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Topic: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) - page 562. (Read 1079974 times)

sr. member
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Tick tock, Labcoin.

The deadline for this update was yours.  No excuses.
sr. member
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Involving Sparmann in their project proves that labcoin management *IS* capable of making a good decision at least part of the time. At least it works for me.

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Labcoin The Seven
August 8, 2013 By bcoinnews Leave a Comment
IRC conversation with [7] from FPGAmining
You are TheSeven from Fpgamining correct?
<[7]> yes
i.e.(Labcoin) they are actually developing something?
<[7]> I can’t really comment on that because I wasn’t involved in the development of them besides giving them some general hints what can be optimized etc.
<[7]> i’m mostly involved with the second generation chips
65nm chips?
<[7]> yes, they are actually developing something, definitely. I just can’t comment on how successful it will be
Thank you. I will ask your permission to post this up.
<[7]> yes, from what i know that second generation will be 65nm, although we could technically still switch to something else at this stage
ok, Thank you for your time.

http://bcoinnews.com/2013/08/08/labcoin-the-seven/

Great finding.

I had the same idea and wrote TheSeven yesterday here on btctalk, but I didn't receive an answer. Sad

(which does not mean much - last time only more than a week ago)

Thanks, it took some clicking around. I've always found it a bit odd that LC's 180 130nm project is timed so closely with their 65nm project. I wonder if perhaps they pulled the plug on 130nm chips or had problems and they're just stalling until their "real" chips arrive in all their 65nm goodness. Guess we can only wait and see at this point.

Cheers.

Edit: There are few others' whose confirmed involvement would lend as much credibility as TheSeven's. Regardless of how poorly LC has handled this whole affair, I'm convinced it is not a scam.
hero member
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Are You Shpongled?
Limbaugh's manipulation is definitely blatant for those savvy to it, but you have to admit he is amazing at tricking the less informed into panic selling.
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
Manipulate the price even more, I'll just buy more

sr. member
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you mean someone named LIMBAUGH was lying to me? 

I'M SHOCKED

I LOL'd
legendary
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you mean someone named LIMBAUGH was lying to me? 

I'M SHOCKED

Not shocked just ignorant....
legendary
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Sad really, the chance to get out above .003 is dwindling. Way to stab your supporters in the back Labcoin.

As long as Labcoin isn't a total scam they price should go back up as soon as they start verifiably mining.

All they would need to do to fix the share price is start mining on a pool where they can show their hashrate.

I agree, Labcoin could put an end to this downward spiral but they choose not to. I still am holding a stake albeit a much smaller one now.

Limbaugh was caught manipulating price yesterday, don't believe a single thing he says.

Nice work Scherlock. Now find the missing blocks, press releases, and lab photos.
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you mean someone named LIMBAUGH was lying to me? 

I'M SHOCKED
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Sad really, the chance to get out above .003 is dwindling. Way to stab your supporters in the back Labcoin.

As long as Labcoin isn't a total scam they price should go back up as soon as they start verifiably mining.

All they would need to do to fix the share price is start mining on a pool where they can show their hashrate.

I agree, Labcoin could put an end to this downward spiral but they choose not to. I still am holding a stake albeit a much smaller one now.

Limbaugh was caught manipulating price yesterday, don't believe a single thing he says.
legendary
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Sad really, the chance to get out above .003 is dwindling. Way to stab your supporters in the back Labcoin.

As long as Labcoin isn't a total scam they price should go back up as soon as they start verifiably mining.

All they would need to do to fix the share price is start mining on a pool where they can show their hashrate.

I agree, Labcoin could put an end to this downward spiral but they choose not to. I still am holding a stake albeit a much smaller one now.

Limbaugh was caught manipulating price yesterday, don't believe a single thing he says.
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No. You are assuming that mean=median. That is not the case.

The probability number of blocks in 48 hours is poisson distributed with mean 0.92 = 48*3600*2e12/86933018/2^32. Prob(Zero blocks)=0.37

Yeah, already I updated my post Tongue.  It's a 37% probability of finding no blocks at 51h.

Finding blocks is a Poisson process. If the average time per block is 51 hours, then after 51 hours, the probability of finding 1 block is equal to the probability of finding 0: 1 / e, which is approximately 36.8%. The remaining ~26.2% is the probability that more than 1 block is found in 51 hours.

I fixed it already guys!
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Finding a block with 2Th within 48h is pretty optimistic.

2Th/s is 465 Diff1 shares a second.

