid this season, dude has been a great goal scoring machine which helped them a lot, they are not at their current place all thanks to him, but you have to accept that he played a big role in changing their whole system to something much more fluid in offense, maybe his knowledge he brought from Barcelona or maybe just purely talent, but their offense just feels a lot easier to score this season all thanks to him. Which Barcelona lacks a lot this year, losing Suarez was one of the worst mistakes they could have done, specially without replacing him with someone at equal quality neither.

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Quote from: slaman29 on December 02, 2020, 07:10:14 AM

Guys, it pains me to see us talking about Barca every single day in this thread. I know I'm at fault myself, being a fan, but could we do our best to keep our discussions to a more balanced La Liga prediction topics?

For example, can we all agree that Atletico are a slightly different animal this season and despite their weakness in Champions League, it looks like they could really plan for a strong push in La Liga?

It is natural that there will be more discussion about the team which has more fans and followers. Everyone will want to praise the team which they like. And critics will want to point out the faults of that team which team they don't like. If you start talking about any small team or less famous team then maybe many more will be interested. So, mate, you can start a discussion about any less famous team, many will be at the forefront of the discussion with you.

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Guys, it pains me to see us talking about Barca every single day in this thread. I know I'm at fault myself, being a fan, but could we do our best to keep our discussions to a more balanced La Liga prediction topics?

For example, can we all agree that Atletico are a slightly different animal this season and despite their weakness in Champions League, it looks like they could really plan for a strong push in La Liga?

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Quote from: Renampun on December 01, 2020, 10:40:05 AM

Quote from: Cacingkemi on December 01, 2020, 06:22:07 AM

Manchester City can also be placed in that list. A budget to set up an entire league, but winning the champions league is not there yet. While they are each other's favorite year, except this year.
This year, Bayern is the favorite if you ask me. We never have to underestimate Barcelona. They have wonderful squad.

Barca does have a good squad but internal problems are still an obstacle for Barca to shine this season...
btw, Barca is hit by a new problem again, I'm afraid this will further affect Barca's finances https://www.givemesport.com/1623176-barcelona-face-fine-after-lionel-messis-tribute-to-diego-maradona

Internal problems currently still befall Barca, especially when they are rumored to have cut players' salaries by almost 50%, of course it will have a bad enough impact on Barca considering that many players are the target of other clubs. Especially Linoel Messi, the possibility of moving to Manchester City is very open considering that his contract at Barcelona will end this season. Even the rumors that are growing Manchester City are ready to pay Messi with a bigger salary received while at Barcelona.

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Quote from: Cacingkemi on December 01, 2020, 06:22:07 AM

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We never have to underestimate Barcelona. They have wonderful squad.

Agree with this, but most people doubt Barcelona can win anything this season because they have been inconsistent in the league. 7th place in the standing with 14 point from 9 matches makes people doubt that they will reach the top of the final standing. I still believe they can do it perfectly even though at the moment there are many problem they have to face at the club. The club's finance are in trouble, and that can lead to instability within the team.

Quote from: Renampun on December 01, 2020, 10:40:05 AM

I'm afraid this will further affect Barca's finances https://www.givemesport.com/1623176-barcelona-face-fine-after-lionel-messis-tribute-to-diego-maradona

Maybe not, because the numbers are still not bad.

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Quote from: Cacingkemi on December 01, 2020, 06:22:07 AM

Manchester City can also be placed in that list. A budget to set up an entire league, but winning the champions league is not there yet. While they are each other's favorite year, except this year.
This year, Bayern is the favorite if you ask me. We never have to underestimate Barcelona. They have wonderful squad.

Barca does have a good squad but internal problems are still an obstacle for Barca to shine this season...
btw, Barca is hit by a new problem again, I'm afraid this will further affect Barca's finances https://www.givemesport.com/1623176-barcelona-face-fine-after-lionel-messis-tribute-to-diego-maradona

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Quote from: hd49728 on November 30, 2020, 08:09:38 PM

Quote from: hahay on November 30, 2020, 03:38:16 PM

Real Madrid and Barcelona are the big and richest teams apart from MU, PSG and other big teams. That way, they have no financial problems and their poor performance this season may be due to the pandemic. Any team today has the same problem and if the La Liga title is won by another team, I think it will be interesting because La Liga is not only owned by these two teams, at least there will be time and opportunity for the other team to win the title.

Only Manchester United has solid financial condition but the other big clubs: Real Madrid, Barcelona and PSG have been in financial troubles. They are rich and have huge income each season but you know income can change very fast and the pandemic shows this fact. Barcelona is in troubles and try to force their players to cut salary to minimize salary burden on the club. They and Real Madrid are built up their operations base on debt and anything is built on debt is never solid and sustainable.

PSG is built up from huge budget from their rich owner but it does not give any solid support that the owner won't leave the club. In history, many clubs got troubles and went to bankcruptcy: Leeds United, Deportivo La Coruna, Parma, etc.

I think it is wrong with Manchester United which is a team with good finances, but in fact there are many players who are targeted by Manchester United who cannot be brought in by the coach because the management does not want to make up for the value determined by the player's club, we still remember when Soelkjaer wanted to bring Sancho to Manchester. , however, because the club could not afford the ransom set by Dortmund they failed to bring Sancho to old trafford.

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Manchester City can also be placed in that list. A budget to set up an entire league, but winning the champions league is not there yet. While they are each other's favorite year, except this year.
This year, Bayern is the favorite if you ask me. We never have to underestimate Barcelona. They have wonderful squad.

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I can't believe how badly Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing this season. The Champions League, that is all still possible. The worst thing about Real Madrid's defeat is that it was deserved, even against Alaves.
It could just be that we get a different champion than Barcelona or Real Madrid.

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid have a lot of problems. Real Madrid has problems with the roster. Not all players are ready to play and the load on the rest is very large. As soon as all the players return and get in shape, Real Madrid will begin to show a stable game.

Will be the champion of La Liga in this season not Barcelona or Real Madrid? like happen few years later when Atletico Madrid change dominance champion La Liga from Barcelona and Real Madrid. I think look early to prediction Atletico Madrid as winner for La Liga during have many match, how this transfer window when Real Madrid get many potential player like Mbappe and Barcelona bring Depay and will change dominance for Atletico Madrid or not, still waiting what happen with Barcelona tonight can win or loss like Real Madrid.

New players will not come until the summer of 2021. In winter they will not buy players. Real and Barcelona have no money to buy. One is building a stadium, others are on the verge of bankruptcy. In fact, this season can be considered lost for both Real Madrid and Barcelona. There are chances in the Spanish Cup.

Real Madrid and Barcelona are the big and richest teams apart from MU, PSG and other big teams. That way, they have no financial problems and their poor performance this season may be due to the pandemic. Any team today has the same problem and if the La Liga title is won by another team, I think it will be interesting because La Liga is not only owned by these two teams, at least there will be time and opportunity for the other team to win the title.

Even the richest have problems. Real Madrid has a 500 million euro stadium renovation. Barcelona has 400 million debt and they went to lower the salaries of the players and the staff of the club. How to buy new players in such conditions?

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Quote from: hahay on November 30, 2020, 03:38:16 PM

Real Madrid and Barcelona are the big and richest teams apart from MU, PSG and other big teams. That way, they have no financial problems and their poor performance this season may be due to the pandemic. Any team today has the same problem and if the La Liga title is won by another team, I think it will be interesting because La Liga is not only owned by these two teams, at least there will be time and opportunity for the other team to win the title.

Only Manchester United has solid financial condition but the other big clubs: Real Madrid, Barcelona and PSG have been in financial troubles. They are rich and have huge income each season but you know income can change very fast and the pandemic shows this fact. Barcelona is in troubles and try to force their players to cut salary to minimize salary burden on the club. They and Real Madrid are built up their operations base on debt and anything is built on debt is never solid and sustainable.

PSG is built up from huge budget from their rich owner but it does not give any solid support that the owner won't leave the club. In history, many clubs got troubles and went to bankcruptcy: Leeds United, Deportivo La Coruna, Parma, etc.

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I can't believe how badly Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing this season. The Champions League, that is all still possible. The worst thing about Real Madrid's defeat is that it was deserved, even against Alaves.
It could just be that we get a different champion than Barcelona or Real Madrid.

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid have a lot of problems. Real Madrid has problems with the roster. Not all players are ready to play and the load on the rest is very large. As soon as all the players return and get in shape, Real Madrid will begin to show a stable game.

Will be the champion of La Liga in this season not Barcelona or Real Madrid? like happen few years later when Atletico Madrid change dominance champion La Liga from Barcelona and Real Madrid. I think look early to prediction Atletico Madrid as winner for La Liga during have many match, how this transfer window when Real Madrid get many potential player like Mbappe and Barcelona bring Depay and will change dominance for Atletico Madrid or not, still waiting what happen with Barcelona tonight can win or loss like Real Madrid.

New players will not come until the summer of 2021. In winter they will not buy players. Real and Barcelona have no money to buy. One is building a stadium, others are on the verge of bankruptcy. In fact, this season can be considered lost for both Real Madrid and Barcelona. There are chances in the Spanish Cup.

Real Madrid and Barcelona are the big and richest teams apart from MU, PSG and other big teams. That way, they have no financial problems and their poor performance this season may be due to the pandemic. Any team today has the same problem and if the La Liga title is won by another team, I think it will be interesting because La Liga is not only owned by these two teams, at least there will be time and opportunity for the other team to win the title.

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I can't believe how badly Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing this season. The Champions League, that is all still possible. The worst thing about Real Madrid's defeat is that it was deserved, even against Alaves.
It could just be that we get a different champion than Barcelona or Real Madrid.

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid have a lot of problems. Real Madrid has problems with the roster. Not all players are ready to play and the load on the rest is very large. As soon as all the players return and get in shape, Real Madrid will begin to show a stable game.

Will be the champion of La Liga in this season not Barcelona or Real Madrid? like happen few years later when Atletico Madrid change dominance champion La Liga from Barcelona and Real Madrid. I think look early to prediction Atletico Madrid as winner for La Liga during have many match, how this transfer window when Real Madrid get many potential player like Mbappe and Barcelona bring Depay and will change dominance for Atletico Madrid or not, still waiting what happen with Barcelona tonight can win or loss like Real Madrid.

New players will not come until the summer of 2021. In winter they will not buy players. Real and Barcelona have no money to buy. One is building a stadium, others are on the verge of bankruptcy. In fact, this season can be considered lost for both Real Madrid and Barcelona. There are chances in the Spanish Cup.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 30, 2020, 02:27:50 AM

Barcelona still has a lot of opportunities to continue advancing to a higher stage at UCL, it's just that I still doubt in LaLiga for Barcelona but I'm sure it will be different from at UCL sometimes more aggressive and difficult to beat because Messi is ready in this case we will find out what happens in the future with yesterday's victory can continue there is no more bad that happened before.
I still believe that Koeman will be able to bring Barcelona to the championship at UCL if the game is mastered in his squad.

Barcelona look weak and easy to beat in Laliga, but it is very different with every Champions League game they have played. Even though I'm sure they will still finish in the top 4 at the end of the season but I don't think that's the main objective. The aim is to get the title at the end of the season and I hope they can improve their consistency in every league game until the end of the season.

There are still plenty of opportunities for them to continue to improve in the table, they really need to do something more this season.

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