The difficulty is 86,933,018, so it should take 86933018/465 seconds, or 51 hours to find a block, on average.

The probability of finding zero blocks in 48h is about 40%

How are you calculating that? It should be 50% at 51 hours, but in N 51 hour time periods you should find N blocks (again, on average)

The basic idea is you find one block per D diff one shares, where D = the current difficulty, which right now is 86933018

Finding blocks is a Poisson process. If the average time per block is 51 hours, then after 51 hours, the probability of finding 1 block is equal to the probability of finding 0: 1 / e, which is approximately 36.8%. The remaining ~26.2% is the probability that more than 1 block is found in 51 hours.
sr. member
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Finding a block with 2Th within 48h is pretty optimistic.

2Th/s is 465 Diff1 shares a second.

The difficulty is 86,933,018, so it should take 86933018/465 seconds, or 51 hours to find a block, on average.

The probability of finding zero blocks in 48h is about 40%

How are you calculating that? It should be 50% at 51 hours, but in N 51 hour time periods you should find N blocks (again, on average)

The basic idea is you find one block per D diff one shares, where D = the current difficulty, which right now is 86933018

No. You are assuming that mean=median. That is not the case.

The probability number of blocks in 48 hours is poisson distributed with mean 0.92 = 48*3600*2e12/86933018/2^32. Prob(Zero blocks)=0.37
full member
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Finding a block with 2Th within 48h is pretty optimistic.

2Th/s is 465 Diff1 shares a second.

The difficulty is 86,933,018, so it should take 86933018/465 seconds, or 51 hours to find a block, on average.

The probability of finding zero blocks in 48h is about 40%

Yeah, that should be about right.  If you look at the CDF graph on slush's pool  You can see that the expected probability of finding a block with one 'normalized difficulty' share is (i.e. a diff 86933018 share) is 63%, so the probability of not finding a block after 51 hours would be just 37%.

Of course, things can go really badly.  Right now on Slush's pool there's a block that took 14 hours and was found after 679575861 shares were submitted, or 7.81 times the current diff. That would be the equivalent of 16 days for Labcoin. There's also a 5:44 block with 276257472 shares, or 3.1 times the current difficulty.  The equivalent of 6 days for labcoin.
sr. member
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really... solo mining?

looks like my .004 sale will never be hit  Huh
sr. member
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Finding a block with 2Th within 48h is pretty optimistic.

2Th/s is 465 Diff1 shares a second.

The difficulty is 86,933,018, so it should take 86933018/465 seconds, or 51 hours to find a block, on average.

The probability of finding zero blocks in 48h is about 40%
legendary
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Involving Sparmann in their project proves that labcoin management *IS* capable of making a good decision at least part of the time. At least it works for me.

Quote
Labcoin The Seven
August 8, 2013 By bcoinnews Leave a Comment
IRC conversation with [7] from FPGAmining
You are TheSeven from Fpgamining correct?
<[7]> yes
i.e.(Labcoin) they are actually developing something?
<[7]> I can’t really comment on that because I wasn’t involved in the development of them besides giving them some general hints what can be optimized etc.
<[7]> i’m mostly involved with the second generation chips
65nm chips?
<[7]> yes, they are actually developing something, definitely. I just can’t comment on how successful it will be
Thank you. I will ask your permission to post this up.
<[7]> yes, from what i know that second generation will be 65nm, although we could technically still switch to something else at this stage
ok, Thank you for your time.

http://bcoinnews.com/2013/08/08/labcoin-the-seven/

Great finding.

I had the same idea and wrote TheSeven yesterday here on btctalk, but I didn't receive an answer. Sad

(which does not mean much - last time only more than a week ago)
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Maybe we get better luck. Find one in 1 day.

Just be optimistic and the share price then goes up.

Finding a block with 2Th within 48h is pretty optimistic.

2Th/s is 465 Diff1 shares a second.

The difficulty is 86,933,018, so it should take 86933018/465 seconds, or 51 hours to find a block, on average.
sr. member
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lol I can't believe people still buying this. Solo mine with 2TH, why? because mining on a pool would leave them with no excuse to not publicly display their non-existent hashing stats.

oh and, of course, zero block found so far solo mining with their non-existent hashing hardware. LOL

+1
full member
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Finding a block with 2Th within 48h is pretty optimistic.

2Th/s is 465 Diff1 shares a second.

The difficulty is 86,933,018, so it should take 86933018/465 seconds, or 51 hours to find a block, on average.
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